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When it comes to Trump-hating, it is worse than conspiracy, it is consensus

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By Don Todd

No candidate in modern times has been on the receiving end of more demonizing than Donald J. Trump. It spews from leftist publications and blogs, publications and blogs on the right and from the so-called main stream media. Second only to the hate directed at Mr. Trump is the demonizing directed to his supporters.

The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, National Review, Weekly Standard, The New Republic, The Nation, The Dailey Kos, The Huffington Post, and Red State all have joined in a huge spitting squad and the spit is all directed at Mr. Trump. As some of us used to say about during the Cold War about the U.S. Government aiding the Soviet Union, “it is worse than conspiracy, it is consensus.”

If you think this is an exaggeration just Google “Trump Stalin.” You will get 772,000 hits comparing Mr. Trump to one of worlds all time mass murders and leader of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Then try, “Trump Hitler.” That will get you 2,710,000 hits comparing Mr. Trump unfavorably with the leader of the National Socialist Workers Party.

What has Mr. Trump done to engender this raw hatred from all points of the establishment’s political spectrum? Makes one wonder is there any real difference between alleged conservative Bill Kristol and Democratic Socialist Bernie Sanders. It is like listening to a chorus of the ruling class. The sopranos sound different than the baritones but in reality they are all singing the same song.

Demonization is the name of the game. When Mr. Trump suggests enforcing existing law at the border we are told he hates Mexicans. When he suggests we have a moratorium on Muslim immigration we are told he hates a billion people. Conclusion: He is a hater just like Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin.

When he calls for a restoration of libel laws destroyed by the New York Times v. Sullivan Supreme Court decision he is calling for the repeal of the First Amendment. When he criticizes Obama he is a racist. If he takes issue with Mrs. Clinton he is a sexist. If he does not agree with Bernie Sanders he is an anti-Semite.

When provocateurs invade his venues with the goal of causing violence and they are successful it is his fault and he is roundly condemned. When these same provocateurs illegally block a public highway to attempt to prevent Mr. Trump from speaking they are exercising their First Amendment rights and he is trying to rob them of such rights.

In the world of the Trump haters black is white, wrong is right and up is down. George Orwell, call your office.

As Scott Adams of Dilbert fame and the Breitbart web site have observed, what the media, right, legacy and left is doing consciously or unconsciously is setting Mr. Trump up for assassination, there has already been one attempted assault on Mr. Trump in Chicago. It will be his fault. “He brought it on himself!” This will be loudly and incessantly repeated. The assassination will be a ratings bonanza for the media which will give them the opportunity to make a lot of money while pushing this message and excusing themselves.

What the threats towards Mr. Trump’s children and his sister show is that this scenario not as far-fetched as it may appear at first glance. Can it be stopped? One can only hope.

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I don't think that Trump is being demonized. People do not see him as a hater comparable to Hitler or Stalin. People just question his intellect.

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Donald Trump Is Unintelligible to liberals because they don't understand common sense.

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I don't hate trump. I really wanted him to be different then the normal politicians. I was really keeping my fingers crossed.

There is no doubt that we have a very polarized public who are very judgmental and won't listen to what they judge to be the evil other side. Both republican and democrats are guilty of it.

I have waited to see what trump would do. Without stars in my eye and without hate either.

He is doing the same things as previous presidents. War. Spending money. Vacations on tax payers dime. Supporting planned parenthood and abortions. More laws less freedoms. More debt. Surrounds himself with the same elitists. Same disregard for the constitution.

Same song and dance,

As much as I would like him to be different. He is not.

He is no friend to the constitution.

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eddie wrote: May 30th, 2017, 1:43 pm Donald Trump Is Unintelligible to liberals because they don't understand common sense.
You should cite your sources.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/com ... _liberals/

If you go there, you find a lot of hate speech which is ironic because eddie's first post in this thread is bemoaning all the hate speech. Once again, folks, comedy writes itself.

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What's really happening?

Trump's popularity all around the world is taking a huge nosedive.

Nobody wants him. Our allies don't want to share their intelligence. Our enemies get their intelligence directly from the man in the White House.

The more I see the man, the more I wonder: How can 35 percent of the population even support the man? I mean, our president's approval rating here in Mexico is in the single digits.

