The Gospel Key To Our True Constitution

[lundbaek]

"The Gospel - Key To Our True Constitution" (Formerly The United States Has Two Constitutions) by Jerome Horowitz

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The stated message of the book is to bring to the attention of Latter-day Saints that the Framers' Constitution is based on gospel principles while the Supreme Court's "Constitution" is based on opposite principles, and that because Latter-day Saints are accustomed to recognize and distinguish the two sets of principles they are uniquely qualified to understand and apply our true Constitution.

Since Latter-day Saints are admonished to befriend that law which is the constitutional law of the land, and that more or less than this cometh of evil (Doctrine and Covenants 98:4-7), and have received prophetic warning that the United States Constitution would be in grave danger of being destroyed and that they are to play a key role in saving it from destruction, I think it important that we be able to distinguish between what the Lord and the Founders intended us to understand in the US Constitution and what later interpretations have made of the Constitution.

[freedomforall]

"The Gospel - Key To Our True Constitution" (Formerly The United States Has Two Constitutions) by Jerome Horowitz

http://www.inspiredconstitution.org/jh_gk/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The stated message of the book is to bring to the attention of Latter-day Saints that the Framers' Constitution is based on gospel principles while the Supreme Court's "Constitution" is based on opposite principles, and that because Latter-day Saints are accustomed to recognize and distinguish the two sets of principles they are uniquely qualified to understand and apply our true Constitution.

Since Latter-day Saints are admonished to befriend that law which is the constitutional law of the land, and that more or less than this cometh of evil (Doctrine and Covenants 98:4-7), and have received prophetic warning that the United States Constitution would be in grave danger of being destroyed and that they are to play a key role in saving it from destruction, I think it important that we be able to distinguish between what the Lord and the Founders intended us to understand in the US Constitution and what later interpretations have made of the Constitution.

I've read the whole booklet. It is very informative. Too bad we have to force feed some saints on these issues. I've posted the link to this info several times and have had no replies. This should tell us something. What did Pres, Benson say...asleep, apathy and failure to befriend and uphold?

Excellent post, Lundbaek.

[davedan]

The failure of US Constitutional government rests with the failure of US Churches. US Constitutional government is dependent on self-government. If people cannot self-govern then they cannot maintain constitutional government. US Churches are failing to teach principles of virtue and charity (James 1:27). A demoralized society that has rampant fornication and drug use will produce a poor dependent class. Evil conspiring men (e.g. Saul Alinsky) can then organize the demoralized dependent class into a corrupt voting block. The key to saving constitutional government is for the Church to teach and expect virtue and charity.

In Constitutional government, if harm is perpetuated upon another person (recreational drug distribution) it is the duty of the state to prosecute the perpetrator and protect the victims. If a person harms himself (recreational drug abuse), it is a matter for religion to discipline and rehabilitate.

If you want to save the US Constitution, oppose poverty, oppose fornication and recreational drug abuse that leads to poverty.

[lundbaek]

The LDS Church does an excellent job promoting virtue and charity, and preaching against fornication and recreational drug use, and other vices as well. It appears to me that is not enuf to motivate most Church members to try to save the US Constitution, or even be concerned about it. And the Church's efforts in addressing poverty seem to be about all one can expect without violating the inherent right of control of property.

[freedomforall]

Why? Why is there so much apathy in the church? Why does is seem like getting people to read this material is like pulling teeth from an alligator? Not one person as come forth and declared they just read it and are impressed with what is revealed. Many people are more interested in going to Disneyland, or going to the beach, or watching sports, and a myriad of other pastimes. Yet, what's taking place in the background will take all that away, and they just don't see it. Don't care. Don't want to be bothered. A lot of people are putting themselves in a position of getting caught with their pants down. Socialism is robbing them of freedoms and liberties that once gone, cannot be restored without bloodshed.

Oh, well, where's my blanket? My cozy, soft, warm blanket...that keeps me warm, safe, undisturbed and comfy. All is well, goodnight, everyone.

[freedomforall]

Reading made easy. Perhaps this will encourage someone to read this booklet.

The United States Has Two Constitutions
The New Meaning of Judicial Review
The Amendment Procedure of the Constitution
What Happened to Checks and Balances?
The Doctrine of an Inspired Constitution Identifies the True Constitution
The Doctrine of an Inspired Constitution Provides the Key To Understand and Apply the Framers' Constitution
Why So Many Latter-day Saints Uphold the Supreme Court's Constitution
The Political Correctness of Recognized Experts
The General Responsibilities of Freedom
Special Responsibilities of Latter-day Saints
Summary of Some Principal Areas of Unconstitutional Actions by the Supreme Court
Summary of Some of Principal Types of Unconstitutional Actions by the Supreme Court
Text of Constitution and Amendments with Explanatory Comments. See next link:
Note:
This text of the Constitution and Amendments closely follows the original text, including spelling, sentence structure, punctuation and capitalization that in many cases are different from current usage.
Many explanatory subheads are added to increase understanding. All material enclosed in brackets [ ] is clarifying and explanatory information.
Changes made by Amendments are underlined and the source of each particular change is indicated in italicized and bracketed material at the end of the applicable paragraph. Where a change is by implication, that is mentioned.
Whenever a section has more than one paragraph, all the paragraphs under that section are numbered even though they are not numbered in the original text. Added numbers are enclosed in brackets. As follows:
The Constitution of the Founding Fathers

[freedomforall]

I resurrect this thread for those that desire to be in the know. The OP info leaves no one wondering how the Supreme Court gets away with passing so much crap on their own. Well, when it is understood that there are two Constitutions it becomes clear. And I add, again, something of grave importance.

