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Putin "Checkmates" Obama

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And confirms to be the only adult in the room.

Putin Invites All Children of US Diplomats in Russia to the New Year and Christmas Children’s Parties in the Kremlin
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Statement by the President of Russia in response to Obama's new sanctions including the expulsion of diplomats:

December 30, 2016 15:15

We regard the recent unfriendly steps taken by the outgoing US administration as provocative and aimed at further weakening the Russia-US relationship. This runs contrary to the fundamental interests of both the Russian and American people. Considering the global security responsibilities of Russia and the United States, this is also damaging to international relations as a whole.

As it proceeds from international practice, Russia has reasons to respond in kind. Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration.

The diplomats who are returning to Russia will spend the New Year’s holidays with their families and friends. We will not create any problems for US diplomats. We will not expel anyone. We will not prevent their families and children from using their traditional leisure sites during the New Year’s holidays. Moreover, I invite all children of US diplomats accredited in Russia to the New Year and Christmas children’s parties in the Kremlin.

It is regrettable that the Obama Administration is ending its term in this manner. Nevertheless, I offer my New Year greetings to President Obama and his family.

My season’s greetings also to President-elect Donald Trump and the American people.

I wish all of you happiness and prosperity.
Putin Stunner: "We Will Not Expel Anyone; We Refuse To Sink To 'Kitchen' Diplomacy"
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Vladimir the merciful?

Following this morning's reports that Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov would recommend to Russian President Vladimir Putin a retaliation in kind, and expel 35 American diplomats, saying that “we cannot leave such acts unanswered. Reciprocity is part of diplomatic law" with Putin spokesman Peskov adding that "there is no doubt that Russia's adequate and mirror response will make Washington officials feel very uncomfortable as well", it was ultimately up to Putin to decide how to respond to the US.

Which he did on Friday morning, when in a stunning reversal, the Russian leader took the high road, rejected the Lavrov proposal, and in a statement posted by the Kremlin said that Russia won’t expel any Americans in retaliation to US moves, in a brutal demonstration of just how irrelevant Obama's 11th hour decision is for US-Russian relations.

The reversal comes as Russian officials portrayed U.S. sanctions as a last act of a lame-duck president and suggested that Trump could reverse them when he takes over the White House in January.

Earlier Russian Prime Minster Dmitry Medvedev said the Obama administration was ending its term in "anti-Russia death throes."

"It is regrettable that the Obama administration, which started out by restoring our ties, is ending its term in an anti-Russia death throes. RIP," Medvedev, who served as president in 2009 when Obama tried to improve Russia-U.S. relations, wrote on his official Facebook page.

In the just released statement, Putin laughed off Obama's 11th hour temper tantrum, and said that Russia won’t cause problems to U.S. diplomats or deport anyone, adding that Russia has the right to respond in tit-for-tat manner, but it will not engage in irresponsible diplomacy.

The punchline, however, was saved for what may be Russia's final slam of the debacle that is Obama's administration saying that "It’s a pity that the current U.S. administration is finishing their work in such a manner" saying that Russia refuses "to sink to the level of this irresponsible "kitchen" diplomacy."

Putin ended the statement by congratulating U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, and the American people on the New Year and invited the hildren of US diplomats to a holiday celebration at the Kremlin.

From the full statement posted on the Kremlin website:
Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration.
And with that one statement, Obama lost the diplomatic war with Russia.

In other news, the Kremlin said it will send a government plane to the US to evacuate the expelled diplomats and their family members. Earlier, there were reports that the diplomats were having problems buying tickets on such short notice, with airlines already booked by New Year’s travelers.

Full Putin statement below:
We regard the recent unfriendly steps taken by the outgoing US administration as provocative and aimed at further weakening the Russia-US relationship. This runs contrary to the fundamental interests of both the Russian and American people. Considering the global security responsibilities of Russia and the United States, this is also damaging to international relations as a whole.

As it proceeds from international practice, Russia has reasons to respond in kind. Although we have the right to retaliate, we will not resort to irresponsible ‘kitchen’ diplomacy but will plan our further steps to restore Russian-US relations based on the policies of the Trump Administration.

The diplomats who are returning to Russia will spend the New Year’s holidays with their families and friends. We will not create any problems for US diplomats. We will not expel anyone. We will not prevent their families and children from using their traditional leisure sites during the New Year’s holidays. Moreover, I invite all children of US diplomats accredited in Russia to the New Year and Christmas children’s parties in the Kremlin.

It is regrettable that the Obama Administration is ending its term in this manner. Nevertheless, I offer my New Year greetings to President Obama and his family.
My season’s greetings also to President-elect Donald Trump and the American people.

I wish all of you happiness and prosperity.

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Obama is a turd. Is that OK to say here?

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Shimdidly wrote:Obama is a turd. Is that OK to say here?

Yes, but that really doesn't go nearly far enough!

Obama went low, Putin went high. Putin is good at showing the world what a petulant child obama is.

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paulrobots wrote:
Shimdidly wrote:Obama is a turd. Is that OK to say here?

