“I’m a nationalist and a globalist.”

[iWriteStuff]

“Hey, I’m a nationalist and a globalist,” Trump said. “I’m both.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-says ... 1493320127

Alrighty anti-globalist Trump supporters, please choose your reality.

(Personally I think we should create a new term for this policy stance: "Glotionalist")

[Silver]

I'd use natglobal. Rhymes with cabal.

[Onsdag]

I'd use natglobal. Rhymes with cabal.

Actually... not really. At least not in my neck of the woods.
Global sounds like glow-bowl. Whereas cabal sounds like kuh-bawl. Long O verses short A.

IWS's suggestion, though, has a nice ring to it. It reminds me of the word gloat. Which is probably what all the Global-Nationalists, or Gloationalists, are doing right now - gloating over all the chums who fell for their rhetoric.

[Silver]

I'd use natglobal. Rhymes with cabal.

Actually... not really. At least not in my neck of the woods.
Global sounds like glow-bowl. Whereas cabal sounds like kuh-bawl. Long O verses short A.

IWS's suggestion, though, has a nice ring to it. It reminds me of the word gloat. Which is probably what all the Global-Nationalists, or Gloationalists, are doing right now - gloating over all the chums who fell for their rhetoric.

You're right. I was forcing the rhyme to make a point. Thanks for checking up on me. I'm always impressed with your attention to details.

[shadow]

So basically he voted for nationalism before he voted against it but he supports it, and doesn't.

[JohnnyL]

Is it impossible to be both?

[Alaris]

Is it impossible to be both?

Exactly. That's like saying I'm vegetarian and love eating meat. There are probably better analogies but yeah... Hard to ignore that statement by Trump. Sounds like he did indeed dupe his supporters. Hopefully his SCOTUS nominee isn't another wolf in sheep's.

[shadow]

Is it impossible to be both?

No, it's possible to be both. Depends on his definitions.

[JohnnyL]

Is it impossible to be both?

Exactly. That's like saying I'm vegetarian and love eating meat. There are probably better analogies but yeah... Hard to ignore that statement by Trump. Sounds like he did indeed dupe his supporters. Hopefully his SCOTUS nominee isn't another wolf in sheep's.

Hey, no doubt Trump's already done it in numerous ways. Pence, in the Utah rally: "we will undo every Obama executive order the second day we're in office." Still waiting... :-w

I'm a nationalist and a globalist, too. It depends, and to what degrees. Ordering missile parts from China, killing our agriculture so that we are dependent on other nations for food, selling water rights to foreign companies, supporting illegal immigrants, etc. is plain stupid. On the other hand, learn and grow, trade, immigrate and assimilate, no need to hate others and their countries, people are not their government, etc.

[Silver]

It depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.
Bill Clinton, 1998

Isn't it a shame that nearly two decades later we have to parse meanings and guess loyalties of another scoundrel and murderer in the White House?

[shadow]

Fact: Globalism has opened doors for the church missionary program. That's good. Would you deny that?

[Ezra]

Fact: Globalism has opened doors for the church missionary program. That's good. Would you deny that?

That kinda like saying Satan opens doors for the church missionary program. Or that wars of foreign aggression has opened doors.

[shadow]

Fact: Globalism has opened doors for the church missionary program. That's good. Would you deny that?

That kinda like saying Satan opens doors for the church missionary program. Or that wars of foreign aggression has opened doors.

Interpret it how you want, but it's true. Globalism HAS opened the doors for the Gospel to go forth.

[Fiannan]

I interact with women I am not married to but I am loyal to my wife.

Anyone with half a brain understands what I mean. So when the media distorts Trump's message that means they are liars or have less than half a brain.

[shadow]

Fact: Globalism has opened doors for the church missionary program. That's good. Would you deny that?

That kinda like saying Satan opens doors for the church missionary program. Or that wars of foreign aggression has opened doors.

i served in Canada, I don't recall foreign aggression being the thing that allowed us in. Having a good relationship between the two counties, which can be defined as globalism, is what let missionaries in.

[Ezra]

Fact: Globalism has opened doors for the church missionary program. That's good. Would you deny that?