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The way I see it, if people are so against Trump, he must be doing, or about to do something right, as I see most people in this world today as basically, all wrong.
As for what Mexicans think of him, using Mexico as an example of anything, political, social or economic success, I think the best thing to do is whatever the Mexicans DO NOT WANT. As it seems the Mexicans are only able to do things wrong.
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Gadianton was rounding third and heading for home with the game-winning run. Then, to his surprise and frustration, somehow the ball got into the catcher's mitt. Gadianton had to beat it back to third, and now is waiting for someone to hit him home.

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David13 wrote: May 30th, 2017, 2:59 pm The way I see it, if people are so against Trump, he must be doing, or about to do something right, as I see most people in this world today as basically, all wrong.
As for what Mexicans think of him, using Mexico as an example of anything, political, social or economic success, I think the best thing to do is whatever the Mexicans DO NOT WANT. As it seems the Mexicans are only able to do things wrong.
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I understand the sentiment, but this is a very dangerous way to form opinions.

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lundbaek wrote: May 30th, 2017, 3:28 pm Gadianton was rounding third and heading for home with the game-winning run. Then, to his surprise and frustration, somehow the ball got into the catcher's mitt. Gadianton had to beat it back to third, and now is waiting for someone to hit him home.
Trump's administration is full of Gadiantons. The CFR pantry is fully stocked. Got plenty of bankers. All kinds of "kill 'em all" warmongers. So who exactly held Gadianton on third?

Luke 11:
14 ¶ And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered.

15 But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils.

16 And others, tempting him, sought of him a sign from heaven.

17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.

18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub.

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The Reason The Elite Hate Trump So Much: He Is Opposed To The One World Agenda Of The Globalists


Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,

Have you ever wondered why the elite hate Donald Trump so much? There have certainly been many politicians throughout the years that have been disliked, but with Trump there is a hatred that is so intense that it almost seems tangible at times. During the campaign, they went to extraordinary lengths to destroy him, but it didn’t work. And now that he is president, the attacks against him have been absolutely relentless. So why is there so much animosity toward Trump? Is it just because he is not a member of their club?

The truth, of course, is that it runs much deeper than that. Ultimately, the elite hate Trump because he is opposed to their demonic one world agenda. Many among the elite are referred to as “globalists” because their eventual goal is to unite the whole world under a single planetary system. These globalists truly believe that they know better than all the rest of us, and they want to impose their way of doing things on every man, woman and child on the entire planet.

So they get really angry when Donald Trump talks of “building a wall” or establishing a travel ban from certain countries because they eventually want a world without any borders at all.


And they get really angry when Donald Trump says that he wants to pull the United States out of international trade deals, because the elite were using those international trade deals to slowly integrate all nations into a single one world economy.


And they really don’t like when Donald Trump criticizes Islam, because Islam is going to be a key component of the one world religion that they plan to establish.

For quite a while the globalists were on a roll, but recently they have experienced some tremendous setbacks. Britain’s vote to leave the EU and the election of Donald Trump were not supposed to happen, and this has left many globalists searching for answers. In fact, just today I came across a New York Times article entitled “Besieged Globalists Ponder What Went Wrong“…

Until recently, you didn’t hear people being referred to as “globalist” very often. But in a time of rising nationalism, those who see the upside of globalism have become a distinct — and often embattled — tribe.

Last week, the globalists had a big family reunion in New York. The gathering was focused on the United Nations General Assembly, but a growing array of side conferences and summits and dinners also attracted concerned internationalists of every stripe: humanitarians, leaders of nongovernmental organizations, donors, investors, app peddlers, celebrities.
As you can see, even the New York Times uses the term “globalists” to describe these elitists.

At one time you would have been considered a “conspiracy theorist” is you spoke of “globalists”, but at this point the elite are not even trying to put up a facade any longer.

And of course Donald Trump made opposition to globalism one of the central themes of his campaign, and it really struck a chord all across America. As Dr. Jim Garlow noted in an article that went viral just before the election, Trump’s opposition to globalism was one of the key things that set him apart from Hillary Clinton…

Trump opposes globalism. Hillary thrives on it. Globalism is far more than “geographical” or “eliminating national borders and boundaries.” It is spiritual and demonic at its core. Few—very few—understand this. This is quite likely one of the main reasons why Trump is hated. Do your homework on this one. Think “principalities and powers.” Serious. Extremely serious.
The reason why the threat of globalism is so serious is because if a single global system is ever established there will be no escape from it.

