Why does the Church ignore 3 Nephi 12:31-32

[AGStackercaptain of 100]

I am re posting my post from above because it seems as though most people overlooked it.

The answer is right there!

"Elder Oaks:

In ancient times and even under tribal laws in some countries where we now have members, men have power to divorce their wives for any trivial thing. Such unrighteous oppression of women was rejected by the Savior, who declared:

“Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery” (Matthew 19:8–9).

The kind of marriage required for exaltation—eternal in duration and godlike in quality—does not contemplate divorce. In the temples of the Lord, couples are married for all eternity. But some marriages do not progress toward that ideal. Because “of the hardness of [our] hearts,” the Lord does not currently enforce the consequences of the celestial standard. He permits divorced persons to marry again without the stain of immorality specified in the higher law. Unless a divorced member has committed serious transgressions, he or she can become eligible for a temple recommend under the same worthiness standards that apply to other members.

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2 ... e?lang=eng"

[SpeedRacercaptain of 1,000]

Answer to the original question. The church does not ignore it. There are certain things you cannot do if you are ever divorced. The church does allow the members to live according to the light they have. What the take away should be is to seek the Lord in your decision to marry the first time, and trust him when things get difficult.

[John5captain of 100]

Rensai: said: The scriptures are full of policy changes for the church throughout history. Therefore her assertion that they can never change is patently false. I don't see how anyone who's thought about it at all can support her assertion.

I don't recall any policy changes which negate the doctrine of Christ. We are talking about the Sermon on the Mount. Are you saying a policy change negated the doctrine Christ taught?

Did Christ teach the gentiles during His ministry? Why the change later with Peter? Didn't Christ (Jehovah) give the Law of Moses to Moses and the children of Israel? Only to later make a policy change?

Good points. So now are we assuming we have had a policy change to a lesser law because our generation is unable to live the full law revealed by Christ, which puts us in a class with the Israelites when they were in the wilderness. I thought the Church was making progress in these latter days.

[awakecaptain of 100]

I am re posting my post from above because it seems as though most people overlooked it.

The answer is right there!

"Elder Oaks:

In ancient times and even under tribal laws in some countries where we now have members, men have power to divorce their wives for any trivial thing. Such unrighteous oppression of women was rejected by the Savior, who declared:

“Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

“And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery” (Matthew 19:8–9).

The kind of marriage required for exaltation—eternal in duration and godlike in quality—does not contemplate divorce. In the temples of the Lord, couples are married for all eternity. But some marriages do not progress toward that ideal. Because “of the hardness of [our] hearts,” the Lord does not currently enforce the consequences of the celestial standard. He permits divorced persons to marry again without the stain of immorality specified in the higher law. Unless a divorced member has committed serious transgressions, he or she can become eligible for a temple recommend under the same worthiness standards that apply to other members.

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2 ... e?lang=eng"

Even if an apostle has a different opinion it still has no power to change or nullify the laws of Christ for us today. Neither prophets or apostles can teach anything different or contrary to what Christ said, and prophets say that if they do we are not to accept it.

[Legioncaptain of 1,000]

Rensai: said: The scriptures are full of policy changes for the church throughout history. Therefore her assertion that they can never change is patently false. I don't see how anyone who's thought about it at all can support her assertion.

I don't recall any policy changes which negate the doctrine of Christ. We are talking about the Sermon on the Mount. Are you saying a policy change negated the doctrine Christ taught?

Did Christ teach the gentiles during His ministry? Why the change later with Peter? Didn't Christ (Jehovah) give the Law of Moses to Moses and the children of Israel? Only to later make a policy change?

Good points. So now are we assuming we have had a policy change to a lesser law because our generation is unable to live the full law revealed by Christ, which puts us in a class with the Israelites when they were in the wilderness. I thought the Church was making progress in these latter days.

Its a wheat and tares church up until the separation and cleansing...

[awakecaptain of 100]

So now are we assuming we have had a policy change to a lesser law because our generation is unable to live the full law revealed by Christ, which puts us in a class with the Israelites when they were in the wilderness.

I'm sorry, but I don't believe for a second that weak or wicked people in any age of time get 'lesser laws' and a free pass to sin without consequences. The 'consequences' for not being worthy of and living higher laws still will be applied in the eternities, if not on earth.

When Moses' people didn't live worthy to receive Christ's higher laws it was because they were wicked and living in sin and thus they also forfeited their Exaltation. Christ's higher laws are still in effect even if people don't know about them. Just like the law of gravity is still in effect even if we don't know about it.

If people are so wicked they refuse to accept the Celestial laws, then God will let them go to the lower Kingdom governed by the lower laws they were only willing to hear.

We can't be saved by 'ignorance'. If people aren't given the higher laws of Christ it means they are under condemnation by the Lord because of wickedness and are not living worthy to receive the saving laws that lead to Exaltation. Thus they lose that opportunity for all eternity.

[John5captain of 100]

The kind of marriage required for exaltation—eternal in duration and godlike in quality—does not contemplate divorce. In the temples of the Lord, couples are married for all eternity. But some marriages do not progress toward that ideal. Because “of the hardness of [our] hearts,” the Lord does not currently enforce the consequences of the celestial standard. He permits divorced persons to marry again without the stain of immorality specified in the higher law. Unless a divorced member has committed serious transgressions, he or she can become eligible for a temple recommend under the same worthiness standards that apply to other members.



Awake - - The above is taken from your post. Is that part of Elder Oaks' quote or is that your words? If it is taken from something Elder Oaks said, can you point me to where I can see the original source? If that is actually a quote from Elder Oaks, I will accept that as the final answer to my original question.

Thanks

[awakecaptain of 100]

The kind of marriage required for exaltation—eternal in duration and godlike in quality—does not contemplate divorce. In the temples of the Lord, couples are married for all eternity. But some marriages do not progress toward that ideal. Because “of the hardness of [our] hearts,” the Lord does not currently enforce the consequences of the celestial standard. He permits divorced persons to marry again without the stain of immorality specified in the higher law. Unless a divorced member has committed serious transgressions, he or she can become eligible for a temple recommend under the same worthiness standards that apply to other members.



Awake - - The above is taken from your post. Is that part of Elder Oaks' quote or is that your words? If it is taken from something Elder Oaks said, can you point me to where I can see the original source? If that is actually a quote from Elder Oaks, I will accept that as the final answer to my original question.

Thanks

That was part of Elder Oaks talk in Gen. Conf. in April of 06 I believe.

But apostles, let alone prophets, can't teach anything contrary or different than what Christ said. They have no power or authority to change Christ's laws for the Church, even Pres. Joseph Fielding Smith and others taught that.

So that was just Elder Oak's opinion that went contrary to the scriptures and thus we have been told to disregard it as false.