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Think about this. Most Americans are not supporters of the left, but if the corporate media continues to promote their agenda, the educational institutions promote the agenda and organized religion always tries to make peace with it just think what happens if they do become the majority.

This is what happens when you try to organize a peaceful Trump rally today:

https://www.facebook.com/IamRickyDiaz/v ... f=NEWSFEED

Think about what the left would like to do with you and your family if you are not one of them.

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Act 1 of a 3 act play

Act 2 = 2020

Act 3 = 2024

Then the winding up scene begins. :-)

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I watched a lot of video of that Berkeley rally. The Trump supporters are lying to themselves if they think they only had peaceful intentions. Both sides came to fight and they all know it.

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BeNotDeceived wrote: April 17th, 2017, 7:45 am Act 1 of a 3 act play

Act 2 = 2020

Act 3 = 2024

Then the winding up scene begins. :-)

Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

This also pertains to putting dates on when certain events happen.

I dont know if your lds, ex lds or not but i'd stop trying to put dates on things.

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h_p wrote: April 17th, 2017, 12:59 pm I watched a lot of video of that Berkeley rally. The Trump supporters are lying to themselves if they think they only had peaceful intentions. Both sides came to fight and they all know it.
I too saw a lot of video footage and the left came with offensive weapons and the right came prepared. In the end the left learned some aspects of dental repair possibilities.

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It's about time members of the right fought back. Time after time they turned the other cheek while being assaulted. You give a bully an inch they'll take it a mile. I'm not saying anyone should go looking for a fight, but everyone has every right in the world to defend themselves.

I find it amazing that the left compares Trump to Hitler and believe he and his supporters would advocate concentration camps. If there was any risk at all of something like that happening it would be a policy of the left. And it would be done in the name of the greater good of the country, and to rid society of undesirables. Already those who don't have the "correct" beliefs are prevented from speaking at Universities. Those who don't have the correct beliefs can find their employment suffer.

The first battle was a conflict of ideas, and so it'll be with the last.

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Fiannan wrote: April 17th, 2017, 7:37 am Think about this. Most Americans are not supporters of the left, but if the corporate media continues to promote their agenda, the educational institutions promote the agenda and organized religion always tries to make peace with it just think what happens if they do become the majority.

This is what happens when you try to organize a peaceful Trump rally today:

https://www.facebook.com/IamRickyDiaz/v ... f=NEWSFEED

Think about what the left would like to do with you and your family if you are not one of them.
The title of this thread would be more accurate as: Now that the US operates under communism...

Further the highlighted portion is inaccurate. It should read as: Most Americans are unwitting supporters of the left. The joke of "Make America Great Again" notwithstanding, Joe Sixpack doesn't know liberty from a hole in the ground. Education is the key, as mentioned in the original post.

For example, if the 10 Planks of Communist Manifesto have been implemented in America, wouldn't you say we're already good little communists?
http://laissez-fairerepublic.com/tenplanks.html

"The Ten Planks of the
Communist Manifesto
1848 by Karl Heinrich Marx
How "Marxist" Has the United States Become?

Although Marx advocated the use of any means, especially including violent revolution, to bring about socialist dictatorship, he suggested ten political goals for developed countries such as the United States. How far has the United States -- traditionally the bastion of freedom, free markets, and private property -- gone down the Marxist road to fulfill these socialist aims? You be the judge. The following are Marx's ten planks from his Communist Manifesto.

1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

The courts have interpreted the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868) to give the government far more "eminent domain" power than was originally intended, Under the rubric of "eminent domain" and various zoning regulations, land use regulations by the Bureau of Land Managementproperty taxes, and "environmental" excuses, private property rights have become very diluted and private property in landis, vehicles, and other forms are seized almost every day in this country under the "forfeiture" provisions of the RICO statutes and the so-called War on Drugs..

