If and only if God tells us to do it, we ought to do it.
If we give grudgingly then it is counted as if we have given nothing at all because it comes from evil.
-Finrock
If and only if God tells us to do it, we ought to do it.
I believe Jesus Christ has already told us so.
And an angel of the Lord gave to King Benjamin what to instruct his people so that they may receive a new name, including how to retain a remission of their sins. I certainly expect to retain a remission of my sins.Luke 6:30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
I believe everything we have and are is God's property including my earthly body, which came from the dust, which is His. We are all stewards of this earth and all earthly things and I believe we ought not covet our own "property." Martin Harris made this mistake and was chastised by the Lord for it.Mosiah 4:26 And now, for the sake of these things which I have spoken unto you—that is, for the sake of retaining a remission of your sins from day to day, that ye may walk guiltless before God—I would that ye should impart of your substance to the poor, every man according to that which he hath, such as feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick and administering to their relief, both spiritually and temporally, according to their wants.
I believe that too.marc wrote: ↑February 28th, 2017, 3:07 pmI believe Jesus Christ has already told us so.
And an angel of the Lord gave to King Benjamin what to instruct his people so that they may receive a new name, including how to retain a remission of their sins. I certainly expect to retain a remission of my sins.Luke 6:30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
I believe everything we have and are is God's property including my earthly body, which came from the dust, which is His. We are all stewards of this earth and all earthly things and I believe we ought not covet our own "property." Martin Harris made this mistake and was chastised by the Lord for it.Mosiah 4:26 And now, for the sake of these things which I have spoken unto you—that is, for the sake of retaining a remission of your sins from day to day, that ye may walk guiltless before God—I would that ye should impart of your substance to the poor, every man according to that which he hath, such as feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, visiting the sick and administering to their relief, both spiritually and temporally, according to their wants.
The 10 commandments apply today, just not your interpretation of them as far as the rest of us are concerned. This is the Muslim view, not the LDS view. So, I guess if you want to keep that commandment as you've interpreted it, you're going to be pretty uncomfortable.Yod wrote: ↑February 24th, 2017, 10:58 pmGraven images - carved representations, such as statues, whittled birds, and so on.JST Exodus 20
Exod 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
Exod 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them; for I, the Lord, thy God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Exod 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
Likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth - pictures or paintings or movies or TV shows or whatever that visually shows anything that exists.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them - might this get in the way of saluting a flag?
Nor serve them - you shall not do their bidding. If the likeness (moving or still) says "Buy now!" you don't.
Still think the Ten Commandments apply today? Or, are the consequences so uncomfortable that this just cannot be what God meant? No TV shows? No movies? No pictures? No selfies? No paintings? No drawings? No video games? No nudie mags? No pictorial adverts? No visual marketing? No responding to pictorial ads? No statues, no carvings, no visual representations of anything - if what is represented exists?
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Yod, consider these scriptures (from JST):Yod wrote: ↑February 24th, 2017, 10:58 pmGraven images - carved representations, such as statues, whittled birds, and so on.JST Exodus 20
Exod 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth;
Exod 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them; for I, the Lord, thy God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Exod 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
Likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, or in the waters under the earth - pictures or paintings or movies or TV shows or whatever that visually shows anything that exists.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them - might this get in the way of saluting a flag?
Nor serve them - you shall not do their bidding. If the likeness (moving or still) says "Buy now!" you don't.
Still think the Ten Commandments apply today? Or, are the consequences so uncomfortable that this just cannot be what God meant? No TV shows? No movies? No pictures? No selfies? No paintings? No drawings? No video games? No nudie mags? No pictorial adverts? No visual marketing? No responding to pictorial ads? No statues, no carvings, no visual representations of anything - if what is represented exists?
Num 21:9 And Moses made a serpent of brass and put it upon a pole; and it came to pass that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
The serpent would be an example of a likeness of something in "the earth beneath", and the cherubim a likeness of something in "the heaven above". If you are suggesting that the commandment would preclude TV, movies, etc. because they are likenesses, then wouldn't the commandment also preclude brass serpents and cherubim of gold?Exod 25
18 And thou shalt make two cherubim of gold--of beaten work shalt thou make them--in the two ends of the mercy seat.
19 And make one cherub on the one end and the other cherub on the other end; even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubim on the two ends thereof.
20 And the cherubim shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings; and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be.
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