Just think about it – where could you go to escape a government that literally rules the entire world?

These globalists are completely convinced that if they could just get control of everyone and everything that they could establish some sort of environmentally-friendly socialist utopia where war and poverty are eradicated. But in order to do that, they would need to be in a position to micro-manage the lives of every single person on the planet.

In their minds it would not be tyranny, but for those of us that love freedom that is precisely what it would be.

The globalists want a one world government, a one world economy and a one world religion. Those of us that are Christians know that the Bible speaks of a time when this will happen, but even many that are not Christians are deeply concerned about what the globalists are pushing for. Just consider the words of George Mason University Law School Professor Jeremy Rabkin…

George Mason University Law School Professor and author of the 2004 book The Case for Sovereignty: Why The World Should Welcome American Independence Jeremy Rabkin argues that globalism fundamentally stands at odds with democratic forms of government.

In a Tuesday CP interview, Rabkin, a Jew, expressed his distaste for Donald Trump. But on globalism, he said, “beyond that it is not democratic, there’s something about it that is a little creepy, a little uncanny.”

“It’s basically saying ‘We are going to organize the world in a way that establishes an artificial consensus.’ It’s not enough to say it’s undemocratic. It’s threatening; it’s almost demonic. It is a world organized independently of people’s fundamental religious convictions,” Rabkin said.
I think that when Rabkin chose the word “demonic” that he was right on point.

The global elite have already had a tremendous amount of success in promoting values, systems and laws that are “anti-Christian” around the globe.

The globalists control the mainstream media, they control Hollywood, they control our education system and they control most of our politicians.

They thought that they were almost ready to move into the final stages of their agenda, but then Donald Trump happened.

For the moment, the momentum toward a one world system has been stopped cold.

But that doesn’t mean that the globalists will stop trying. Just because Trump won the election does not mean that they are going to roll over and die.

The elite are going to use all of the resources at their disposal to try to destroy Trump, even if that means creating a tremendous amount of chaos.

If you study the globalists, you will quickly discover that one of their favorite tactics is to create order out of chaos. So in the months ahead I think that it is quite likely that we may see quite a bit of chaos as the globalists attempt to get their program back on track.

But if we understand what they are doing, we will be able to see through their games. So let’s keep shining a light on these globalists, because they always prefer to operate in the darkness.

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http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/ta ... o-War.aspx

Globalists Using Donald Trump To Take America Into War

Published: Thursday, May 25, 2017

One thing globalist Republicans and Democrats both love is WAR. They might squabble over social and domestic issues, but when it comes to war, the two parties are ONE. As I have said repeatedly, there is really only ONE party in Washington, D.C.: the War Party. And “outsider” Donald Trump has quickly mastered the presidential art of killing. Let’s face it: our federal government has become one of the bloodiest regimes in world history. Between the killing of unborn babies and the killing of men, women, and children around the world in our so-called war on terror, the U.S. government is an insatiable, sadistic killing machine. And all of the talk about Donald Trump not being controlled by globalists is just that: TALK. It is more than obvious that Zionist globalists own Trump, lock, stock, and barrel.

Donald Trump’s visit to the Western Wall, which is considered to be the Jews’ holiest site, was a complete embarrassment. Anyone with half a brain knows that the Western Wall is NOT “the last standing wall of the Jewish Second Temple.” The New Testament record and the Jewish historian Josephus are clear that there was NOTHING remaining of the Jewish temple, wall, or city after the siege of Titus in A.D. 70.

“And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things [the city, walls, and temple of Jerusalem]? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” (Matthew 24:2)

Josephus wrote: Titus gave orders to “demolish the whole city and temple except for three towers. But for the rest of the wall, it was laid so completely even with the ground by those who dug it up from the foundation, that there was nothing left to make those believe who came hither that it had ever been inhabited.” (“Jewish Wars,” b. 6 chapter 4, section 5-7)

The so-called Western Wall is actually a wall from the Roman Fortress Antonia. It was NEVER part of the Jewish Second Temple. Trump’s sacrilege at the Antonia wall is further evidence of his (and his family’s) total sellout to the false pagan religion of Talmudic, Kabbalah Judaism and its Zionist political wing that is undoubtedly the brains and backbone of the modern globalist New World Order.

