Denver Snuffer's appearance at the Confetti Bookstore

[Glenncaptain of 100]

Since the other thread is locked down I thought I should post this update...

I called Confetti Bookstore and was told I could not attend the special appearance by Denver Snuffer hosted by the Confetti Bookstore in SF unless I bought his book from them. It took a little back and forth before I was finally told that purchasing his book (from them only) is the the price of admission. I explained I had already bought the book, and would be willing to pay a reduced ticket price...Again I was told unless I buy the book directly from them again I will not be admitted....Since I already spent good money purchasing this book from amazon It seems I will not be attending.

I should add that I actually have a favorable opinion of Denver Snuffer's latest book thus far; I am very disappointed that I have been effectively denied the opportunity to hear him speak in person.

[seer stonecaptain of 100]

I haven't bought his book yet.

Do you know the date and time the infamous Brother Snuffer's majestic appearence to Spanish Fork will be?

[LikeMember]

I haven't bought his book yet.

Do you know the date and time the infamous Brother Snuffer's majestic appearence to Spanish Fork will be?

Here you go:

http://www.confettiantiques.com/news/de ... 14th-2011/

Denver Snuffer Lecture – Oct 14th 2011
By Donnie - Last updated: Friday, September 9, 2011 - Leave a Comment
Print Denver Snuffer Lecture

When: Friday Oct 14th – 6:30 pm to 8:30 pm

Where: 390 North Main, Rear of Building, Spanish Fork, UT

Presented by: Confetti Antiques & Books, 273 North Main St, Spanish Fork, UT 84660, 801-798-0137

Seating is Limited

You Must get a ticket ahead of time from Confetti

The only way to get a ticket is to purchase Denver Snuffer’s newest Book, Passing the Heavenly Gift, from Confetti Antiques and Books – 801-798-0137

[Markcaptain of 1,000]

Since the other thread is locked down I thought I should post this update...

I called Confetti Bookstore and was told I could not attend the special appearance by Denver Snuffer hosted by the Confetti Bookstore in SF unless I bought his book from them. It took a little back and forth before I was finally told that purchasing his book (from them only) is the the price of admission. I explained I had already bought the book, and would be willing to pay a reduced ticket price...Again I was told unless I buy the book directly from them again I will not be admitted....Since I already spent good money purchasing this book from amazon It seems I will not be attending.

I should add that I actually have a favorable opinion of Denver Snuffer's latest book thus far; I am very disappointed that I have been effectively denied the opportunity to hear him speak in person.

I'll fly in so that I can buy the dang book and heckle him from the back row.

[Glenncaptain of 100]

From Like: I can understand your frustration, if that makes you feel validated.

Confetti Bookstore is a business, the price of admission is a business decision, not a personal denial of you Glenn.

What would really be validating is some sort of a reasonable compromise; like a reduced admission cost to cover their profit margin. I was told they had to rent out a place and cover their overhead for the event; I understand that to to point. In the final analysis I just didn't appreciate the attitude or tone from the gentleman I spoke with. Perhaps he had been dealing with "unfriendlies" calling in prior to my inquiry.

As far as buying extra books is concerned, its not the kind of book you hand out as a stocking stuffer. Its a very particular book for a particular person at a particular point in their progression. Oh well...maybe the appearance will be taped....or not.

[LikeMember]

Since the other thread is locked down I thought I should post this update...

I called Confetti Bookstore and was told I could not attend the special appearance by Denver Snuffer hosted by the Confetti Bookstore in SF unless I bought his book from them. It took a little back and forth before I was finally told that purchasing his book (from them only) is the the price of admission. I explained I had already bought the book, and would be willing to pay a reduced ticket price...Again I was told unless I buy the book directly from them again I will not be admitted....Since I already spent good money purchasing this book from amazon It seems I will not be attending.

I should add that I actually have a favorable opinion of Denver Snuffer's latest book thus far; I am very disappointed that I have been effectively denied the opportunity to hear him speak in person.

I'll fly in so that I can buy the dang book and heckle him from the back row.

You never know if there will be "priesthood holders" there that may show you what "laying on of hands" means to them!