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

The 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913 (which some scholars maintain was never properly ratified), and various State income taxes, established this major Marxist coup in the United States many decades ago. These taxes continue to drain the lifeblood out of the American economy and greatly reduce the accumulation of desperately needed capital for future growth, business starts, job creation, and salary increases.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

Another Marxian attack on private property rights is in the form of Federal & State estate taxes and other inheritance taxes, which have abolished or at least greatly diluted the right of private property owners to determine the disposition and distribution of their estates upon their death. Instead, government bureaucrats get their greedy hands involved .

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

We call it government seizures, tax liens, "forfeiture" Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

The Federal Reserve System, created by the Federal Reserve Act of Congress in 1913, is indeed such a "national bank" and it politically manipulates interest rates and holds a monopoly on legal counterfeiting in the United States. This is exactly what Marx had in mind and completely fulfills this plank, another major socialist objective. Yet, most Americans naively believe the U.S. of A. is far from a Marxist or socialist nation.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

In the U.S., communication and transportation are controlled and regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) established by the Communications Act of 1934 and the Department of Transportation and the Interstate Commerce Commission (established by Congress in 1887), and the Federal Aviation Administration as well as Executive orders 11490, 10999 -- not to mention various state bureaucracies and regulations. There is also the federal postal monopoly, AMTRAK and CONRAIL -- outright socialist (government-owned) enterprises. Instead of free-market private enteprrise in these important industries, these fields in America are semi-cartelized through the government's regulatory-industiral complex.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

While the U.S. does not have vast "collective farms" (which failed so miserably in the Soviet Union), we nevertheless do have a significant degree of government involvement in agriculture in the form of price support subsidies and acreage alotments and land-use controls. The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000. And I almost forgot...The Equal Rights Amendment means that women should do all work that men do including the military and since passage it would make women subject to the draft.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

We call it the Planning Reorganization Act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" .

So, is the U.S. a "free country" today? Hardly! Not compared to what it once was. Yet, very few Americans today challenge these Marxist institutions, and there are virtually no politicians calling for their repeal or even gradual phase-out. While the United States of America may still have more freedoms than most other countries, we have nonetheless lost many crucial liberties and have accepted the major socialist attacks on freedom and private property as normal parts of our way of life. The nation, whose founders included such individualists as Thomas Jefferson, George Mason, James Madison, John Adams and Patrick Henry, has gradually turned away from the principles of individual rights, limited constitutional government, private property, and free markets and instead we increasingly have embraced the failed ideas and nostrums of socialism and fascism. We should hang our heads in shame for having allowed this to happen." (close quote)

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Fiannan wrote: April 18th, 2017, 12:50 am
h_p wrote: April 17th, 2017, 12:59 pm I watched a lot of video of that Berkeley rally. The Trump supporters are lying to themselves if they think they only had peaceful intentions. Both sides came to fight and they all know it.
I too saw a lot of video footage and the left came with offensive weapons and the right came prepared. In the end the left learned some aspects of dental repair possibilities.
I'm not saying Antifa didn't have it coming. :ymdevil: But I saw a lot of brinkmanship games, each trying to provoke the other side into throwing the first punch, so they could feel justified in hitting back. And plenty of aggression from both sides.

I'm sure we'll see soon enough whether this will make Antifa go back to their porn and video games, or escalate the violence.

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h_p wrote: April 18th, 2017, 9:11 am
Fiannan wrote: April 18th, 2017, 12:50 am
h_p wrote: April 17th, 2017, 12:59 pm I watched a lot of video of that Berkeley rally. The Trump supporters are lying to themselves if they think they only had peaceful intentions. Both sides came to fight and they all know it.
I too saw a lot of video footage and the left came with offensive weapons and the right came prepared. In the end the left learned some aspects of dental repair possibilities.
I'm not saying Antifa didn't have it coming. :ymdevil: But I saw a lot of brinkmanship games, each trying to provoke the other side into throwing the first punch, so they could feel justified in hitting back. And plenty of aggression from both sides.

