I don't think this discussion will go anywhere with you since you have a monetary interest in defending Energy healing.JohnnyL wrote: ↑April 9th, 2017, 5:34 pmPLEASE, show me you are SANE and CONGRUENT by telling me you also do not use anything or anyone else, other than the priesthood, to heal.AI2.0 wrote: ↑April 9th, 2017, 4:10 pmBut, if they claim to use their faith to heal, then why are they charging $25.00 for a half hour session over the phone? They cannot or should not be claiming to use their 'faith' to heal when they are charging money for it. I think all believers understand that this WOULD be considered evil and improper use of one's faith.Juliet wrote: ↑April 8th, 2017, 4:36 am We are asked to use our faith to heal people in the temple, specifically our faith, not the priesthood. The priesthood gives us the authorization to act in God's behalf. Anyone can heal by faith, and if miracles don't happen by faith, then we are a wicked and unbelieving generation. If we look at someone who uses faith to heal, and call them evil, then we are very naive as to what real evil is actually out there.
Out of the plethora of people doing it, can you point out those who claim "to use their faith to heal?"
$25 is cheap! Someone's getting a deal...
When we are asked to use our combined faith in the temple, we don't charge money to do so. There's no comparison between an Energy healing session with an Energy Coach and exercising faith through our prayers for others.
So if there's no comparison, why do you keep comparing?
Faith is one of the Gifts of God. We pray for miracles but we don't always recognize them. If a person is not healed, it is not simply because they lack faith or are wicked. Sometimes it is God's will that a person not be healed, at that time, or in the way we desire. If we are in tune with the spirit and submissive to God's will, hopefully we can come to understand God's will and timing.
True. And?
Priesthood is the authority to act in God's name.
True. And?
Priesthood holders are charged to give blessings and act in God's name in calling down powers from heaven, through faith. And of course, they do not charge money for their service.
True. And?
And as for those rare energy healers who do it for free...
It becomes a matter of who you put your trust in;
If I'm a believing, active member of the LDS church and I have access to Priesthood blessings, why would I not choose that and instead go to an Energy healer? It seems like an odd choice for LDS to reject Priesthood blessings in favor of the claims of a new Age belief system...
Go ahead and say: "I have access to the priesthood--why would I go to a doctor, psychologist, dentist, or any other healer?" If you can't repeat that sentence and mean it anymore than "I have access to Priesthood blessings, why would I not choose that and instead go to an Energy healer?", then this shows incredible lack of understanding, lack of a sound mind, or hypocrisy.
And I'm missing why EH means one "rejects Priesthood blessings in favor of the claims of a new Age belief system"--can you show it? Why do you believe the two are mutually exclusive?
How about a Chinese belief system? Indian? hundreds of other indigenous "belief systems"? Are you against new knowledge and wisdom? Oh, as long as it is Western and "scientific", it's ok, right? Talk about racism!!!
When this is discussed you defenders always try to make it an either/or choice. You insist that if we won't allow for payment in faithhealing, we can't allow for payment in medical healing. If we want a priesthood blessing then we CAN'T have regular medical treatment. But, since when did LDS become Christian Scientists? We've never believed or encouraged that. And, it isn't an either or choice. You know very well that most LDS use regular doctors AND prayer, fasting and priesthood blessings combined.
You want Energy healing to be considered as simply another form of medicine, but it's not.
I'm not sure you even know the origins of 'energy healing' which you promote. If you did, you might be more aware of why I call it a new age belief system.
Let's be honest. Do you really think you can be objective about this?
You remind me of the angry silversmiths when Paul's preaching of the gospel hurt their business selling pagan idols. (Acts 19:24-28)
"..sirs, he know that by this craft we have our wealth."
"So that not only this our craft is in danger to be set at nought;."
As a member of the church, you should have known better, you should not have gotten involved in Energy Healing and now, you stridently defend your 'craft' because it is your profession and it brings in income for you.