A true story, a brother in my ward, his very first time hometeaching as a young man, his father ended up getting in a fist fight with an inactive member's husband, all because he showed them disrespect. People can be crazy!!!!!

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

Since the other thread is locked down I thought I should post this update...

I called Confetti Bookstore and was told I could not attend the special appearance by Denver Snuffer hosted by the Confetti Bookstore in SF unless I bought his book from them. It took a little back and forth before I was finally told that purchasing his book (from them only) is the the price of admission. I explained I had already bought the book, and would be willing to pay a reduced ticket price...Again I was told unless I buy the book directly from them again I will not be admitted....Since I already spent good money purchasing this book from amazon It seems I will not be attending.

I should add that I actually have a favorable opinion of Denver Snuffer's latest book thus far; I am very disappointed that I have been effectively denied the opportunity to hear him speak in person.

I'll fly in so that I can buy the dang book and heckle him from the back row.

Glen, I am going to hear him speak. I will take good notes and get them to you promtly.
I was rather surprised that Denver made an open invitation on his blog, as Confetti was quite adamant with me as well. Maybe he was unaware of their requirements. I finally decided to buy the book, again, for my mother in law for Christmas.
Mark if you fly in I will sit by you in the back row, if you'll have me.

BTW why did the other thread get closed down?

[Raindropcaptain of 100]

Glen, I am going to hear him speak. I will take good notes and get them to you promtly.

...and the rest of us, too?

[LikeMember]

Ticketing

I got an email this morning telling me the following:

 > You need to contact Confetti about tickets (which they are
> requiring). That allows them to keep it organized somewhat.

That allows them to make a lot of money.  According to their Facebook
page "To get tickets you must call us at 801-798-0137 and Order Denver's
latest book Passing the Heavenly Gift ($28.95) via phone," which gets
one 2 tickets.  It might help your blog readers if you post Confetti's
phone number and mention the purchase requirement.

______________________________________
Although I do not make a living selling or writing books, there are those who do. All throughout the book industry there are those who spend their lives making it possible for things to be put into print. They invest time, resources and effort, which in turn makes it possible for them to support their families. I do not begrudge the fact that, for example, Mill Creek Press makes money on what I write, CreatSpace makes money printing the books, Amazon makes money by marketing the books, the Bench family makes money selling them through Benchmark Books, and Confetti makes money by purchasing them, stocking them, and selling them. I do not have copies except on rare occasions. When I get them I do so with the intent to give them away. But it is an expensive proposition to give them away, and therefore the numbers have been reduced from the first book (I gave away 200 copies) to the last book (I gave away 35 copies).

I wish it were possible to show gratitude without raising ire. But here, in this world, those who want to be offended will always be offended; while those who are grateful for the service of others are grateful to help them and show gratitude by their acts as well.

I do not rely upon book revenues to support my family, but the people at Confetti do. Therefore they have determined to charge for admission; though my appearance there is donated and without any fee paid to me. I believe they have rented a space for that evening, and are using what they make from the book sale commission to pay the rent on the space for the evening. But those are details I am unacquainted with and really do not intend to concern myself with. I will be there from 6:30 to 8:30 to talk.

There are two other interesting things happening at the same time. The Sacred Geometry conference was announced on this blog, and I believe has an admission charge. But Benchmark's event with Terryl Givens is free, I believe. I think either of those would be worthwhile and you would be edified by attending either of them. I believe there is going to be a recording of the things I have to say, and I'm anticipating it will be made available. If I can figure out how to accomplish it, I'm hoping to make it a digital recording which gets put on this blog for anyone who cares to listen to it. I cannot guarantee that will happen, however, because I've never attempted to do such a thing and am therefore not confident I can figure out how to accomplish it. Nevertheless I intend to try.

[kathyncaptain of 1,000]

I hope that some of you who are able to attend will take good notes and share with the rest of us. Thanks in advance.

[gruden2.0captain of 100]

Glenn,

I'll paypal the $25 to you for a book in exchange of a full recording of his talk. I can find someone to give it to.

