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Obama Killed a 16-Year-Old American in Yemen. Trump Just Killed His 8-Year-Old Sister.
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IN 2010, President Obama directed the CIA to assassinate an American citizen in Yemen, Anwar al-Awlaki, despite the fact that he had never been charged with (let alone convicted of) any crime, and the agency successfully carried out that order a year later with a September, 2011 drone strike. While that assassination created widespread debate – the once-again-beloved ACLU sued Obama to restrain him from the assassination on the ground of due process and then, when that suit was dismissed, sued Obama again after the killing was carried out – another drone-killing carried out shortly thereafter was perhaps even more significant yet generated relatively little attention.

Two weeks after the killing of Awlaki, a separate CIA drone strike in Yemen killed his 16-year-old American-born son, Abdulrahman, along with the boy’s 17-year-old cousin and several other innocent Yemenis. The U.S. eventually claimed that the boy was not their target but merely “collateral damage.” Abdulrahman’s grief-stricken grandfather, Nasser al-Awlaki, urged the Washington Post “to visit a Facebook memorial page for Abdulrahman,” which explained: “Look at his pictures, his friends, and his hobbies His Facebook page shows a typical kid.”

Few events pulled the mask off Obama officials like this one. It highlighted how the Obama administration was ravaging Yemen, one of the world’s poorest countries: just weeks after he won the Nobel Prize, Obama used cluster bombs that killed 35 Yemeni women and children. Even Obama-supporting liberal comedians mocked the Obama DOJ’s arguments for why it had the right to execute Americans with no charges: “Due Process Just Means There’s A Process That You Do,” snarked Stephen Colbert. And a firestorm erupted when former Obama Press Secretary Robert Gibbs offered a sociopathic justification for killing the Colorado-born teenager, apparently blaming him for his own killing by saying he should have “had a more responsible father.”

The U.S. assault on Yemeni civilians not only continued but radically escalated over the next five years through the end of the Obama presidency, as the U.S. and the UK armed, supported and provide crucial assistance to their close ally Saudi Arabia as it devastated Yemen through a criminally reckless bombing campaign. Yemen now faces mass starvation, seemingly exacerbated, deliberately, by the US/UK-supported air attacks. Because of the west’s direct responsibility for these atrocities, they have received vanishingly little attention in the responsible countries.

In a hideous symbol of the bipartisan continuity of U.S. barbarism, Nasser al-Awlaki just lost another one of his young grandchildren to U.S. violence. On Sunday, the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, using armed Reaper drones for cover, carried out a commando raid on what it said was a compound harboring officials of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. A statement issued by President Trump lamented the death of an American service member and several others who were wounded, but made no mention of any civilian deaths. U.S. military officials initially denied any civilian deaths, and (therefore) the CNN report on the raid said nothing about any civilians being killed.

But reports from Yemen quickly surfaced that 30 people were killed, including 10 women and children. Among the dead: the 8-year-old granddaughter of Nasser al-Awlaki, Nawar, who was also the daughter of Anwar Awlaki.

As noted by my colleague Jeremy Scahill – who extensively interviewed the grandparents in Yemen for his book and film on Obama’s “Dirty Wars” – the girl was “was shot in the neck and killed,” bleeding to death over the course of two hours. “Why kill children?,” the grandfather asked. “This is the new (U.S.) administration – it’s very sad, a big crime.”

The New York Times yesterday reported that military officials had been planning and debating the raid for months under the Obama administration, but Obama officials decided to leave the choice to Trump. The new President personally authorized the attack last week. They claim that the “main target” of the raid “was computer materials inside the house that could contain clues about future terrorist plots.” The paper cited a Yemeni official saying that “at least eight women and seven children, ages 3 to 13, had been killed in the raid,” and that the attack also “severely damaged a school, a health facility and a mosque.”

