zionbuilder wrote: ↑August 5th, 2017, 3:06 pm Then you deny the need for modern revelations. Is this a statement or a question?
How are you going to be resurrected, It's not in the scriptures as to how to do it. Are you certain about this? Are you braced? Here we go!
John 11:43-44
43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
It will be by the power of the Priesthood and strict, intent, personal righteousness needed to accomplish this very act when we are ready to do so. Some priesthood holders have already brought back a spouse after they died using this very power. I know of a first hand experience to this effect.
But then I guess Joseph and Brigham are not prophets, seers and revealators then,
or are they fallen and false prophets. This question is not even close to the real issue here. We are taught that not everything out of the mouth of a prophet is fact, truth, or a new prophesy. It is when they say, thus saith the Lord, they being an instrument in God's hands to bring forth a message directly from God. Show us one place where this new modern day doctrine was issued with such power, exactness and authenticity, enough power, exactness and authenticity as to cause it to become a part of canonized scripture.
Sorry, Modern Revelation trumps scripture anytime. What modern revelation? I thought Joseph Smith was the one we got all our four standard works through. So what modern revelation? And if you think God would teach one prophet one thing and another prophet an opposite or differing concept, please think again. God's word is the same today, yesterday and forever, so says God himself. It is unchanging or he would cease to be God, for he knows all things. It's in the book!
But in this case, they are in harmony, you just won't see it. Do you think I am that ignorant after having read scripture so many times? Come on!
Still denying the true messengers from The Father? This is an ambiguous question and a trick on someone's mind used to trip up someone. True messengers would say in essence "thus saith the Lord" as did several visitors to JS.
"First of all, the question will be posed: ‘How did Brother Brigham compare himself, as a
revelator, with his predecessor?’ There are two quotations that are of interest here. The second
President of the LDS Church said, “I wish to ask every member of this whole community if they
ever heard [me] profess to be a Prophet, Seer, and Revelator as Joseph Smith was. professed
to be an apostle of Jesus Christ.”43
In the second quote Brigham Young says that he “did not
receive [revelations] through the Urim and Thummim as Joseph [Smith] did.”44 Hence, it can be
ascertained that, at least in one sense, Brigham Young did not receive communications from
heaven in the same direct manner that Joseph Smith did. And it is relevant to mention here that
Brigham Young did, in fact, own a seerstone that was once utilized by Joseph Smith."
43. JD, 6:319, President Brigham Young, 7 April 1852, general conference address, Salt
Lake City, Utah, Tabernacle.
44. Salt Lake School of the Prophets Minute Book, 9 June 1873, LDS Church Archives,
Salt Lake City, Utah.
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Show us canonized beliefs other than the four standard works, pleeeaaaase.