That kinda like saying Satan opens doors for the church missionary program. Or that wars of foreign aggression has opened doors.

Interpret it how you want, but it's true. Globalism HAS opened the doors for the Gospel to go forth.

So you think the socialists globalist agenda is what is opening doors for God?

Ya don't think so. You can think that all you want.

[Alaris]

Hey helping the world and teaching and free trade and all that stuff is good. When Donald Trump says he's a globalist too that's bad.

When a president of the USA says he's a nationalist and a globalist of course that's disconcerting. Globalism is not a good thing by politicians' definition as it puts at odds our country's welfare at the expense of centralizing compulsive power elsewhere which is luciferianism make no mistake. Can anyone here truly make an argument that globalism is or has been a good effort founded in causes of freedom and good principle?

Behold I say unto you nay.

For globalism is centralized power and control and synonymous with the anti God agendas of the left. Environmentalism. Abortionism. Theft of Peter to pay Paul...COMPULSION. EVIL.

[Silver]

I think President Monson would be surprised to learn that making all those trips to East Germany to get a temple opened there, and all his prayers and travails finally resulting in success was really due to globalism.

[Shimdidly]

It is concerning to me. I was very happy to vote for Donald Trump and think he has done a great job overall so far. As expected he hasn't been perfect. I do not support any foreign aggression, and trying to play both sides doesn't sit well, either. Us Trump supporters aren't the sheep that supported Obama no matter what he did. I will praise and give my full support for every good thing he does and oppose the bad.

I think the opposition Trump gets on this forum is embarrassing and not persuasive at all. If all you do is look for every problem and say, "I told you so" no one that supports him is going to take you seriously. I post on the_donald and we have discussions all the time about the things we differ on with our president. We have an amazing once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to work with a president that actually cares about this country and wants to restore prosperity, and you would piss it all away because he isn't immediately establishing your vision of a libertarian Utopia.

[Silver]

It is concerning to me. I was very happy to vote for Donald Trump and think he has done a great job overall so far. As expected he hasn't been perfect. I do not support any foreign aggression, and trying to play both sides doesn't sit well, either. Us Trump supporters aren't the sheep that supported Obama no matter what he did. I will praise and give my full support for every good thing he does and oppose the bad.

I think the opposition Trump gets on this forum is embarrassing and not persuasive at all. If all you do is look for every problem and say, "I told you so" no one that supports him is going to take you seriously. I post on the_donald and we have discussions all the time about the things we differ on with our president. We have an amazing once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to work with a president that actually cares about this country and wants to restore prosperity, and you would piss it all away because he isn't immediately establishing your vision of a libertarian Utopia.

I can't help it if you refuse to recognize that Trump has surrounded himself with CFR, NWO, Goldman Sachs & warmongers just like all the last several presidents. In this case, expecting better results truly is the very definition of insanity.

[Shimdidly]

Honestly I think he's trying to co-opt the NWO. I don't think it is going to work, but that's what he's trying to do. I think as a strategy it's probably smart. Get the current system on-board is going to be a faster, simpler, and more painless way to go. As an example I would change my eating habits before attempting surgical fat removal. Maybe the system is beyond repair, I mean, to the point that Hillary would have been the nail in the coffin. Maybe Trump is a short reprieve from the anti-human globalist agenda. If he succeeds in his promises and brings America back I will see it as nothing short of a miracle. I don't know that anyone could do a better job than him at this time. His talent stack is near perfect for what this country needs. He's in a dangerous spot and needs all the help he can get. He has had a very hard time getting the people he wants in position. I don't like the warmongers, establishment types so close to him, but my trust level is high and I believe it is for several reasons, for one, he needs to learn how to work in the current system, so he brings on those that know it, even if they're snakes like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

[Silver]