As my colleague Matthew Cole reported in great detail just weeks ago, Navy Seal Team 6, for all its public glory, has a long history of “‘revenge ops,’ unjustified killings, mutilations, and other atrocities.” And Trump notoriously vowed during the campaign to target not only terrorists but also their families. All of that demands aggressive, independent inquiries into this operation.

Perhaps most tragic of all is that – just as was true in Iraq – Al Qaeda had very little presence in Yemen before the Obama administration began bombing and droning it and killing civilians, thus driving people into the arms of the militant group. As the late, young Yemeni writer Ibrahim Mothana told Congress in 2013:
Drone strikes are causing more and more Yemenis to hate America and join radical militants . . . Unfortunately, liberal voices in the United States are largely ignoring, if not condoning, civilian deaths and extrajudicial killings in Yemen.

During George W. Bush’s presidency, the rage would have been tremendous. But today there is little outcry, even though what is happening is in many ways an escalation of Mr. Bush’s policies. . . .

Defenders of human rights must speak out. America’s counterterrorism policy here is not only making Yemen less safe by strengthening support for A.Q.A.P. [al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula] but it could also ultimately endanger the United States and the entire world.
This is why it is crucial that – as urgent and valid protests erupt against Trump’s abuses – we not permit recent history to be whitewashed, or long-standing U.S. savagery to be deceitfully depicted as new Trumpian aberrations, or the War on Terror framework engendering these new assaults to be forgotten. Some current abuses are unique to Trump, but – as I detailed on Saturday – some are the decades-old by-product of a mindset and system of war and executive powers that all need uprooting. Obscuring these facts, or allowing those responsible to posture as opponents of all this, is not just misleading but counter-productive: much of this resides on an odious continuum and did not just appear out of nowhere.

It’s genuinely inspiring to see pervasive rage over the banning of visa-holders and refugees from countries like Yemen. But it’s also infuriating that the U.S. continues to massacre Yemeni civilians, both directly and through its tyrannical Saudi partners. That does not become less infuriating – Yemeni civilians are not less dead – because these policies and the war theories in which they are rooted began before the inauguration of Donald Trump. It’s not just Trump but this mentality and framework that needs vehement opposition.

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This is a terrible loss and whatever policy that allowed it to happen needs to stop. I know our country would not allow this to happen to its citizens.

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Look at ww2s bombings, there will always be civilian casualties in war/bombings

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Different wrote:Look at ww2s bombings, there will always be civilian casualties in war/bombings
We're not at war. Some groups claim they're at war with us, but we don't have a declared war anywhere. We should bring our troops home. We're now the bad guys all over the world because we've decided that 9/11 gives us the right to kill anywhere we can construct a threat, which means anywhere.

Bring troops home. Defend our country until we have a war to declare.

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skmo wrote:
Different wrote:Look at ww2s bombings, there will always be civilian casualties in war/bombings
We're not at war. Some groups claim they're at war with us, but we don't have a declared war anywhere. We should bring our troops home. We're now the bad guys all over the world because we've decided that 9/11 gives us the right to kill anywhere we can construct a threat, which means anywhere.

Bring troops home. Defend our country until we have a war to declare.
Thats why I said when at war or when bombing.

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skmo wrote:
Different wrote:Look at ww2s bombings, there will always be civilian casualties in war/bombings
We're not at war. Some groups claim they're at war with us, but we don't have a declared war anywhere. We should bring our troops home. We're now the bad guys all over the world because we've decided that 9/11 gives us the right to kill anywhere we can construct a threat, which means anywhere.

Bring troops home. Defend our country until we have a war to declare.

I'm just making a point whether the bombing was justified or not that civilians usually always tend to die.

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Different wrote:I'm just making a point whether the bombing was justified or not that civilians usually always tend to die.
True. In the Vietnam War some 2 Million civilians died. In WWII, close to 50 Million civilians died.