I strongly urge readers to get Christian scholar Michael Hoffman’s phenomenal book “Judaism’s Strange Gods” here:

Judaism's Strange Gods

But I digress.

The signs are everywhere that globalists are using Trump to take America into yet another WAR.

As Major General Smedley Butler (USMC) pointed out, war is the biggest money racket in the world. And he was most certainly right. Nothing lines the pockets of globalists, politicians, and corporatists like WAR. Nothing!

See General Butler’s book, “War Is A Racket,” here:

War Is A Racket

And if Donald Trump is about ANYTHING, he is about MONEY.

While fawning, sycophantic conservatives are hailing Donald Trump’s trip to the Middle East as something akin to the return of Christ, many people realize that Trump’s trip is nothing but a precursor to WAR. Listen to this CIA Case Officer and U.S. Army Intelligence Officer:

“‘I fear that we will be looking at war with Iran before too long as it is clear that Trump and his advisers are already completely in the Israeli and Saudi pockets on the issue,’ [Phil] Giraldi, a former CIA Case Officer and US Army Intelligence Officer said on Monday.

“Giraldi described Trump’s repeated hostile rhetoric against Iran in both Saudi Arabia and Israel a ‘depressing’ indication of the likely future direction of US policy in the Middle East.”

“‘In reality, Iran was a far more open and moderate society than Saudi Arabia,’ Giraldi pointed out.

“‘Iran holds elections, which the Saudis do not do, and it is far outgunned by its enemies in the region. It is no threat to anyone but it is convenient to pretend that it is to support policies that would otherwise be unpalatable,’ Giraldi said.”

“‘In Riyadh, Trump abandoned any pretense of following up on his repeated rhetoric during the US presidential election last year to hold the Saudi leaders accountable for their decades of financial and other support for Islamic extremists,’ Giraldi pointed out.

“‘The Saudis have been, of course, the leading funder of Sunni Islamic terrorism, which Trump would not dare to say,’ he noted.”

See the report:

Trump's Mideast Tour Paves The Way For War With Iran, Ex-CIA Official Warns

The White House spin on Trump’s trip to the Middle East is that the trip is “an effort to unite three of the world's leading religious faiths in the common cause of fighting terrorism, reining in Iran and unifying the world against intolerance.” What a bunch of hooey!

“The main purpose of his sojourn is to cut a record arms deal with Saudi Arabia and the other closely aligned Gulf Arab monarchies. While in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, addressing regional leaders about ‘world peace,’ Trump is set to sign off weapons deals worth $350 billion. That's more than double what his predecessor Barack Obama flogged to the Saudi rulers during his presidency.

“According to Bloomberg, topping the list of US arms transfers are warships, helicopter gunships, anti-missile systems and tanks.”

“The Saudi prince, known as MBS by the Trump inner circle, is the chief strategist behind the Saudi war on Yemen since March 2015. That war is a blatant aggression on Yemen carried out by Saudi forces supplied by the US and Britain. Thousands of children have been killed in Saudi air strikes, using internationally banned cluster bombs in indiscriminate attacks on civilian centers.

“Just days before Trump's departure to the Middle East, Saudi air strikes reportedly killed 23 civilians, including six children, near the southern Yemeni city of Taiz.

“Millions of other Yemeni children are dying from starvation and preventable diseases like cholera because of a naval blockade imposed on the country by Saudi and American forces. No doubt the new warships that Trump is lining up for Saudi Arabia will add to the ‘efficacy’ of the genocide that is underway in Yemen.

“With staggering cynicism, the Trump administration is ‘justifying’ this ramped-up military support for Saudi Arabia as an effort to ‘fight terrorism’ and to ‘counter Iranian meddling’ in the region.

“It is alleged that Iran is sponsoring militia in Yemen, Syria and Iraq and this is posing a threat to regional stability. Such claims are an insult to common intelligence, when we know that it is the American CIA and their Saudi client regime who have bankrolled and directed terrorism across the entire Middle East over many years in order to serve hegemonic interests of regime change.