[Glenncaptain of 100]

From Reese: Glen, I am going to hear him speak. I will take good notes and get them to you promtly.
I was rather surprised that Denver made an open invitation on his blog, as Confetti was quite adamant with me as well. Maybe he was unaware of their requirements. I finally decided to buy the book, again, for my mother in law for Christmas.
Mark if you fly in I will sit by you in the back row, if you'll have me.

BTW why did the other thread get closed down?

Thanks Reese; much appreciated....According to the update from Like a book purchase will get you 2 tickets. If you find yourself going alone let me know and I'll join you if you don't mind the company....I'll bring my copy..........Otherwise I look forward to your report.

[Glenncaptain of 100]

From Gruden2.0

Glenn,
I'll paypal the $25 to you for a book in exchange of a full recording of his talk. I can find someone to give it to.

Its okay I know you are probably serious, but Reese, Raindrop and others will be there. BTW, I second Reese in regards to your last post on the other thread (I agree with your comments).

[one4freedomcaptain of 100]

I just ordered my ticket. I'll try to get an audio recording if they let me.

Subsequently... I'll now have 2 books and I only need 1. If there is anyone who is wanting a copy, but can't buy one I'd be happy to donate a copy - just PM me.

[BrianM]

I guess i waited too long... I just called and they said it's 'sold out'... I assume they are basing that on 1 book sold = 2 tickets... I might show up anyways, buy a book, and see if there are extra seats. Or maybe one of you have an extra 'spot' on your ticket?

[one4freedomcaptain of 100]

I guess i waited too long... I just called and they said it's 'sold out'... I assume they are basing that on 1 book sold = 2 tickets... I might show up anyways, buy a book, and see if there are extra seats. Or maybe one of you have an extra 'spot' on your ticket?

I really want my wife to come, but if she can't find a baby sitter you are welcome to come with me. I'll PM you if she can't come.

[Markcaptain of 1,000]

I guess i waited too long... I just called and they said it's 'sold out'... I assume they are basing that on 1 book sold = 2 tickets... I might show up anyways, buy a book, and see if there are extra seats. Or maybe one of you have an extra 'spot' on your ticket?

Sold out? Okay my entrepreneurial mind is kicking into high gear. I may be able to double someones investment by setting up a scalping marketplace in exchange for a small recovery fee of say ten bucks a ticket? I may need to move this event to an outdoor arena say the rodeo grounds in S.F. to accommodate more seating. Everybody living around there are cowboys anyhow so that is the natural place in which to hold this. Maybe I can even get some monster trucks to perform during intermission of the talk. This could be big. Who's in?

[dewajackcaptain of 100]

I have tickets for 2 to attend Snuffer's talk tomorrow night. I'm not going to go, so I would be willing to give someone on this forum my tickets if they'd like. (Reese, please take copious notes and pm them to me ). I live in Salt Lake county. If someone is willing to come to my work tomorrow by 3:00 pm, I can give you the ticket (I assume they won't accept a scanned copy). I just moved up here from Utah County and bought the book at Confetti. I was planning to attend, but my wife and I are celebrating our anniversary tomorrow on a Friday and I want to have a blast and don't want to spend so much time driving and sitting at a lecture. Please pm me if you're interested and I'll take the first one I receive.

[gruden2.0captain of 100]

Anyone planning to record it...?

[BrianM]

Anyone planning to record it...?

See: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19611

[Raindropcaptain of 100]

I know you are probably serious, but Reese, Raindrop and others will be there. BTW, I second Reese in regards to your last post on the other thread (I agree with your comments).

Sorry I was unclear... I am not planning on attending, although I am very interesting in what he has to say.

[dewajackcaptain of 100]

The ticket that I offered has been taken. I just thought I'd let everyone know. Enjoy the lecture.

[Markcaptain of 1,000]

The ticket that I offered has been taken. I just thought I'd let everyone know. Enjoy the lecture.

I thought you had 2 tickets Bro.? Are you going to send your wife off on her own for the anniversary and meet your girlfriend at the lecture??