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skmo wrote:
Different wrote:I'm just making a point whether the bombing was justified or not that civilians usually always tend to die.
True. In the Vietnam War some 2 Million civilians died. In WWII, close to 50 Million civilians died.
Yeah its sad:( but it happens

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FOUR MORE YEARS OF BUSH-OBAMA, AND MAYBE WORSE
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by Jacob G. Hornberger
January 31, 2017

The verdict is in. After 16 years of death and destruction in the Middle East and Afghanistan at the hands of the U.S. national-security establishment, America is now facing four more years of the same.

How do we know this? Because President Trump has now clearly signaled that he intends to travel the Bush-Obama road.

First of all, there is the Muslim ban on those seven countries with predominantly Muslim populations. Trump says that he is imposing the ban to keep Americans safe from terrorists who would do American harm if they were permitted to enter the United States.

Second, there is a total disconnect in Trump’s mind as to the cause of anti-American terrorism, especially among Muslims. He has made it clear that his mindset is the same as that of Bush and Obama — that the terrorists just hate us for our freedom and values and that U.S interventionism has nothing to do with anti-American terrorism.

In fact, with Trump it’s actually worse than it was with Bush and Obama. While they tried to threat the needle and claim that their interventions were aimed at “the terrorists” or “extreme Muslims,” Trump has clearly bought into the whole “Islam is at war with the West” paradigm that afflicts the most extreme elements in American society.

One thing is for sure: Like Bush and Obama, Trump is mentally and psychologically unable to recognize that the real cause for anger and hatred against the United States, especially among Muslims, is the massive death and destruction that the U.S. national-security state has wreaked and continues to wreak in the Middle East.

In fact, that inability to recognize the U.S. government as the root cause of the anger and hatred that manifests itself in anti-American terrorism afflicts many more people than Trump, Bush, and Obama. It also afflicts the U.S. mainstream media, the political left, and conservatives.

Consider all those protests against Trump’s immigration ban. Look at the signs the protestors are carrying. They’re all about the immigration ban. I haven’t seen one single sign protesting Trump’s continuation of Bush-Obama interventionism in the Middle East.

In fact, it’s the exact opposite. Virtually every editorial and op-ed in the mainstream media dutifully follows the Bush-Obama-Trump line — that ISIS is so dangerous that it is necessary for the U.S. government to continue intervening in the Middle East and wreaking perpetual death and destruction.

Unfortunately, Trump has immediately fallen into the Pentagon’s and CIA’s war on terrorism quicksand. Within the first week of taking power, he approved a military raid in Yemen (yes, Yemen!) presented by to him by the U.S. national-security establishment that resulted in the deaths of two American citizens: 36-year-old Chief Petty Officer William “Ryan” Owens a U.S. serviceman and Nawar al-Awlaki (take a look at her picture — it’s important to see what this little girl who just had her life snuffed out looked like). She was the 8-year-old daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, the American citizen that the U.S. national-security establishment assassinated without benefit of due process of law and trial by jury six year ago. You will recall that the U.S. national-security establishment also assassinated Newar’s brother, 16-year-old son, Abdulrahman, in 2011.

They weren’t the only ones killed in the latest raid in Yemen. U.S. officials estimated that 14 al-Qaeda (remember them?) militants were killed. Yemenis claimed that the dead including 59 combatants and civilians, including women.

The aim of the raid? According to the UK Mirror, “A senior military official told NBC News the aim of the raid was to seize intelligence, including computer equipment.”

So, there you have it: Death and destruction in Yemen, a country that Congress has not declare war against, on orders of President Donald Trump, with the aim of grabbing some computers belong to al-Qaeda (which was the national-security state’s official enemy before ISIS), that might have some “intelligence” in them.

That’s what 9-year-old Nawar al-Awlaki died for. That’s what Petty Officer Owens died for. Like the 58,000 plus U.S. soldiers who were sacrificed in Vietnam, that 8-year-old American girl and that 36-year-old American man died for nothing.