Special Responsibilities of Latter-day Saints

[marc]

It has always been my belief that the express purpose of establishment of the US Constitution is to enable the Gentiles to redeem Zion unmolested. Freedom of religion is fine and dandy as is free enterprise, but the Lord's work is to redeem us from the Fall. Such work is impossible under tyrannical rule, let alone among greedy and enterprising peoples in a "free country."

D&C 98:6 Therefore, I, the Lord, justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land;

7 And as pertaining to law of man, whatsoever is more or less than this, cometh of evil.

8 I, the Lord God, make you free, therefore ye are free indeed; and the law also maketh you free.

9 Nevertheless, when the wicked rule the people mourn.

10 Wherefore, honest men and wise men should be sought for diligently, and good men and wise men ye should observe to uphold; otherwise whatsoever is less than these cometh of evil.

11 And I give unto you a commandment, that ye shall forsake all evil and cleave unto all good, that ye shall live by every word which proceedeth forth out of the mouth of God.

12 For he will give unto the faithful line upon line, precept upon precept; and I will try you and prove you herewith.

13 And whoso layeth down his life in my cause, for my name’s sake, shall find it again, even life eternal.

14 Therefore, be not afraid of your enemies, for I have decreed in my heart, saith the Lord, that I will prove you in all things, whether you will abide in my covenant, even unto death, that you may be found worthy.

15 For if ye will not abide in my covenant ye are not worthy of me.

16 Therefore, renounce war and proclaim peace, and seek diligently to turn the hearts of the children to their fathers, and the hearts of the fathers to the children;

17 And again, the hearts of the Jews unto the prophets, and the prophets unto the Jews; lest I come and smite the whole earth with a curse, and all flesh be consumed before me.

18 Let not your hearts be troubled; for in my Father’s house are many mansions, and I have prepared a place for you; and where my Father and I am, there ye shall be also.

19 Behold, I, the Lord, am not well pleased with many who are in the church at Kirtland;

20 For they do not forsake their sins, and their wicked ways, the pride of their hearts, and their covetousness, and all their detestable things, and observe the words of wisdom and eternal life which I have given unto them...

[Separatist]

en·ter·pris·ing
ˈen(t)ərˌprīziNG/
adjective
adjective: enterprising

having or showing initiative and resourcefulness.

Is this really naughty?

[marc]

Sep, you're probably addressing me. I love you, brother, LOL! I did use the phrase "greedy and enterprising." I didn't use the word enterprising alone. ;)

[isaacs2066]

It has always been my belief that the express purpose of establishment of the US Constitution is to enable the Gentiles to redeem Zion unmolested. Freedom of religion is fine and dandy as is free enterprise, but the Lord's work is to redeem us from the Fall. Such work is impossible under tyrannical rule, let alone among greedy and enterprising peoples in a "free country."

D&C 98:6 Therefore, I, the Lord, justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land;

7 And as pertaining to law of man, whatsoever is more or less than this, cometh of evil.

8 I, the Lord God, make you free, therefore ye are free indeed; and the law also maketh you free.

9 Nevertheless, when the wicked rule the people mourn.

10 Wherefore, honest men and wise men should be sought for diligently, and good men and wise men ye should observe to uphold; otherwise whatsoever is less than these cometh of evil.

11 And I give unto you a commandment, that ye shall forsake all evil and cleave unto all good, that ye shall live by every word which proceedeth forth out of the mouth of God.

12 For he will give unto the faithful line upon line, precept upon precept; and I will try you and prove you herewith.

13 And whoso layeth down his life in my cause, for my name’s sake, shall find it again, even life eternal.

14 Therefore, be not afraid of your enemies, for I have decreed in my heart, saith the Lord, that I will prove you in all things, whether you will abide in my covenant, even unto death, that you may be found worthy.

15 For if ye will not abide in my covenant ye are not worthy of me.

16 Therefore, renounce war and proclaim peace, and seek diligently to turn the hearts of the children to their fathers, and the hearts of the fathers to the children;

17 And again, the hearts of the Jews unto the prophets, and the prophets unto the Jews; lest I come and smite the whole earth with a curse, and all flesh be consumed before me.

18 Let not your hearts be troubled; for in my Father’s house are many mansions, and I have prepared a place for you; and where my Father and I am, there ye shall be also.

19 Behold, I, the Lord, am not well pleased with many who are in the church at Kirtland;

20 For they do not forsake their sins, and their wicked ways, the pride of their hearts, and their covetousness, and all their detestable things, and observe the words of wisdom and eternal life which I have given unto them...

I always assumed that the purpose of the constitution was to lay down the basic structure of God's political kingdom in the last days.