I'm sure we'll see soon enough whether this will make Antifa go back to their porn and video games, or escalate the violence.
Sadly, this is how society breaks down. Most of the young-and-dumb college students and SJWs we see in videos questioning their gender or spouting off what they last heard their sociology professor lectured about are generally satisfied with porn and video games. However, a small segment wants to provoke violence and the anarchists are more than happy to enlist them. Yet once this process escalates and the Trump people are tired of turning the other cheek you will see vigilante violence. In Sweden the left uses terrorism to silence anyone they hate on the right. Generally the right does not fight back. However, Americans are a totally different breed. Expect some Negan-style justice to be enlisted if Trump supporters are subjected to attacks.

Then if the economy collapses sides will decimate the wimpy porn/video game guys and we don't want to discuss what happens to the females. I mean look at Libya today - blacks are being sold as slaves and various militias are vying for power. Doubt women go on the streets like they used to under Kadaffi.


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The left already is the majority using another interpretation of the scale:

Left = 100% government control, Right = 0% government control.

On the other/popular left/right scale, what's the real difference in personal liberty between far left and far right?

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Why did you bother with the "if" come to think of it why did you bother with "the Majority"

The left controls the media, the schools, the courts, the entertainment, most corporations, all of the fields of psychology, sociology, social work, elementary education, higher education. In the federal government they control the parks department, the BLM, the National Forest Service, NOAA, teh department of Health and Human Services, the Education Department, the EPA.

You are kidding yourself if you think they will be satisfied with rolling back the trump edicts, they will be aggressive to take new ground after the next election. Family rights, 2nd amendment, free speech, religious liberty will all fall victim to the next president.

Stop trying to go back to the 80's or even the 90's, this is your new reality. Get used to it, or pray for divine intervention.

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The left seems to have almost won the war through an interesting tactic.

A major message of the Democratic party in the US is: "You may disagree with us on everything but you have to vote for us because Republicans are EVIL!"

With their control of the media and schools, leftists have been able to convince young people that Democrats want to protect the planet, help the poor, and give them a free university education but Republicans want to destroy all life on the planet, take all the money for themselves and let everybody else starve, and could easily give everybody a free university education but want to steal that money for themselves.

For at least the last 40 years registered Democrats have outnumbered registered Republicans, with Republicans only winning elections becuase of swing votes and a greater voter turnout.

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h_p wrote: April 18th, 2017, 9:11 am
Fiannan wrote: April 18th, 2017, 12:50 am
h_p wrote: April 17th, 2017, 12:59 pm I watched a lot of video of that Berkeley rally. The Trump supporters are lying to themselves if they think they only had peaceful intentions. Both sides came to fight and they all know it.
I too saw a lot of video footage and the left came with offensive weapons and the right came prepared. In the end the left learned some aspects of dental repair possibilities.
I'm not saying Antifa didn't have it coming. :ymdevil: But I saw a lot of brinkmanship games, each trying to provoke the other side into throwing the first punch, so they could feel justified in hitting back. And plenty of aggression from both sides.

I'm sure we'll see soon enough whether this will make Antifa go back to their porn and video games, or escalate the violence.
I believe it's a near 100% certainty it'll escalate. Without a national calamity to throw water on the fire, the passions of the opposing forces are too inflamed to turn back voluntarily.

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tribrac wrote: April 18th, 2017, 3:05 pm Why did you bother with the "if" come to think of it why did you bother with "the Majority"

The left controls the media, the schools, the courts, the entertainment, most corporations, all of the fields of psychology, sociology, social work, elementary education, higher education. In the federal government they control the parks department, the BLM, the National Forest Service, NOAA, teh department of Health and Human Services, the Education Department, the EPA.

You are kidding yourself if you think they will be satisfied with rolling back the trump edicts, they will be aggressive to take new ground after the next election. Family rights, 2nd amendment, free speech, religious liberty will all fall victim to the next president.

Stop trying to go back to the 80's or even the 90's, this is your new reality. Get used to it, or pray for divine intervention.
Or you can do something about it. Prepare your household to resist these changes by not being beholden.

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So far batons, pepper spray, M80's and fists have been deployed. And one or two incidents with knives. Both groups are arming themselves to greater levels these days.
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They already are. Anyone who thinks that by having a majority, the right will have the brass to do something, doesn't see what has happened for years upon years.

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