Yes, but that really doesn't go nearly far enough!

Obama went low, Putin went high. Putin is good at showing the world what a petulant child obama is.
Brilliant reply by Putin. Another version of this can be found here: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ore-126448" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, which also contains the tweet reactions from Trump and Nigel Farage on Putin's adult response to Obama.

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Following is Putin's Christmas speech, wherein he criticizes Western countries for abandoning their Christian Roots, located here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-2 ... ies-abando" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; .

The lead in:
If you've ever wondered why Putin appeals to so many stable minded people in the United States, look no further than this speech where the Russian leader lays into Euro-Atlantic nations for abandoning its Christian roots, placing homosexual relationships on the same level as families, fomenting an environment for paedophilia and creating an atmosphere which will eventually lead to the degradation of civility -- leading to the loss of dignity.

Powerful stuff.
Here is the link and representation of the YouTube presentation: https://youtu.be/7wDW_3FGAQY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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paulrobots wrote:
Shimdidly wrote:Obama is a turd. Is that OK to say here?

Yes, but that really doesn't go nearly far enough!

Obama went low, Putin went high. Putin is good at showing the world what a petulant child obama is.
The UK Russian Embassy upped the ante:
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My take on the situation as a whole is that while it's true that we don't want foreign entities controlling the outcome of our elections, if (and it is just an "IF" at the moment) the Russians were involved in FABRICATING security breaches, I see reason to be concerned. However, if they just uncovered facts hidden by government officials operating outside of the law, I'm more concerned about our own government believing itself to be above the law.

As the left is so fond of saying, if they haven't done anything wrong, they have nothing to hide. Well, obviously the hildabeast has a LOT to hide.

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I wonder if Ether 8's declaration that the secret combinations would take away the freedom of all nations applies equally to Russia. We know the demise of the Soviet Union was a sham which leaves me to believe that Russia is no better or better off than the US when it comes to the matter of individual liberty.

Just like so many were overjoyed because Trump beat the Hildabeast (gosh, anybody but her!!!), there seems to be some sort of excessive pleasure in seeing Putin embarrass Obama ('cause he's the worst president EVER!!!). The current chess match seems to be designed to make Trump look like some kind of political genius so more conservatives will allow him to rule by executive order when he finally sets up shop in the Oval Office.

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Silver wrote:I wonder if Ether 8's declaration that the secret combinations would take away the freedom of all nations applies equally to Russia. We know the demise of the Soviet Union was a sham which leaves me to believe that Russia is no better or better off than the US when it comes to the matter of individual liberty.

Just like so many were overjoyed because Trump beat the Hildabeast (gosh, anybody but her!!!), there seems to be some sort of excessive pleasure in seeing Putin embarrass Obama ('cause he's the worst president EVER!!!). The current chess match seems to be designed to make Trump look like some kind of political genius so more conservatives will allow him to rule by executive order when he finally sets up shop in the Oval Office.
Putin isn't trying to steal the liberties of people in the USA.

Putin is not facilitating the head-choppers whow have been terrorizing the people of Syria and Iraq.

Putin is not an enemy of Christian principles.

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Fiannan wrote:
Silver wrote:I wonder if Ether 8's declaration that the secret combinations would take away the freedom of all nations applies equally to Russia. We know the demise of the Soviet Union was a sham which leaves me to believe that Russia is no better or better off than the US when it comes to the matter of individual liberty.

Just like so many were overjoyed because Trump beat the Hildabeast (gosh, anybody but her!!!), there seems to be some sort of excessive pleasure in seeing Putin embarrass Obama ('cause he's the worst president EVER!!!). The current chess match seems to be designed to make Trump look like some kind of political genius so more conservatives will allow him to rule by executive order when he finally sets up shop in the Oval Office.
1. Putin isn't trying to steal the liberties of people in the USA.

2. Putin is not facilitating the head-choppers who have been terrorizing the people of Syria and Iraq.

3. Putin is not an enemy of Christian principles.
You're right on points 1 & 2. Can you prove your 3rd point? Putin was KGB. You think they were a bunch of church-going guys and gals who memorized scriptures?

Here's how I scored you as being "correct" on #1 & #2:
1. Because he's plenty busy taking away the liberties of his own people.
2. Because he likes having the toe-hold in the Mediterranean provided to Russia at Tartus by the Assad government. He's looking after Russian "national interests" just like America sticks its nose into the affairs of other sovereign countries because we are big enough to do so...or at least we think we are. So Putin is supporting Assad and bombing ISIS, Al-Nusra, etc. only because it helps him and Russia to do so.

You might not understand my point about Ether 8. I'm not saying that Putin is trying to take away the freedom of all nations. My point is that the modern day Gadiantons to whom Trump and Putin and Obama pay obeisance, are doing that. Pawns like the national leaders are just for show.

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Silver wrote:I wonder if Ether 8's declaration that the secret combinations would take away the freedom of all nations applies equally to Russia. We know the demise of the Soviet Union was a sham which leaves me to believe that Russia is no better or better off than the US when it comes to the matter of individual liberty.

