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Brief Analysis:
The claims in the reports are utter nonsense. NASA has certainly not confirmed any such event for June, November, or any other month. In fact, the report is just the latest version of a silly hoax that has been published over and over again in various guises since at least 2012. From time to time, another spammy, clickbait website will publish a new version of the hoax in a rather lame effort to attract more visitors.

JohnnyL wrote: ↑July 7th, 2017, 4:05 pm NASA Confirms Earth Will Experience 15 Days Of Darkness In November 2017

http://womansenergy.com/nasa-confirms-e ... mber-2017/

"According to the report, during this specific period Jupiter and Venus will come in close proximity of each other and will be separated by just 1 degree. Venus will move to the south-west of Jupiter and as a result it will shine 10 times brighter than Jupiter. Venus’ bright light will heat up the gases in Jupiter causing a reaction which will release a an absurdly high amount of hydrogen into the space. This reaction will come in contact with our Sun at 2:50 am on November 15th.

Once the hydrogen reaches the Sun, a massive explosion is bound to occur on the surface of the Sun, increasing the temperature to more than 9000 degrees. The whole process will generate so much heat that the Sun will change its color into a bluish shade. Once this happens, the Sun will need a minimum of 14 days to restore its normal color and temperature.

As a result of this strange phenomenon, the Sun’s light will be seen much dimmer from the Earth and hence the 15-day blackout NASA is talking about."

Rensai wrote: ↑July 7th, 2017, 4:36 pm That's just a hoax.

http://www.hoax-slayer.net/nasa-15-days ... x-returns/

Brief Analysis:
The claims in the reports are utter nonsense. NASA has certainly not confirmed any such event for June, November, or any other month. In fact, the report is just the latest version of a silly hoax that has been published over and over again in various guises since at least 2012. From time to time, another spammy, clickbait website will publish a new version of the hoax in a rather lame effort to attract more visitors.

Kay:
All right, Beatrice, there was no alien. The flash of light you saw in the sky was not a UFO. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus.

Jay:
Wait a minute. You just flash that thing, it erases her memory, and you just make up a new one?

Kay:
A standard issue neuralyzer.

Jay:
And that weak-@#$ story's the best you can come up with?

Arenera wrote: ↑July 7th, 2017, 7:39 pm What does Trump say?

alaris wrote: ↑July 7th, 2017, 7:48 pm

Arenera wrote: ↑July 7th, 2017, 7:39 pm What does Trump say?

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JohnnyL wrote: ↑July 7th, 2017, 4:05 pm NASA Confirms Earth Will Experience 15 Days Of Darkness In November 2017

http://womansenergy.com/nasa-confirms-e ... mber-2017/

"According to the report, during this specific period Jupiter and Venus will come in close proximity of each other and will be separated by just 1 degree. Venus will move to the south-west of Jupiter and as a result it will shine 10 times brighter than Jupiter. Venus’ bright light will heat up the gases in Jupiter causing a reaction which will release a an absurdly high amount of hydrogen into the space. This reaction will come in contact with our Sun at 2:50 am on November 15th.

Once the hydrogen reaches the Sun, a massive explosion is bound to occur on the surface of the Sun, increasing the temperature to more than 9000 degrees. The whole process will generate so much heat that the Sun will change its color into a bluish shade. Once this happens, the Sun will need a minimum of 14 days to restore its normal color and temperature.

As a result of this strange phenomenon, the Sun’s light will be seen much dimmer from the Earth and hence the 15-day blackout NASA is talking about."

JohnnyL wrote: ↑July 7th, 2017, 4:05 pm NASA Confirms Earth Will Experience 15 Days Of Darkness In November 2017

http://womansenergy.com/nasa-confirms-e ... mber-2017/

"According to the report, during this specific period Jupiter and Venus will come in close proximity of each other and will be separated by just 1 degree. Venus will move to the south-west of Jupiter and as a result it will shine 10 times brighter than Jupiter. Venus’ bright light will heat up the gases in Jupiter causing a reaction which will release a an absurdly high amount of hydrogen into the space. This reaction will come in contact with our Sun at 2:50 am on November 15th.