“But what is disturbing is just how braindead the Trump administration is. Trump is recklessly promoting the ridiculous fantasy that Saudi Arabia and its despotic terror-sponsoring clients are somehow the custodians of law and order. He is also pumping up the surreal Saudi narrative that Iran is largely responsible for the Middle East's conflicts.”

“Trump's messianic zeal to visit the Middle East--his first foreign destination being the dubious human rights ‘haven’ Saudi Arabia--is all about flogging ever more deadly weapons to the already explosively-charged region. So desperate is Trump to pimp billions of dollars that he is willing to fuel war with Iran and perhaps Syria's other ally, Russia, in the pursuit of lucre.

“And to add further insult to injury, the whole tour of the ‘holy land’ is being sold by the American government and media as some kind of benevolent religious duty to mankind and world peace.

“The only ‘gifts’ that Trump is bringing to Bethlehem and the region are ever more monstrous ways to murder children.”

See the report:

Trump Visits Bethlehem Bearing Gifts To Child Killers

And speaking of “gifts,” let’s not forget that the Saudi’s--along with the United Arab Emirates--have promised to give $100 million to Ivanka Trump Kushner’s foundation. What a coincidence!

I already reported how Donald Trump killed more people in the month of March than all of the so-called terror states of the world combined. And Trump only became a more proficient killer in the month of April. “The Airwars monitoring group has compiled reports of 1,280 to 1,744 civilians killed by at least 2,237 bombs and missiles that rained down from U.S. and allied warplanes in April (1,609 on Iraq and 628 on Syria). The heaviest casualties were in and around Old Mosul and West Mosul, where 784 to 1,074 civilians were reported killed, but the area around Tabqa in Syria also suffered heavy civilian casualties.”

See the report here:

The Silent Slaughter Of The US Air War

This is the same Donald Trump who on the campaign trail told Fox & Friends, “Who blew up the World Trade Center? It wasn't the Iraqis, it was Saudi--take a look at Saudi Arabia, open the documents.” Now, instead of opening the documents ON Saudi Arabia, Trump is opening the purse FOR Saudi Arabia.

What is it about Christians and conservatives that they can be so easily duped into supporting war? What is it that makes them not only overlook and excuse wars of aggression but also enthusiastically endorse and champion such wars? Nothing builds the size and scope of government like WAR; nothing creates socialist government like WAR; nothing causes people to accept authoritarian government like WAR; nothing separates families like WAR; nothing leaves children homeless and helpless like WAR; nothing fills the political swamp like WAR; nothing empowers globalists like WAR; nothing destroys a country’s economy like WAR; nothing destroys truth like WAR; and nothing sears the conscience of a people like WAR. Yet, professing Christians and conservatives from Alex Jones to Jerry Falwell, Jr. to Mike Huckabee to Tony Perkins continue to laud Donald Trump as a great “conservative” even as he prepares to take America into yet another senseless, unconstitutional, and perhaps global WAR.

P.S. I strongly urge readers to get General Smedley Butler’s book, “War Is A Racket.” It will only take you a few minutes to read this book, but after reading it, you will NEVER look at war the same way again. I wish every American could read this book NOW--before we allow yet another globalist-controlled politician take us into yet another globalist-manipulated war.

Find Major General Smedley Butler’s terrific book, “War Is A Racket,” here:

War Is A Racket

© Chuck Baldwin

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Marlins_Man‏


I want President Donald Trump to SUCCEED. rooting for him to fail is like rooting for the pilot of your plane to crash. Stop being divided,
its in all our best interests for him to succeed.

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eddie wrote: May 30th, 2017, 5:09 pm Marlins_Man‏


I want President Donald Trump to SUCCEED. rooting for him to fail is like rooting for the pilot of your plane to crash. Stop being divided,
its in all our best interests for him to succeed.
No, America needs to crash, and burn, so Trump and the Gadiantons don't kill any more innocent people around the world. America must repent.

Unfortunately for the Trump supporters, the scriptures (even though they are older than 20 years old) are true:
Luke 17:2
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

Or, in the Kool-Aid addled minds of the Trump supporters, do little ones not count if they are brown people?

