Weaker men attracted to left-wing politics.

[Fiannan]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/weak ... -rsnc3l8mk

A study has found that weaker men are more likely to be in favour of redistributive taxation. The strong on the other hand, who in their cavemen past had no problems controlling both women and resources they had no intention of sharing, are far less likely to see the virtue of egalitarian social policies.

I have tended to notice this as well. Do people think this is due to testosterone levels? Maybe men who have high levels are more competitive while those with lower levels are more timid and feel everyone should be equal and just get along?

[Silver]

(In my deepest, most virile voice) Well, of course that's true.

[Ezra]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/weak ... -rsnc3l8mk

A study has found that weaker men are more likely to be in favour of redistributive taxation. The strong on the other hand, who in their cavemen past had no problems controlling both women and resources they had no intention of sharing, are far less likely to see the virtue of egalitarian social policies.

I have tended to notice this as well. Do people think this is due to testosterone levels? Maybe men who have high levels are more competitive while those with lower levels are more timid and feel everyone should be equal and just get along?

Ya we should all get along. that has nothing to do with thinking we should be equal by the theft of others.

[Alaris]

The left is an extension of the rebellion - their agenda is anti-agency, anti-life, anti-accountability, and anti-opportunity. This agenda will always be attractive to those who are afraid of failure and who are full of envy.

[iWriteStuff]

Fiannan: "Attention everyone who didn't vote for Trump...."

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[2EstablishZion]

I don;t know if I would tie it to testosterone exactly. I mean I have always been a manly man, but I am pretty non-aggressive and not even a real go getter. I'm a deep thinker, moderately introverted. But I have always supported laissez-faire economics and libertarian principles, bordering on anarcho-capitalism.

Even though I think the ideal, at least in this sphere, is having "all things in common", even there I feel it is resources, not finished products. If I build a house, I have a natural right to the fruits of my labors - and if I go out for groceries, I don't think someone has a right to move in just because it is unoccupied at the moment.

Perhaps a better way to put it is I believe in all things in common, but it requires not only a population of givers, there also has to be an absense of people who greedily will take take take. Either kind of selfishness will make such a system unworkable.

[TheMartyrSpeaks]

The terms "liberal" and "conservative" are so out of whack in modern times. Neither has an obvious definition. The classical definition of "liberal" was "in favor of change over tradition" whereas "conservative" was defined as "in favor of tradition over change." The founding fathers of America, when they fought in the Revolution, were all defined as liberal. In fact, up until as late as the 20th century, "liberal" and the political left favored the free market and individual liberty, two things which modern "conservatives" like to claim they support but more often than not they still participate in unjust regulation and limitations on freedom. The real "liberals" are the libertarians, not the Democrats or the Republicans, and the libertarians fight to restore America to its former glory, or as Trump declares it "making America great again." Trump cannot and will not do this to the same degree.

[TheMartyrSpeaks]

I don;t know if I would tie it to testosterone exactly. I mean I have always been a manly man, but I am pretty non-aggressive and not even a real go getter. I'm a deep thinker, moderately introverted. But I have always supported laissez-faire economics and libertarian principles, bordering on anarcho-capitalism.

Even though I think the ideal, at least in this sphere, is having "all things in common", even there I feel it is resources, not finished products. If I build a house, I have a natural right to the fruits of my labors - and if I go out for groceries, I don't think someone has a right to move in just because it is unoccupied at the moment.

Perhaps a better way to put it is I believe in all things in common, but it requires not only a population of givers, there also has to be an absense of people who greedily will take take take. Either kind of selfishness will make such a system unworkable.

You're a Voluntaryist/'Anarcho-capitalist? I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE!

[Jakealdrich5]

Wow! That's a shocker!

[Dlight]

As the weakest of men, in current health and finances, I can honestly tell you that I have no desire to force people to give me money by inaction of laws. But I am definitely a beggar at this point in my life. And low testosterone too

But I know enough about the gospel to realize that socialism is its own form of coveting to try to plunder people for riches:

Alma 17:14 and their hearts were set upon riches, or upon gold and silver, and precious stones; yet they sought to obtain these things by murdering and plundering, that they might not labor for them with their own hands.

I'm not out on the street or trying to take money from others but I have been forced to put my petition up a lot. I wish a mentor or someone wealthy exists out there to take me under their wing and help me walk upright, and invest in me, seeing my potential. I never had one growing up...but I read things like this scripture and I wonder if anyone I know would ever do that for me?

17 Think of your brethren like unto yourselves, and be familiar with all and free with your substance, that they may be rich like unto you.

To me if I ever get rich I will try to always be doing that for someone else based on my experience. I don't see that happening anytime soon for myself, I have sought it though. But I dont want it forced on everyone but thats only because I have the gospel in my life.

So instead I'm doing all I can in my power to fulfill my desire to stand on my own two feet, all while I have battled to recover my physical health with chronic fatigue and mood/anxiety and depression disorders which have really made it more difficult.

I am up working at 6am in the morning, driving for lyft in my spare time as needed, trying to start a business and do school, taking business classes and even I tried to enroll in the church self reliance program to teach me independence.

On one hand I hope to become industrious and strong person, and I work towards that every day, but on the other hand my entire life has given me nothing but one setback and stumble after the other. I turn to God and feel lots of comfort one day, I feel upbeat and positive and then next day I cant get out of bed, feel absolutely horrible and like I just want to give up.