Once the hydrogen reaches the Sun, a massive explosion is bound to occur on the surface of the Sun, increasing the temperature to more than 9000 degrees. The whole process will generate so much heat that the Sun will change its color into a bluish shade. Once this happens, the Sun will need a minimum of 14 days to restore its normal color and temperature.

As a result of this strange phenomenon, the Sun’s light will be seen much dimmer from the Earth and hence the 15-day blackout NASA is talking about."

samizdat wrote: ↑July 8th, 2017, 8:50 am Definitely a hoax.

inho wrote: ↑July 8th, 2017, 7:52 am JohnnyL,
When you posted this, were you just trolling or did you really believe that nonsense?

JohnnyL wrote: ↑July 16th, 2017, 5:02 pm

inho wrote: ↑July 8th, 2017, 7:52 am JohnnyL,
When you posted this, were you just trolling or did you really believe that nonsense?

Ahhh... This was such an interesting thread.

Of course not everything I write will apply to everyone.

16 replies about something interesting, yet foolish--which, somehow, reminds me of the majority of posts on this forum. As I read down through the threads, I am baffled--at least 3/4 are forum clickbait or "trolling" or "rubbish" or a thousand threads on Trump or the same topic, "Take 300"; things that make me wonder how many people never finished the Gospel Principles class in Sunday School. And reading much of the discussions on the threads makes me wonder how many people... Well, I'll just say that I don't bother replying to many things anymore. I almost didn't reply to this thread, but... :ymdevil:

On the other hand, there is such a limited consensus about what truth is, that so many other possibilities get tossed aside. 3 Nephi 8 HAD to be a volcano, right? Some people believe that Occam's Razor means what it doesn't--they miss the "here's a good starting point" part and only think they read "since this is simple, it's the answer". I chuckle when people quote Sherlock Holmes: "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Lol. Try this: "Once you eliminate the impossible (i.e. improbable), whatever remains, no matter how improbable (i.e., impossible), must be the truth." It's a logical fallacy, unless you are using a very limited logical chain and deviations.

Which most people don't mind saying here (probably because of the "hoax destroying websites", which as mentioned, are often hoaxy themselves--another fallacy--you know, "who's watching the watchers?"), but not as much on the other incredulous threads/ posts--you know, like where an "I am Jesus" post can cover 10 pages of serious discussion, or such, and such.

Interesting also that something so simple is turned into complex explanations (some people really need to reread Occam's Razor! ;) ).

I also noticed that there was no discussion of 3 Nephi 8, though I found that less interesting.

This was a reminder, however faint, that other possibilities not only can exist, but do exist.

I put this up for discussion. I didn't bear my testimony that I know this thing is true and going to happen like half the "My niece had a dream" threads, lol.

Also noted, this could have been a very interesting discussion on connections and possibilities. It reminds me of an interview I read of a top software coding company hirer who would ask potential employee coders how to do something (sometimes a real-life problem they were working on, or thinking about). If the coder replied, "You can't"--with 101 reasons why not--he wouldn't hire them. Even if it was impossible, he did hire the ones who looked at the question and wondered and saw other potentials or variations; "Impossible" became "I don't see how" and further consideration.
Instead of connections and potentials, this discussion turned into a "A or B" discussion, a "CAN'T" discussion (you're not fired, just not hired!). Better or worse than that--I don't know--it was also where only current MSS was allowed.

Fake news? Probably so. Anymore fake than most other news, or threads, or discussions, etc.? Probably not. Any truth to it? Let me see...

inho, in response to your question: would it matter?

Warrior of Jah: :)) Some good ones, yeah.

alaris wrote: ↑July 16th, 2017, 5:16 pm

JohnnyL wrote: ↑July 16th, 2017, 5:02 pm

inho wrote: ↑July 8th, 2017, 7:52 am JohnnyL,
When you posted this, were you just trolling or did you really believe that nonsense?