Let’s be clear: ISIS is not coming to get us. Neither is al-Qaeda. The same for the dictators of Syria, Yemen, Libya, and the other seven countries on Trump’s Muslim ban list. The same for the Islamic dictators of Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, or Afghanistan. The same for the people trying to overthrow those dictators.

None of those people is coming to get us, take over the federal government, and run the IRS and HUD. The conflicts over there are about who is going to rule the Middle East and Afghanistan. Whoever prevails is not coming to get us and take over the United States.

In fact, make no mistake about it: most of the violence, chaos, and disorder in the Middle East are rooted in U.S interventionism in that part of the world. For example, ISIS, the national-security state’s newest official boogeyman, is a direct result of the U.S. illegal and unconstitutional war of aggression against Iraq, a country that never attacked the United States or even threatened to do so.

There is one and only one reason that people of Muslim faith engage in anti-American terrorism: They are retaliating against the U.S. government and the American people for the death and destruction that the Pentagon and the CIA have been wreaking and continue to wreak on Muslims and others in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

What is both pathetic and sad is that Trump has already announced, within one week of assuming power, is that he intends to continue unleashing the Pentagon and the CIA to do what they have been doing for the past 16 years of Bush and Obama. He has also announced that he intends to build up the military establishment, thereby enabling it to wreak even more death and destruction around the world.

That’s why Trump imposed his Muslim ban: He’s essentially saying to the American people: “Get ready. We’re going to continue bombing and assassinating people as part of our war against ISIS but don’t worry — I’ll keep you safe from the inevitable retaliation with my Muslim ban.”

It’s not going to work. As I have repeatedly asked, Can they keep everyone in shopping malls and office buildings safe from bombs and shooters? Can they put metal detectors everywhere? Just ask the families of victims from terrorist attacks here in the United States or in Europe. And how do they purport to protect American tourists traveling in Europe and elsewhere?

It’s really too bad. All that Trump had to do is pull the troops out of the Middle East and Afghanistan and bring them home, immediately, without killing one more person, including 8-year-old Nawar al-Awlaki. That would have meant the end of anti-American terrorism, which would have meant no more war on terrorism, including Trump’s Muslim ban.

But then again, that also would have meant a severe diminution in the power, influence, and taxpayer-funded resources of the U.S. national-security establishment, which is the undoubtedly the biggest reason why Trump has now chosen to travel the 16-year-old road of death and destruction, loss of liberty, and out-of-control federal spending of George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

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Different wrote:Look at ww2s bombings, there will always be civilian casualties in war/bombings
I've heard this statement over the years and it reeks of evil.

How is it we can so casually excuse thousands of deaths at our hands as 'accidental'?

If we would get out of their country, and mind our own business they wouldn't be happening. If you are never responsible for the killing, never have to stop - gee it was all an accident.

And I suppose when China bombs us and accidentally kill your kids, you won't have a problem?

We just can't figure out why there are terrorists - while we keep accidentally killing their kids, brothers or sisters.

Or accidentally killed half million or so Iraqi kids with our sanctions:

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djinwa wrote:
Different wrote:Look at ww2s bombings, there will always be civilian casualties in war/bombings
I've heard this statement over the years and it reeks of evil.

How is it we can so casually excuse thousands of deaths at our hands as 'accidental'?

If we would get out of their country, and mind our own business they wouldn't be happening. If you are never responsible for the killing, never have to stop - gee it was all an accident.

And I suppose when China bombs us and accidentally kill your kids, you won't have a problem?

We just can't figure out why there are terrorists - while we keep accidentally killing their kids, brothers or sisters.

Or accidentally killed half million or so Iraqi kids with our sanctions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It is no accident, we knew it would happen its the costs of war. And appeasement doesnt work forever. Whether you believe it is justified or not it doesn't matter. I don't see why you say its an accident, war is hell horrific things happen. If we were ever bombed you have to learn and accept that lots of death occurs in war on militants and civilian counter parts. Yes its sad, but thats just how it is usually

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