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What does that look like. Fruit of worth, when at its best-- is to be had at peak ripeness --savor and flavor / joyus and most satisfying taste, yes?

Matthew 3:

¶ But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:



. What can we learn from these expressions in our day and time?. What are the fruits we can bring forth through faith in Christ by applying his atoning blood in our lives? Are we sometimes like the pharasies and scribes ? Head knowledge and assiduous tradition following can cause us to tragically miss the mark, yes?

Fruits meet for repentance in our lives what they look like and how we receive them = so much / everything! Who is game for discussion? Please share. :)
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Matthew 3:7-10
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
The lesson I'm being taught right now over and over again is to keep my focus on myself rather than looking at others failings. If I focus on what other people are doing that I think is wrong, I feel frustrated, angry, sometimes hateful and revengeful. Instead, I focus on myself and on the undesirable emotions within me and seek to apply the atonement to them. Instead of focusing on what other people are doing wrong, I focus on my own faults with an eye of faith toward the Lord, trusting that he can help me clear out those undesirable emotions within myself. As a result, I feel hopeful, happy, optimistic, peaceful, joyful, and so forth because I see all my difficulties being relieved one by one. I would consider this to be fruit of repentance.

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Fruit meet for repentance includes a broken heart, a contrite spirit, and a willingness to confess sins. I once served in a presidency with someone I respected, and I respected him a whole lot more when he taught a lesson on his struggle with pornography and how he overcame that sin and gained forgiveness. When we try to hide our sins, talk positively about them, or don't think that we need to do anything more than ask for forgiveness in a prayer then we aren't really showing sincere repentance and we won't be forgiven.

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Meili wrote: March 25th, 2017, 12:52 pm Matthew 3:7-10
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
The lesson I'm being taught right now over and over again is to keep my focus on myself rather than looking at others failings. If I focus on what other people are doing that I think is wrong, I feel frustrated, angry, sometimes hateful and revengeful. Instead, I focus on myself and on the undesirable emotions within me and seek to apply the atonement to them. Instead of focusing on what other people are doing wrong, I focus on my own faults with an eye of faith toward the Lord, trusting that he can help me clear out those undesirable emotions within myself. As a result, I feel hopeful, happy, optimistic, peaceful, joyful, and so forth because I see all my difficulties being relieved one by one. I would consider this to be fruit of repentance.
So beautiful...! thanks for sharing.

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brianj wrote: March 25th, 2017, 12:59 pm Fruit meet for repentance includes a broken heart, a contrite spirit, and a willingness to confess sins. I once served in a presidency with someone I respected, and I respected him a whole lot more when he taught a lesson on his struggle with pornography and how he overcame that sin and gained forgiveness. When we try to hide our sins, talk positively about them, or don't think that we need to do anything more than ask for forgiveness in a prayer then we aren't really showing sincere repentance and we won't be forgiven.

So true. Thanks!

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brianj wrote: March 25th, 2017, 12:59 pm Fruit meet for repentance includes a broken heart, a contrite spirit, and a willingness to confess sins. I once served in a presidency with someone I respected, and I respected him a whole lot more when he taught a lesson on his struggle with pornography and how he overcame that sin and gained forgiveness. When we try to hide our sins, talk positively about them, or don't think that we need to do anything more than ask for forgiveness in a prayer then we aren't really showing sincere repentance and we won't be forgiven.
These expressions from a beautiful disciple of Christ, nails it for me:

"Joseph Smith taught, “The baptism of water, without the baptism of fire and the Holy Ghost attending it, is of no use, they are necessarily and inseparably connected. An individual must be born of water and the spirit in order to get into the kingdom of God.” [1]

In the midst of learning many new things regarding revelation, angels, and the feeling of the Spirit being poured out upon me, I asked the fateful question, “Lord, have I had my Baptism of Fire?” I was sure I knew the answer, but had to ask anyway. I remembered many years ago, at the age of twelve, asking the Lord if Joseph was a prophet and feeling an overwhelming feeling of warmth and love flow over my body. My testimony felt secure, so I knew that experience had to be the moment. To my great surprise, the Lord said, “No, you have not had your Baptism of Fire yet.”

What! How could this be? I was confused; what must I do to receive this Gift?

And ye shall offer for a sacrifice unto me a broken heart and a contrite spirit. And whoso cometh unto me with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, him will I baptize with fire and with the Holy Ghost, even as the Lamanites, because of their faith in me at the time of their conversion, were baptized with fire and with the Holy Ghost, and they knew it not. (3 Ne. 9: 20)

There is something critical about having a broken heart and a contrite spirit if one wishes to qualify for their baptism of fire and to eventually have their Second Comforter experience.[2] What does a broken heart and contrite spirit mean? There are many interpretations, but for me it means this: If your heart is broken, you do not seek your own needs, but that of others, according to the Lord’s will (full submission).[3] If your spirit is contrite, you are in a constant state of repentance, meaning that your heart is turned to God (full repentance). If these two attributes of godliness are within you, you shall be redeemed from the fall, be given the Gift of the Holy Ghost, have your baptism of fire, and be quickly on your way to having your Second Comforter experience.

Jesus Christ was in every way the perfect example for us of how to live our lives. A man without sin, He lived His entire life with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, as evidenced by His complete submission to His Father.[4]

Jesus said to His disciples, “Learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart.”[5] In time, the perfect Lamb willingly laid His life upon the altar according to His Father’s will, and partook of the bitter cup. God is looking for those who will be like Him, to take His name upon themselves, as is the promise in the Sacrament Prayer, that they may always have His Spirit to be with them.[6] This is the covenant[7] He desires to make with us, to give us the promise of the Gift of the Holy Ghost and the Baptism of Fire! If we are willing to submit to all He asks of us, as did He to His Father’s will, we are worthy of the Gift.

The very essence of a broken heart and a contrite spirit is a desire to seek the Lord more than anything else in our life. When our hearts are broken, we understand the full measure of what it means to have charity,[8] which includes loving as Christ would love. By this we do His will in all things and we demonstrate His pure love to others. When we acquire this godly attribute, the Lord can make us greater than ourselves and we can fulfill the commandment: “Ye should be perfect even as I, or your Father who is in Heaven is perfect.”[9]

https://purerevelations.wordpress.com/2 ... m-of-fire/

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Meili wrote: March 25th, 2017, 12:52 pm Matthew 3:7-10
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
The lesson I'm being taught right now over and over again is to keep my focus on myself rather than looking at others failings. If I focus on what other people are doing that I think is wrong, I feel frustrated, angry, sometimes hateful and revengeful. Instead, I focus on myself and on the undesirable emotions within me and seek to apply the atonement to them. Instead of focusing on what other people are doing wrong, I focus on my own faults with an eye of faith toward the Lord, trusting that he can help me clear out those undesirable emotions within myself. As a result, I feel hopeful, happy, optimistic, peaceful, joyful, and so forth because I see all my difficulties being relieved one by one. I would consider this to be fruit of repentance.
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It would appear you are being blessed to be able to follow these most important teachings:
(I was just listening at work to these teachings made me think of you-- keep on keeping on in the strength of Christ. Thank you!)

Matthew 5
43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven


Also:
John 15


1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

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