There was no other path offered to Adam and Evem they could not sin, feel pain, have children until they partook of the fruit of knowledge and became mortal. The atonement was not required for anything that happened in the garden. It was only required for sin committed after they were cast out. As all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.LoveIsTruth wrote:I proposed nothing of the sort, and in fact said the exact opposite.Spaced_Out wrote:The only other plan was Satan's that is the same as what you are proposing. Those that did not want pain and suffering started the war in heaven over the issue and you are continuing the same war on earth proposing a different plan. I must give you credit for your persistence - but the war over the other plan was lost in the preexistence it is time you conceded defeat and accept the great plan of happiness.
There were infinite opportunities for pain without the fall.
You do not have to have your own transgressions to obtain pain, you get your pain because of the transgressions of others. That was the better path God offered Adam and Eve, and that is precisely what Jesus did.
You are both confused as well as seemingly incapable to understand plain language as it is written.
Go to the OP and read again "No Pain No Game" misunderstanding section.
Not all are perfected being like Jesus and can only experience repentance for others mistakes, it was not the plan, as there was only one worthy enough to do that.
There were no infinite possibilities without the fall they were naked and as little children with bodes that could not feel pain, could not have children, did not comprehend right and wrong, these things only came after the fall.
It is contrary to all teachings, scriptures and knowledge revealed in the Temple and teachings of the prophets etc... There is not one scripture to say that there were possibilities without the fall.