Just like so many were overjoyed because Trump beat the Hildabeast (gosh, anybody but her!!!), there seems to be some sort of excessive pleasure in seeing Putin embarrass Obama ('cause he's the worst president EVER!!!). The current chess match seems to be designed to make Trump look like some kind of political genius so more conservatives will allow him to rule by executive order when he finally sets up shop in the Oval Office.

Obama is protecting the democrat party, not the US by his sanctions on Russia and the continual drumbeat that the Russians hacked the election. Obama is solely responsible for the demise of the democrats and he is using everything within his grasp to salvage the party. His actions have nothing to do with Trump or the US. Democrats lost in every level this election cycle and they just can't accept the facts that socialism is a dying ideology.

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Silver wrote:I wonder if Ether 8's declaration that the secret combinations would take away the freedom of all nations applies equally to Russia. We know the demise of the Soviet Union was a sham which leaves me to believe that Russia is no better or better off than the US when it comes to the matter of individual liberty.

Just like so many were overjoyed because Trump beat the Hildabeast (gosh, anybody but her!!!), there seems to be some sort of excessive pleasure in seeing Putin embarrass Obama ('cause he's the worst president EVER!!!). The current chess match seems to be designed to make Trump look like some kind of political genius so more conservatives will allow him to rule by executive order when he finally sets up shop in the Oval Office.
They are had among all nations, and among all people. The Russians have their own SCs too.

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Benjamin_LK wrote:
Silver wrote:I wonder if Ether 8's declaration that the secret combinations would take away the freedom of all nations applies equally to Russia. We know the demise of the Soviet Union was a sham which leaves me to believe that Russia is no better or better off than the US when it comes to the matter of individual liberty.

Just like so many were overjoyed because Trump beat the Hildabeast (gosh, anybody but her!!!), there seems to be some sort of excessive pleasure in seeing Putin embarrass Obama ('cause he's the worst president EVER!!!). The current chess match seems to be designed to make Trump look like some kind of political genius so more conservatives will allow him to rule by executive order when he finally sets up shop in the Oval Office.
They are had among all nations, and among all people. The Russians have their own SCs too.
You are so right. Yet there is one overarching combination which seeks to take away the freedom of all nations. We know who is the head of it.

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Silver wrote:I wonder if Ether 8's declaration that the secret combinations would take away the freedom of all nations applies equally to Russia. We know the demise of the Soviet Union was a sham which leaves me to believe that Russia is no better or better off than the US when it comes to the matter of individual liberty.

Just like so many were overjoyed because Trump beat the Hildabeast (gosh, anybody but her!!!), there seems to be some sort of excessive pleasure in seeing Putin embarrass Obama ('cause he's the worst president EVER!!!). The current chess match seems to be designed to make Trump look like some kind of political genius so more conservatives will allow him to rule by executive order when he finally sets up shop in the Oval Office.

You read far too much into it.
Trump cannot and did not cause Obama and his anti American lunacy. And his effort to destroy the US. And Christianity. Obama does all his idiocy on his own. The Beast destroyed herself, except for all the looney toons that are still crying 'cause she lost.
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David13 wrote:The Beast destroyed herself, except for all the looney toons that are still crying 'cause she lost.
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And HOLY COW are there a lot of them!

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Silver wrote:
Fiannan wrote:
Silver wrote:I wonder if Ether 8's declaration that the secret combinations would take away the freedom of all nations applies equally to Russia. We know the demise of the Soviet Union was a sham which leaves me to believe that Russia is no better or better off than the US when it comes to the matter of individual liberty.

Just like so many were overjoyed because Trump beat the Hildabeast (gosh, anybody but her!!!), there seems to be some sort of excessive pleasure in seeing Putin embarrass Obama ('cause he's the worst president EVER!!!). The current chess match seems to be designed to make Trump look like some kind of political genius so more conservatives will allow him to rule by executive order when he finally sets up shop in the Oval Office.
1. Putin isn't trying to steal the liberties of people in the USA.

2. Putin is not facilitating the head-choppers who have been terrorizing the people of Syria and Iraq.

3. Putin is not an enemy of Christian principles.
You're right on points 1 & 2. Can you prove your 3rd point? Putin was KGB. You think they were a bunch of church-going guys and gals who memorized scriptures?

Here's how I scored you as being "correct" on #1 & #2:
1. Because he's plenty busy taking away the liberties of his own people.
2. Because he likes having the toe-hold in the Mediterranean provided to Russia at Tartus by the Assad government. He's looking after Russian "national interests" just like America sticks its nose into the affairs of other sovereign countries because we are big enough to do so...or at least we think we are. So Putin is supporting Assad and bombing ISIS, Al-Nusra, etc. only because it helps him and Russia to do so.

You might not understand my point about Ether 8. I'm not saying that Putin is trying to take away the freedom of all nations. My point is that the modern day Gadiantons to whom Trump and Putin and Obama pay obeisance, are doing that. Pawns like the national leaders are just for show.
A lot of shaky assumptions in this set of assertions.

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