How the Church are dealing with the muslim problem?

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Lilburn Boggs was a rascally fellow who issued an Extermination Order against the Saints. Kick them out of the State of Missouri, or kill them. That's the thinking of mobs.

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Mormons and Muslims. A video by the Church.

https://www.mormonchannel.org/listen/se ... nd-muslims

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If Christians, including some here, are disturbed by elements of Islam, what must the believers of some of the world's other main religions think of this:

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Snake-Handling Pentecostal Pastor Dies From Snake Bite
By SPENCER WILKINGLAUREN EFFRON Feb. 17, 2014

he "snake handling" pastor of a small Pentecostal church in Kentucky died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a weekend church service.

Jamie Coots, the pastor of the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro, Ky., was handling a rattlesnake during a service when he was bitten on his right hand Saturday night. But when the ambulance arrived at 8:30 p.m., the EMS team found that Coots had gone home, according to a statement from the Middlesboro Police Department.

Middlesboro Police Chief Jeff Sharpe told ABC News that, according to people at the church, Coots verbally refused treatment at the church. He said Coots was unconscious when he got to his house. When the ambulance crew arrived at Coots' home, his wife Linda Coots signed a form declining medical treatment, police said.

Emergency personnel left about 9:10 p.m. that night. When they returned about an hour later to check on Coots, police said he was dead from a venomous snake bite.

The snake-handling pastor's son Cody Coots said his father had handled the snake that bit him many times before.

"The snake that bit him, we've been carrying him to the church for about four months," Cody Coots told CBS affiliate WYMT in Hazard, Ky. "It's been carried hundreds of times, handled all kinds of times but now when it's your time to go, it's just your time to go."

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Silver wrote: July 11th, 2017, 9:38 pm Mormons and Muslims. A video by the Church.

https://www.mormonchannel.org/listen/se ... nd-muslims
If one of my sons had a choice of dating a Mormon woman who wears a hijab to make a statement and a non-Mormon I would strongly advise his to go for the non-Mormon.

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If Christians, including some here, are disturbed by elements of Islam, what must the believers of some of the world's other main religions think of this:
Since when were snake handlers in any way shape or form an identifiable aspect of Christian beliefs? There are probably more groups of Christian swingers than these people. And yes, there are Christian swinger groups, at least according to a documentary I saw a while back.

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There is no Muslim problem. You have a Gadiantons problem where some, but definitely not all, Muslims are part of it. Governments in numerous nations are corrupt and decaying, helping the core problem.

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The way to deal with the Muslim problem is to tell the truth about it, its falsehoods, and to teach truths that are not found in that culture and religion.

Islam is an Orthodox Religion - meaning it is based on the words of men - not the power of the Holy Ghost.

When the Socratic Method was elevated by Aristotle as the Metaphysical human means for having anything worthwhile, these globalists began to overtake the true system that runs mankind.

Islam was cooked up by ancient globalists, in the Socratic Method way of doing things, upon the Platonic and Aristotelian Model, as an additional means to overtake the true system that actually runs mankind.

The Free Enterprise System, of government of, by and for the people is the antithesis of globalism, and that has it's origin from Northern Europe and the Untied Order way of living given to them by their Lord and God, Odin.

Today, it is the arrival of the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel that have the ability to help us expose Islam and empower the Elders to save the constitution of the people.

But because of the "gross darkness" mentioned in the Doctrine and Covenants we must pass through The Cleansing before we wise up enough to act upon the information found in the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel. One foot in Babylon and one foot in Zion.

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Finrock wrote: July 10th, 2017, 2:01 pm An interesting pattern that we find in the Book of Mormon:

When someone becomes born again or becomes converted to Christ, they always turned their efforts and their hearts to converting their "enemy". Enos is a good example. Immediately after he was forgiven he began to pray for the "Lamanites". Why? After God hears Enos's prayer he tells Enos that what he is praying for is exactly what his fathers had prayed for. Why did being born again result in the Nephites desiring that their "enemy", those who they considered "wicked and evil", who had "skin of darkness", find Christ and be converted?

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Because a Muslim converted isn't a Muslim but turns to be a Christian, Muslins are those follow the abominable doctrine of the Islamism, there are nothing against the arab people, but against he islamism.