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eddie wrote: May 30th, 2017, 5:09 pm Marlins_Man‏


I want President Donald Trump to SUCCEED. rooting for him to fail is like rooting for the pilot of your plane to crash. Stop being divided,
its in all our best interests for him to succeed.
I only want him to succeed at upholding the constitution and in proclaiming peace not war. I really want him to succeed at that.

If he is not working to do those things he is working to destroy those things and I cannot support that.

Point blank. Do you support or condone killing innocent people?



My belief is that we actually don't disagree on most points.

Being lds we know killing Is wrong. We know that stealing is wrong.

I feel Black Elk a Lakota medicine man put it really well.

"It's in the darkeness of our own eyes that we become lost."

In other words we put on colored glasses to view the world and everything around us. It changes the way we think to be just as off color and distorted.

I fell that is why we must lean so heavily on scripture and modern prophets to help us see clearly.

When the scriptures command us to renounce war proclaim peace. Warn us that it will be the great and abominable church that's wars with itself. Gets drunk on it's own blood. When our modern prophets warn us that we are a warlike people. Knowing that it's by the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses and having those witnesses saying the same thing. I don't understand why you have chosen to put on those colored glasses to justify the actions of trump or any other president who is going to war and pushing war.

Their actions are either just. Or they are wrong.

According to scripture that we have been given. Trump is wrong in his wars that he has already done and doing. D&c 98 is very clear on the steps we need to take in order for war to be justified.

How do you think it's justified what trump is doing? And how do you think your justified in supporting those actions? I'm very curious. It's a honest question.

I don't see how it's justified according to God. So help me understand.

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For fifty years, despite repeated efforts, the international community has been unable to agree on when the use of force is lawful and when it is not. There will be plenty of time to resume that discussion when the war on terrorism is won. If the "barbaric and atavistic" forces succeed, however, there will be no point in any such discussion, for the law of the jungle will prevail. Completing that victory is the task at hand. And winning may require the use of preemptive force against terrorist forces as well as against the states that harbor them. Michael J. Glennon is a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C., and professor of law at the University of California, Davis, Law School. He is the author of "Limits of Law, Prerogatives of Power: Interventionism after Kosovo" (Palgrave, 2001).

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eddie wrote: May 30th, 2017, 7:13 pm For fifty years, despite repeated efforts, the international community has been unable to agree on when the use of force is lawful and when it is not. There will be plenty of time to resume that discussion when the war on terrorism is won. If the "barbaric and atavistic" forces succeed, however, there will be no point in any such discussion, for the law of the jungle will prevail. Completing that victory is the task at hand. And winning may require the use of preemptive force against terrorist forces as well as against the states that harbor them. Michael J. Glennon is a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C., and professor of law at the University of California, Davis, Law School. He is the author of "Limits of Law, Prerogatives of Power: Interventionism after Kosovo" (Palgrave, 2001).
Was that an answer to why it's justified by God??

=))

Really I was asking an honest question. I didn't want Satire in return

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eddie wrote: May 30th, 2017, 7:13 pm For fifty years, despite repeated efforts, the international community has been unable to agree on when the use of force is lawful and when it is not. There will be plenty of time to resume that discussion when the war on terrorism is won. If the "barbaric and atavistic" forces succeed, however, there will be no point in any such discussion, for the law of the jungle will prevail. Completing that victory is the task at hand. And winning may require the use of preemptive force against terrorist forces as well as against the states that harbor them. Michael J. Glennon is a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C., and professor of law at the University of California, Davis, Law School. He is the author of "Limits of Law, Prerogatives of Power: Interventionism after Kosovo" (Palgrave, 2001).
eddie, if you believe that nonsense, you are such a victim of your environment.

