Put Your Shoulder to the Wheel

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Robin Hood
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Re: Put Your Shoulder to the Wheel

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brianj wrote:
gclayjr wrote:Actually my favorite hymn that brings a lump to my throat is not even an LDS hymn..

Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me...

I always wondered why we don't include that one in our hymn books... maybe we would use up too many tissues.
I'm also a fan of Amazing Grace. A friend told me it was once in the hymnal, and I see that claim repeated here, but I've never been able to confirm it.

I also like When The Saints Go Marching In. I would say Amazing Grace is a close second to When The Saints for favorite hymns not in the hymnal.

The people who know me best know that I would be very pleased to have a second line as part of my funeral, which I hope doesn't happen anytime soon. Start with Just a Closer Walk With Thee as is traditional, then on to When The Saints, like at the memorial for Pete Fountain - not that I deserve anything like the sendoff Pete received.
I don't think Amazing Grace was ever in our hymnal.
In fact I read somewhere that at one time it was specifically discouraged as it was thought to teach false doctrine and "easy grace" sectarianism.

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Ezra,
don't like the battle hymn of the republic.

A few things in the song I don't agree with at all.
While I admit that you don't seem to be one of the foaming at the mouth anti Union, people believing that Lincoln was Satan himself here on this board, however, I do believe that you do lean that way. So I would have thought that you would have had more of a problem with the fact that it was a Hymn of the Union Army, and you would have had more of a problem with words like
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free,
While God is marching on.
I do think this is a great song!

Regards,

George Clay

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"I think of his hands pierced and bleeding to pay the debt!
Such Mercy, such love and devotion can I forgot?
No, no, I will praise and adore at the mercy seat,
Until at the glorified throne I kneel at his feet."

Makes me choke up every time.

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I can't ever get through "I Know that my Redeemer Lives".

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Robin Hood wrote:
brianj wrote:
gclayjr wrote:Actually my favorite hymn that brings a lump to my throat is not even an LDS hymn..

Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me...

I always wondered why we don't include that one in our hymn books... maybe we would use up too many tissues.
I'm also a fan of Amazing Grace. A friend told me it was once in the hymnal, and I see that claim repeated here, but I've never been able to confirm it.

I also like When The Saints Go Marching In. I would say Amazing Grace is a close second to When The Saints for favorite hymns not in the hymnal.

The people who know me best know that I would be very pleased to have a second line as part of my funeral, which I hope doesn't happen anytime soon. Start with Just a Closer Walk With Thee as is traditional, then on to When The Saints, like at the memorial for Pete Fountain - not that I deserve anything like the sendoff Pete received.
I don't think Amazing Grace was ever in our hymnal.
In fact I read somewhere that at one time it was specifically discouraged as it was thought to teach false doctrine and "easy grace" sectarianism.
That's what I heard, too, but I don't see anything false about grace in the hymn. Do you?

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butterfly wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
brianj wrote:
gclayjr wrote:Actually my favorite hymn that brings a lump to my throat is not even an LDS hymn..

Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me...

I always wondered why we don't include that one in our hymn books... maybe we would use up too many tissues.
I'm also a fan of Amazing Grace. A friend told me it was once in the hymnal, and I see that claim repeated here, but I've never been able to confirm it.

I also like When The Saints Go Marching In. I would say Amazing Grace is a close second to When The Saints for favorite hymns not in the hymnal.

The people who know me best know that I would be very pleased to have a second line as part of my funeral, which I hope doesn't happen anytime soon. Start with Just a Closer Walk With Thee as is traditional, then on to When The Saints, like at the memorial for Pete Fountain - not that I deserve anything like the sendoff Pete received.
I don't think Amazing Grace was ever in our hymnal.
In fact I read somewhere that at one time it was specifically discouraged as it was thought to teach false doctrine and "easy grace" sectarianism.
That's what I heard, too, but I don't see anything false about grace in the hymn. Do you?

I think that there is at least implied some false doctrine, which is also a doctrine of what I call the easy churches.
The song says I was saved by grace. The idea that grace alone will save you. So think the easy churches.
I think the truth is more than that. That there must be obedience to the commandments, repentance, and a few other things, too.
dc

“It is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do” (2 Nephi 25:23).

The song doesn't say anything about the "after all we can do" part. That's where it's misleading, where it doesn't go far enough.
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eddie
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David13 wrote:
butterfly wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
brianj wrote:
I'm also a fan of Amazing Grace. A friend told me it was once in the hymnal, and I see that claim repeated here, but I've never been able to confirm it.

I also like When The Saints Go Marching In. I would say Amazing Grace is a close second to When The Saints for favorite hymns not in the hymnal.

The people who know me best know that I would be very pleased to have a second line as part of my funeral, which I hope doesn't happen anytime soon. Start with Just a Closer Walk With Thee as is traditional, then on to When The Saints, like at the memorial for Pete Fountain - not that I deserve anything like the sendoff Pete received.
I don't think Amazing Grace was ever in our hymnal.
In fact I read somewhere that at one time it was specifically discouraged as it was thought to teach false doctrine and "easy grace" sectarianism.
That's what I heard, too, but I don't see anything false about grace in the hymn. Do you?

I think that there is at least implied some false doctrine, which is also a doctrine of what I call the easy churches.
The song says I was saved by grace. The idea that grace alone will save you. So think the easy churches.
I think the truth is more than that. That there must be obedience to the commandments, repentance, and a few other things, too.
dc
David, are you not getting my Pm's?

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