Honestly I think he's trying to co-opt the NWO. I don't think it is going to work, but that's what he's trying to do. I think as a strategy it's probably smart. Get the current system on-board is going to be a faster, simpler, and more painless way to go. As an example I would change my eating habits before attempting surgical fat removal. Maybe the system is beyond repair, I mean, to the point that Hillary would have been the nail in the coffin. Maybe Trump is a short reprieve from the anti-human globalist agenda. If he succeeds in his promises and brings America back I will see it as nothing short of a miracle. I don't know that anyone could do a better job than him at this time. His talent stack is near perfect for what this country needs. He's in a dangerous spot and needs all the help he can get. He has had a very hard time getting the people he wants in position. I don't like the warmongers, establishment types so close to him, but my trust level is high and I believe it is for several reasons, for one, he needs to learn how to work in the current system, so he brings on those that know it, even if they're snakes like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

I wish I could share your optimism, but I remember Reagan was also supposed to be the guy that made America great again. As for Trump, he's even more beholden to the big banks which kept his real estate deals alive than Reagan and Nixon before him. There's a snowball's chance of success.

[Shimdidly]

Well he's already done a lot of good already. The things he's said have been very damaging to the NWO. My skepticism comes from wondering whether or not anyone can really change such a broken system. My optimism comes from how well he's done so far. I can't be the only one, as the dollar is stronger and the stock market is up 3T. I think we're all beholden to the big banks. I believe they have the power to bring down the whole system. He could be 100% uncompromising and the banksters could collapse the whole system and put it all on his head. Who knows what pressures he has to deal with and chess moves he has to make. It's an impossible position to be in. I think I mean well and try to do the right thing as much as I can, but I don't think I could do half as good a job that he's doing. I don't have the talent stack to work with the complexities he's dealing with. He still has a lot of benefit of the doubt from me. Those feelings will persists until I see a pivot. The Syrian missile attack gave me pause, as have other things.

[iWriteStuff]

Well he's already done a lot of good already. The things he's said have been very damaging to the NWO. My skepticism comes from wondering whether or not anyone can really change such a broken system. My optimism comes from how well he's done so far. I can't be the only one, as the dollar is stronger and the stock market is up 3T. I think we're all beholden to the big banks. I believe they have the power to bring down the whole system. He could be 100% uncompromising and the banksters could collapse the whole system and put it all on his head. Who knows what pressures he has to deal with and chess moves he has to make. It's an impossible position to be in. I think I mean well and try to do the right thing as much as I can, but I don't think I could do half as good a job that he's doing. I don't have the talent stack to work with the complexities he's dealing with. He still has a lot of benefit of the doubt from me. Those feelings will persists until I see a pivot. The Syrian missile attack gave me pause, as have other things.

Yes, the things Trump has said have been damaging to the NWO. But the things he has done has made them positively giddy with anticipation. Goldman Sachs execs saturating his administration, firing rockets into Syria, sending more military to intimidate North Korea, cash repatriation for rich multinational corporations, cutting corporate taxes down to 15%, slashing banking regulations so they can continue to steal and plunder from their own customers....

Who does this all serve? Globalists.

[Silver]

Well he's already done a lot of good already. The things he's said have been very damaging to the NWO. My skepticism comes from wondering whether or not anyone can really change such a broken system. My optimism comes from how well he's done so far. I can't be the only one, as the dollar is stronger and the stock market is up 3T. I think we're all beholden to the big banks. I believe they have the power to bring down the whole system. He could be 100% uncompromising and the banksters could collapse the whole system and put it all on his head. Who knows what pressures he has to deal with and chess moves he has to make. It's an impossible position to be in. I think I mean well and try to do the right thing as much as I can, but I don't think I could do half as good a job that he's doing. I don't have the talent stack to work with the complexities he's dealing with. He still has a lot of benefit of the doubt from me. Those feelings will persists until I see a pivot. The Syrian missile attack gave me pause, as have other things.

Yes, the things Trump has said have been damaging to the NWO. But the things he has done has made them positively giddy with anticipation. Goldman Sachs execs saturating his administration, firing rockets into Syria, sending more military to intimidate North Korea, cash repatriation for rich multinational corporation, corporate taxes down to 15%, slashing banking regulations so they can continue to steal and plunder from their own customers....

Who does this all serve? Globalists.

Glow-bull-ists.
They're so fantastic their bull glows. And the sheeple accept it as part of their daily ration of panem et circenses.

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