Ahhh... This was such an interesting thread.

Of course not everything I write will apply to everyone.

16 replies about something interesting, yet foolish--which, somehow, reminds me of the majority of posts on this forum. As I read down through the threads, I am baffled--at least 3/4 are forum clickbait or "trolling" or "rubbish" or a thousand threads on Trump or the same topic, "Take 300"; things that make me wonder how many people never finished the Gospel Principles class in Sunday School. And reading much of the discussions on the threads makes me wonder how many people... Well, I'll just say that I don't bother replying to many things anymore. I almost didn't reply to this thread, but... :ymdevil:

On the other hand, there is such a limited consensus about what truth is, that so many other possibilities get tossed aside. 3 Nephi 8 HAD to be a volcano, right? Some people believe that Occam's Razor means what it doesn't--they miss the "here's a good starting point" part and only think they read "since this is simple, it's the answer". I chuckle when people quote Sherlock Holmes: "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Lol. Try this: "Once you eliminate the impossible (i.e. improbable), whatever remains, no matter how improbable (i.e., impossible), must be the truth." It's a logical fallacy, unless you are using a very limited logical chain and deviations.

Which most people don't mind saying here (probably because of the "hoax destroying websites", which as mentioned, are often hoaxy themselves--another fallacy--you know, "who's watching the watchers?"), but not as much on the other incredulous threads/ posts--you know, like where an "I am Jesus" post can cover 10 pages of serious discussion, or such, and such.

Interesting also that something so simple is turned into complex explanations (some people really need to reread Occam's Razor! ;) ).

I also noticed that there was no discussion of 3 Nephi 8, though I found that less interesting.

This was a reminder, however faint, that other possibilities not only can exist, but do exist.

I put this up for discussion. I didn't bear my testimony that I know this thing is true and going to happen like half the "My niece had a dream" threads, lol.

Also noted, this could have been a very interesting discussion on connections and possibilities. It reminds me of an interview I read of a top software coding company hirer who would ask potential employee coders how to do something (sometimes a real-life problem they were working on, or thinking about). If the coder replied, "You can't"--with 101 reasons why not--he wouldn't hire them. Even if it was impossible, he did hire the ones who looked at the question and wondered and saw other potentials or variations; "Impossible" became "I don't see how" and further consideration.
Instead of connections and potentials, this discussion turned into a "A or B" discussion, a "CAN'T" discussion (you're not fired, just not hired!). Better or worse than that--I don't know--it was also where only current MSS was allowed.

Fake news? Probably so. Anymore fake than most other news, or threads, or discussions, etc.? Probably not. Any truth to it? Let me see...

inho, in response to your question: would it matter?

Warrior of Jah: :)) Some good ones, yeah.

True or not I appreciated the thread.

JohnnyL wrote: ↑July 16th, 2017, 5:02 pm 3 Nephi 8 HAD to be a volcano, right?

I also noticed that there was no discussion of 3 Nephi 8, though I found that less interesting.

This was a reminder, however faint, that other possibilities not only can exist, but do exist.

DesertWonderer wrote: ↑July 7th, 2017, 6:08 pm It is interesting that the same people that tend to believe these kinds of articles also believe in energy healing.

inho wrote: ↑July 17th, 2017, 1:31 am

JohnnyL wrote: ↑July 16th, 2017, 5:02 pm 3 Nephi 8 HAD to be a volcano, right?

I also noticed that there was no discussion of 3 Nephi 8, though I found that less interesting.

This was a reminder, however faint, that other possibilities not only can exist, but do exist.

Fair enough. However, the scenario in the link you posted was so ridiculous that it isn't really a viable alternative. If you or anyone else has some more worthy ideas of 3Ne8, I would be happy to hear them. I don't think the volcano scenario is able to explain everything either.