[zion or bustcaptain of 100]

From Denver's blog this afternoon:

Thursday, October 13, 2011Talk Write Up
There's some silliness going on about the talk I will give at Confetti Books tomorrow. I promise I will write up the talk and put it on this blog. When I do, there will be citations, and probably more information than will be covered in a spontaneous discussion tomorrow. It'll be no doubt better organized than will the talk. I never write a talk in advance, I just give it. But I've also written up talks after they were given, and have made them available to anyone interested.

I want to make clear a couple of things: First, I assure you I'm absolutely unimportant and not worth your notice. There are ideas, doctrine and history which are important, but for the most part you can find them in the scriptures and in Joseph Smith's writings. You don't need me for that. So if you're really interested in the truth, you would probably be better off spending the time with your scriptures and Joseph's writings than listening to me. They are original, I am merely derivitive. Second, the ideas are the only things which are important, and you don't need me for them. They come to anyone through the Spirit. So if you'll do as Moroni tells you and ask God, you can "know the truth of all things" from Him, directly. (Moroni 10: 4-5.) I am utterly unimportant, irrelevant, and without any merit whatsoever. The doctrine is what matters. You can get that from God.

As the last book also made clear, the only ones who have any right to manage the church are those who are sustained by common consent and therefore hold office in the church. You should listen to those you've sustained and give heed to their counsel because that's the system established by revelation and which is still in operation today. I am absolutely not someone who has any authority over anyone, but am, like you, subject to their rule in the church. Therefore, although I can offer some views from the scriptures, they are my views and set out my understanding and you are free to accept or reject them. But if you decide to accept them I would remind you that you need to have the Spirit or revelation confirm something before you decide I've said anything worth even considering.

No one needs to travel, interrupt their evening, or go to any inconvenience to be there tomorrow. Everything will be put up here in writing, and I'll personally make a digital recording and make it available. For that I haven't figured out if I can do it through this blog, or if my wife is going to have to send email attachments to anyone interested. But I promise I'll make it available. Along with a written version. And the written version will be better. So you don't need to be there.

Finally, I don't want any videos taken. I'm not worth notice and don't want to be noticed. Photographs and videos tend to distract from what is important (doctrine) and refocus attention to someone who does not matter. You have church authorities who are known, whose images are available for you to notice and recognize, and I'm not one of them. I don't want your attention. If an idea helps you, that's a good thing. But as for me, I'm irrelevant.

[one4freedomcaptain of 100]

I have room for 4-5 more in my car tonight if anyone wants a ride from SL County (had both knees scoped last week so the SUV is way more comfortable). Help me justify my gas consumption.

PM me, or call me @ eight zero one - six six four - nine one eight eight.

I'm planning on heading out from my house in Sandy @ about 5:30ish, hopefully a little before.

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

So all freedom-forumers should meet in the back...right hand corner so we can say Hi to each other.

[BrianM]

So all freedom-forumers should meet in the back...right hand corner so we can say Hi to each other.

and then join us for the after party at a local restaurant.

[BrianM]

Not the best recording but decent. Missed recording the first 10 minutes. I think a better recording might eventually be made available but enjoy...

http://www.latterdayconservative.com/audio/Denver_Snuffer-Elijah-10-14-2011.mp3 (you might need to right-click and save as to download to your computer)

[Sarielcaptain of 100]

Not the best recording but decent. Missed recording the first 10 minutes. I think a better recording might eventually be made available but enjoy...

http://www.latterdayconservative.com/audio/Denver_Snuffer-Elijah-10-14-2011.mp3 (you might need to right-click and save as to download to your computer)

Thank you.

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

So all freedom-forumers should meet in the back...right hand corner so we can say Hi to each other.

Reese it was really good to meet you - as brief as it was, hope we have a chance to sit and chat sometime in the future!

Sorry we took off right afterwards. We had to meet a guy up in Provo. It was nice to meet you as well, to have a face to put to your name. I think we should do a forum get together....lunch or dinner sometime.


I did not take a single note last night. But only because he was recording it and promised to put the entire talk up on his blog in a few days. I figured that would be much better for everyone interested than some scattered notes.