Interestingly Israelite government pre monarchism was amazingly similar to ours in structure.

[lundbaek]

I had the opportunity to talk and communicate by email with the author of "The Gospel Key To Our True Constitution", Jerome Horowitz. On one occasion before he passed away in August 2012 he wrote me:

"I believe Brother Benson and D&C 98 both refer to the original Constitution written under inspiration by the Framers. When D&C 98 was received in 1833 there was still a strong attachment to the original Constitution. In contrast I think what is today widely thought as constitutional law is largely the philosophy of men mingled with out of context fragments of the Constitution.

"Confirming our telephone conversation I think the Church is cautious about openly participating in freedom promotion activities partly because of concern about government retribution that might unduly hinder its primary religious mission and partly because so many members haved been indoctrinated to favor federal dominance and federal welfare and regulation that there is concern that a strong constitutional position might split the Church."

Jerome Horowitz also had authored the book "The Elders of Israel and the Constitution", which was recommnded along with 3 other books by Ezra Taft Benson in the April 1972 General Conference. During his younger years he spoke an many firesides and other events about the US Constitution and its significance to Latter-day Saints. Even shortly before he died he bore his testimony of its importance in a fast and testimony meeting in his ward in SLC.

[isaacs2066]

I agree about the current interpretation of the constitution,

Have you read Isaiah 19:20?

I believe that it mentions how the lord will save our constitution.

[lundbaek]

Some latter-day prophets have spoken about this and it seems from what they told us that it will not be the Church that saves the US Constitution, but "the elders of Israel", which I take to include members of the LDS Church, but not to the exclusion of non-LDS people. For whatever reason I seem to be noting that more and more people are not only awakening to our "awful situation", but also to the need to get back to constitutional principles, even as the Constitution was originally established.

[isaacs2066]

Well, a lot is going to have to go away for that to happen.

For instance technically you cannot be born a citizen in a us territory, you can't the way the amendments are worded. The amendments only cover those who are born in a State which obviously territories and D.C. are not.

Furthermore, the federal government cannot make anyone a citizen of anything. The constitution reserves the power of naturalization with the states, although the federal gov. sets the rules for who can be naturalized.

It was set up that way because there are only citizens of the separate states, constitutionally speaking there is no such thing as a Citizen of the United States.

That term was included to provided the citizens of each state with protections in the other states, so that each state had to treat citizens of the other states exactly like their own citizens at least legally.

The problems just go on and on. It is almost like people do not understand that a State in legal definition is what we usually call countries.

I think that is the root of the problem, people think the states are below the federal gov. when in actuality the states are sovereign in the same way France or the UK are.

The only restrictions on them are the provisions of the constitution that they agreed to accept and certain treaties made by the senate which itself was designed to be controlled by the states.

Originally the U.S.A. was more like a really well organized E.U. except not founded by communists...

[Oursacredheritage]

Just read this and found it amazing! I'm able to see the picture more clearly now. Highly recommend! Thanks for putting this on here

[lundbaek]

In one of my above posts I wrote that some latter-day prophets have told us that it will not be the Church that saves the US Constitution, but "the elders of Israel", which I understand to include members of the LDS Church, but not to the exclusion of non-LDS people. I expect no further encouragement from the Church to learn, uphold, and abide by the principles of the US Constitution, although I do hope that individual Church authorities will continue to occasionally speak about the Constitution as did Elder Dallin Oaks in May 2014 during an interview on KSLNewsRadio in Salt Lake City, when he stated , "I see it as a responsibility for well-educated citizens, members of the bar and opinion leaders to be acquainted with the United States Constitution and its guarantees." Preparing oneself to participate in restoring the Constitution will for most LDS as well as other people be a challenging task. Most members are so deeply involved with work, church callings, their own personal problems and problems of their families that they have little time or energy to devote to study of the Constitution and defending freedom.

I believe that when President Benson told us during the October 1987 General Conference that "We must learn the principles of the Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers" that he meant what Jerome Horowitz called the "Framers Constitution - the written Constitution that was ratified by the people", and I believe that would also include those amendments which support/promote our God-given and unalienable rights instead of destroying them as some amendments have done.

Brother Horowitz wrote in Chapter 5 that "Latter-day Saints are strongly admonished to preserve freedom by opposing secret combinations. In fact, in Ether 8:23 and 24 readers are commanded to awake to a sense of their awful situation because of a dreadful secret combination that will be among them. They are told that if they don't prevent murderous secret combinations from getting above them, the sword of justice of the Eternal God will fall upon them to their overthrow and destruction.....That goal is to stop focusing mainly on defending against the continuing destruction of the Framers' Constitution and to start aggressively taking the offensive to move the country back toward the goal of restoration of the Framers' Constitution and the freedom and prosperity system that are part of such restoration."

[freedomforall]

This cop knows the Constitution and is kind about it to open carriers:

This cop is a non Constitutionalist and his pals also as acutely expressed by them.

Sorry for bad language, for the point here is to prove that some people hate the Constitution.

[freedomforall]

Seim CONVICTED for Upholding the Constitution!

Some cops are great!

While some cops are just plain stupid.