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Silver wrote: May 30th, 2017, 8:04 pm
eddie wrote: May 30th, 2017, 7:13 pm For fifty years, despite repeated efforts, the international community has been unable to agree on when the use of force is lawful and when it is not. There will be plenty of time to resume that discussion when the war on terrorism is won. If the "barbaric and atavistic" forces succeed, however, there will be no point in any such discussion, for the law of the jungle will prevail. Completing that victory is the task at hand. And winning may require the use of preemptive force against terrorist forces as well as against the states that harbor them. Michael J. Glennon is a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C., and professor of law at the University of California, Davis, Law School. He is the author of "Limits of Law, Prerogatives of Power: Interventionism after Kosovo" (Palgrave, 2001).
eddie, if you believe that nonsense, you are such a victim of your environment.
Your opinion is not my reality,

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eddie wrote: May 30th, 2017, 9:32 pm
Silver wrote: May 30th, 2017, 8:04 pm
eddie wrote: May 30th, 2017, 7:13 pm For fifty years, despite repeated efforts, the international community has been unable to agree on when the use of force is lawful and when it is not. There will be plenty of time to resume that discussion when the war on terrorism is won. If the "barbaric and atavistic" forces succeed, however, there will be no point in any such discussion, for the law of the jungle will prevail. Completing that victory is the task at hand. And winning may require the use of preemptive force against terrorist forces as well as against the states that harbor them. Michael J. Glennon is a fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C., and professor of law at the University of California, Davis, Law School. He is the author of "Limits of Law, Prerogatives of Power: Interventionism after Kosovo" (Palgrave, 2001).
eddie, if you believe that nonsense, you are such a victim of your environment.
Your opinion is not my reality,
Well, unfortunately for you, eddie, the reality is that you are sharing the words of a man, Michael J. Glennon, who belongs to an organization that is determined to overthrow the sovereignty of the United States. Now eddie, I'm really scratching my head as to why you are participating on an Internet forum dedicated to freedom.

So here's a lesson for you about discernment, eddie, which you sorely lack. When I read the statement, I didn't really know anything about Glennon having never heard of his name. However, my spidey senses were immediately alerted by his comment. That lead me to the CFR membership roster linked below. Sure enough, the Spirit spoke truly to me, again, as you will see that Glennon is there. Your guy hates America. That's why he supports "preemptive force" which God and all the holy prophets abhor. It's in the Book of Mormon, eddie. Don't you believe that book of scripture?

I'm going to assume that you just ignorantly grabbed the quote in your post and innocently threw it into this thread. You can see now how mistaken you were to rely on Glennon, right? Will you acknowledge, eddie, that you're wrong? Do you have the integrity to say you messed up by quoting Glennon?

I'm serious, eddie. I'd truly like to help you, but you've got to help yourself and move away from your destructive, unholy positions of supporting elites and warmongers.

https://www.cfr.org/membership-roster-g-k

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Here's what's really happening in the Trump White House. Did you Trump supporters vote for Kissinger to come in and further destroy America through disastrous foreign policy? I bet not. Then why don't you have the integrity to now admit that you made a mistake?

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The face of Hollywood...the face of the rabid anti-Trumpers:

http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/30/kathy-gri ... r-shields/

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Fiannan wrote: May 30th, 2017, 10:54 pm The face of Hollywood...the face of the rabid anti-Trumpers:

http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/30/kathy-gri ... r-shields/
So do you agree with eddie's post about preemptive force?

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Re: WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING

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Silver wrote: May 30th, 2017, 11:00 pm
Fiannan wrote: May 30th, 2017, 10:54 pm The face of Hollywood...the face of the rabid anti-Trumpers:

http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/30/kathy-gri ... r-shields/
So do you agree with eddie's post about preemptive force?
Please clarify.

Also, should the lady in the picture be arrested for incitement to violence or a hate crime against victims of ISIS since most of their beheadings are done on Arabs and her picture may be seen as mocking their deaths?

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Fiannan wrote: May 31st, 2017, 1:54 am
Silver wrote: May 30th, 2017, 11:00 pm
Fiannan wrote: May 30th, 2017, 10:54 pm The face of Hollywood...the face of the rabid anti-Trumpers:

http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/30/kathy-gri ... r-shields/
So do you agree with eddie's post about preemptive force?
Please clarify.

Also, should the lady in the picture be arrested for incitement to violence or a hate crime against victims of ISIS since most of their beheadings are done on Arabs and her picture may be seen as mocking their deaths?
Go back 8 posts and read the Michael J. Glennon quote eddie posted. Do you agree with that? If you do, then read Ezra's response and my two responses to that post and see if you still agree with eddie/Glennon.

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