My impression is that I just I need to just humble myself more because the things I want are maybe too lofty...the church and others are there to pay a phone or a car bill in a bad month. I can get some food when needed. But i'm not going to have someone put me through a program for mental health, or help me go into a mental health rehab place.

My sense is that I have to figure this out on my own with me and God so I can be more battle hardened so to speak.

[brianj]

These weak girly men also tend to be strongly opposed to private gun ownership. They don't have the stones to stand up to attackers and conclude that if all weapons are outlawed then nobody will be mean. It's a special kind of stupid.

[Fiannan]

Wonder what this guy's political orientations are:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... wYvfyrXQzI

Think liberals might see this sort of thing as an inspiration?

[Original_Intent]

I'd say weak, dependent people of both sexes are inclined to political parties and movements that are redistributive. That's not rocket science.

[Fiannan]

I'd say weak, dependent people of both sexes are inclined to political parties and movements that are redistributive. That's not rocket science.

Add to the mix, especially women, having toxic empathy. I use this term, as a play on words, to refer to when people have so much compassion and caring that they become vulnerable to manipulation by people and organizations who direct them towards left-wing solutions for real and imagined problems and injustices.

[thestock]

As the weakest of men, in current health and finances, I can honestly tell you that I have no desire to force people to give me money by inaction of laws. But I am definitely a beggar at this point in my life. And low testosterone too

But I know enough about the gospel to realize that socialism is its own form of coveting to try to plunder people for riches:

Alma 17:14 and their hearts were set upon riches, or upon gold and silver, and precious stones; yet they sought to obtain these things by murdering and plundering, that they might not labor for them with their own hands.

I'm not out on the street or trying to take money from others but I have been forced to put my petition up a lot. I wish a mentor or someone wealthy exists out there to take me under their wing and help me walk upright, and invest in me, seeing my potential. I never had one growing up...but I read things like this scripture and I wonder if anyone I know would ever do that for me?

17 Think of your brethren like unto yourselves, and be familiar with all and free with your substance, that they may be rich like unto you.

To me if I ever get rich I will try to always be doing that for someone else based on my experience. I don't see that happening anytime soon for myself, I have sought it though. But I dont want it forced on everyone but thats only because I have the gospel in my life.

So instead I'm doing all I can in my power to fulfill my desire to stand on my own two feet, all while I have battled to recover my physical health with chronic fatigue and mood/anxiety and depression disorders which have really made it more difficult.

I am up working at 6am in the morning, driving for lyft in my spare time as needed, trying to start a business and do school, taking business classes and even I tried to enroll in the church self reliance program to teach me independence.

On one hand I hope to become industrious and strong person, and I work towards that every day, but on the other hand my entire life has given me nothing but one setback and stumble after the other. I turn to God and feel lots of comfort one day, I feel upbeat and positive and then next day I cant get out of bed, feel absolutely horrible and like I just want to give up.

My impression is that I just I need to just humble myself more because the things I want are maybe too lofty...the church and others are there to pay a phone or a car bill in a bad month. I can get some food when needed. But i'm not going to have someone put me through a program for mental health, or help me go into a mental health rehab place.

My sense is that I have to figure this out on my own with me and God so I can be more battle hardened so to speak.

Hey man just wanted to say given what you wrote that I am inspired by you. I know these struggles are real and difficult...but you seem to have an optimism and a drive that things will work out. I hope you can get your physical/mental health issues dealt with....that will be a huge help. Keep going, things will work out (I've had to tell myself this many times even when I dont initially believe it, but its true).

Love and support, brother.

[captainfearnot]

I have tended to notice this as well. Do people think this is due to testosterone levels? Maybe men who have high levels are more competitive while those with lower levels are more timid and feel everyone should be equal and just get along?

It seems like simple game theory. People favor inequality when they believe they have a competitive advantage, and equality when they believe they are at a disadvantage.

Also interesting, when the study controlled for time spent in the gym, the correlation between physical strength and socioeconomic belief went away.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3816303907

[setyourselffree]

How are they defining a weak man? Like physical strength, or mental strength?

[Fiannan]

Also interesting, when the study controlled for time spent in the gym, the correlation between physical strength and socioeconomic belief went away.

Time in the gym? Most men who are physically fit do not have gym memberships.

[Fiannan]

How are they defining a weak man? Like physical strength, or mental strength?

Seen the typical leftist nowadays?

[Gage]

In my experience around "weaker men" or who I presumed to be weaker, tended to side with whichever way the wife leaned.

[setyourselffree]

How are they defining a weak man? Like physical strength, or mental strength?

Seen the typical leftist nowadays?

Yes they are all pretty physically fit. They typically take care of themselves. So are we talking mentally weak? And if they are mentally weak how would you define that?

[setyourselffree]

In my experience around "weaker men" or who I presumed to be weaker, tended to side with whichever way the wife leaned.

You mean like the family that comes to church and the wife is driving?

[Gage]

In my experience around "weaker men" or who I presumed to be weaker, tended to side with whichever way the wife leaned.

You mean like the family that comes to church and the wife is driving?

yep that would be a good example

[setyourselffree]

In my experience around "weaker men" or who I presumed to be weaker, tended to side with whichever way the wife leaned.

You mean like the family that comes to church and the wife is driving?

yep that would be a good example

Hahahahahaha, I don't know why but that bugs me like crazy. Whenever I see a woman driving the family around I know the woman is in charge.

[justme]

I may be missing sarcasm during a quick reading, but are you really saying there is something wrong or weak about having the wife drive? Really? wow.

I think it is weak and unmanly to think it is weak to let the wife drive.