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iWriteStuff wrote: July 10th, 2017, 11:36 am
Z2100 wrote: July 10th, 2017, 11:00 am I thought Christ would share some of the same DNA wth the Middle Eastern Peoples. As for Lehi, Him and his family could’ve been Arabs. But since they’re from Jerusalem, many people should see them as Jews. Does the BoM state that they were Jews? Ive read somewhere that there were Arab people in Israel for a few millenniums and there still is, and Lehi and his family could’ve had Arab in their blood.
A few thoughts for your consideration:

1) Ishmael, whose daughters married the sons of Lehi, is clearly an Arab:
"The proverbial ancestor of the Arabs is Ishmael. His is one of the few Old Testament names which is also at home in ancient Arabia... In Lehi's friend Ishmael we surely have a man of the desert. Lehi, faced with the prospect of a long journey in the wilderness, sent back for Ishmael, who promptly followed into the desert with a large party; this means that he must have been hardly less adept at moving than Lehi himself. The interesting thing is that Nephi takes Ishmael (unlike Zoram) completely for granted, never explaining who he is or how he fits into the picture—the act of sending for him seems to be the most natural thing in the world, as does the marriage of his daughters with Lehi's sons. Since it has ever been the custom among the desert people for a man to marry the daughter of his paternal uncle (bint 'ammi), it is hard to avoid the impression that Lehi and Ishmael were related."
- Hugh Nibley, Lehi in the Desert
2) Lehi is descended from Manasseh, who is the son of Joseph (Alma 10:3). Consider the following:
With Lehi we already have a rich mixture of Near Eastern blood. He was of the tribe of Half-Manasseh, which may mean that he was half Aramaic or Arabic to begin with. The family of Ishmael belonging in that same tradition, with a name like that, should almost certainly have been of the desert strain. The Manasseh part was in turn half Egyptian, and the Egyptians from the beginning were a blend of "nomads, cattle raisers, farmers, Africans, Asiatics, Semites, and Hamites." The infiltration of these people began in the earliest times and mounted steadily through the centuries, families of every class enjoying strong infusions of "foreign" blood.
- Hugh Nibley, The Prophetic Book of Mormon
Here's where it gets interesting:

3) Joseph of Egypt married Asenath, the daughter of a heathen Egyptian Priest:
Asenath, Asenith and Osnat (/ˈæsᵻnæθ/, Hebrew: אָסְנַת, Modern Osnát, Tiberian ʾåsənaṯ) is a figure in the Book of Genesis (41:45, 41:50-52), an Egyptian woman who Pharaoh gave to Joseph, son of Jacob, to be his wife. The daughter of Potipherah, a priest of Heliopolis, she bore Joseph two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim, who became the patriarchs of the Israelite tribes of Manasseh and Ephraim.

Modern scholarship says her name derives from the Egyptian language name "she who belongs to (the goddess) Neith" and that her name may be phonetically transliterated from the New Kingdom-era Egyptian hieroglyphs Ns-Nt.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asenath
4) What race was Asenath? Let's see: the Egyptians claimed the Priesthood through Ham, through whom "sprang that race which preserved the curse in the land" (Abraham 1:21-24).
5) The majority of church members are of the tribe of Ephraim, ie: descendants of Joseph and Asenath, thus descended through "that race which preserved the curse in the land". :-o :-o :-o

Conclusions:
A) The Nephites/Lamanites had their heritage from Arab as well as Israelite and Egyptian ancestors.
B) Joseph mixed his seed with that of the descendants of the Priesthood of Egypt, which had the curse of Ham. The tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh are sprung from those roots. Hence,
C) The majority of us are of the tribe of Ephraim. Ergo, we all got a little "Egyptian" in us.
Laban's slave, Zoram, likely was not an Israelite either.

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Joseph mixed his seed with that of the descendants of the Priesthood of Egypt, which had the curse of Ham.
The Egyptian dynasties were varied. There were some Nubian rulers (African) and some Semites (Hyksos) but we can probably be sure that Joseph married someone of his own ethnic background, or one that looked like his. Recent DNA discoveries show that the ancient Egyptians were European or from areas now associated with ancient Galatia (since renamed Turkey after Islamic conquest and subsequent interbreeding). Here are some mummies of upper elite with well-preserved blonde hair - Ramesses mummy has curly red hair if you look it up:


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Yes, the ancient Egyptians held the priesthood, probably passed down by the Sumerians who could probably trace it back to Noah as these people were probably direct descendants of Noah.

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