Look who is knocking at Trump's door

[iWriteStuff]

Who approached who here? Did Trump call Romney? Did Romney call Trump? Just wondering if that is really known. Everybody here has already decided, apparently. Curious...but not unexpected.

Any of you ever read Team of Rivals? Great read. Lincoln surrounded himself with former adversaries. Not a dumb strategy.

Ironically, that's the book I'm reading right now! How funny.

Yeah, Lincoln asked men (Seward, Chase, Bates - all former opponents) to serve in his cabinet who had directly opposed him, called him names, disagreed with him on just about everything.... But still, they were the best men for the job and he knew he would need their help. Turns out he did - without the best men in the job, the Union would have fallen apart and the country with it.

I wonder if maybe Trump realizes the same. This ain't no run of the mill job, and it takes the best people to make it work well. Especially over the next four years. And if he wants to be re-elected, he's going to need to really impress the moderates.

Anyone wanna bet we have a market crash coming before January 20, 2017?

[Benjamin_LK]

Unless, Trump accepted the meeting request just so he could rub it in. I'm not totally pessimistic about Trump. I never thought he'd shown himself to be an upstanding guy, and for that reason I was very torn about him getting the Republican nomination. But at some point this scripture kept coming into my head:

10 And after that he had established himself king he did ease the burden of the people, by which he did gain favor in the eyes of the people, and they did anoint him to be their king.

11 And he did do justice unto the people, but not unto himself because of his many whoredoms; wherefore he was cut off from the presence of the Lord.

12 And it came to pass that Morianton built up many cities, and the people became exceedingly rich under his reign, both in buildings, and in gold and silver, and in raising grain, and in flocks, and herds, and such things which had been restored unto them.

In other words, we have an example of someone, who had not been personally righteous, who had been a good leader. I began to hope that Trump might be that person too.

We need whomever it is in Congress and the White House to put a serious effort into the employment situation, because we've been screwed over by the past many years.

[ebenezerarise]

I kind of pity Romney and Trump in this. Regardless of whatever it is they do, there will be harsh criticism.

If Romney ends up outside of the administration they will accuse Trump of just talking to him for show or of Romney being a stick-in-the-mud for not "doing his duty".

If Romney does take a position -- and I'm inclined to think it would be Treasury as much as State, by the way -- then he's a fraud, a sell out and all that loser talk by Trump will discredit him too.

Totally no win.

Shocked Gingrich won't be in the administration. Or Christie (maybe not as shocked). And Giuliani suddenly looks to be shut out too.

I wonder if Trump has heard of Mike Leavitt?

[Bronco73idi]

Who approached who here? Did Trump call Romney? Did Romney call Trump? Just wondering if that is really known. Everybody here has already decided, apparently. Curious...but not unexpected.

Any of you ever read Team of Rivals? Great read. Lincoln surrounded himself with former adversaries. Not a dumb strategy.

Ironically, that's the book I'm reading right now! How funny.

Yeah, Lincoln asked men (Seward, Chase, Bates - all former opponents) to serve in his cabinet who had directly opposed him, called him names, disagreed with him on just about everything.... But still, they were the best men for the job and he knew he would need their help. Turns out he did - without the best men in the job, the Union would have fallen apart and the country with it.

I wonder if maybe Trump realizes the same. This ain't no run of the mill job, and it takes the best people to make it work well. Especially over the next four years. And if he wants to be re-elected, he's going to need to really impress the moderates.

Anyone wanna bet we have a market crash coming before January 20, 2017?

So you are saying we are headed for our second civil war??? :(( You just jinked us @-)

[Ezra]

Who approached who here? Did Trump call Romney? Did Romney call Trump? Just wondering if that is really known. Everybody here has already decided, apparently. Curious...but not unexpected.

Any of you ever read Team of Rivals? Great read. Lincoln surrounded himself with former adversaries. Not a dumb strategy.

Ironically, that's the book I'm reading right now! How funny.

Yeah, Lincoln asked men (Seward, Chase, Bates - all former opponents) to serve in his cabinet who had directly opposed him, called him names, disagreed with him on just about everything.... But still, they were the best men for the job and he knew he would need their help. Turns out he did - without the best men in the job, the Union would have fallen apart and the country with it.

I wonder if maybe Trump realizes the same. This ain't no run of the mill job, and it takes the best people to make it work well. Especially over the next four years. And if he wants to be re-elected, he's going to need to really impress the moderates.

Anyone wanna bet we have a market crash coming before January 20, 2017?

If the best men are required how did he get elected?
Wouldn't the best men be ones that are constitutional?

It would be great to see constitutional god fearing people. Romney is not constitutional.

I wonder if Lincoln assassination was helped by his decision to have his opponents in his cabinet.

By the way. The union didn't need saving. The constitution needed followed which is why the union was breaking.
Doing more of the same is just more insanity we continue to follow.

[skmo]

What a farce... Trump backs Mitt in 2012, Mitt trashes Trump for 2016, Trump is elected President and now Mitt wants an in with the guy to satisfy his thirst for political power? Nauseating.

Did Mitt seek the guy out to ask for a position? If so, that would show your accusatory assertion to be correct. If not, it has several possibilities from a power-hungry politician to a person who believes in the country and wants to serve. I've not been a real fan of Romney's, even though I think he's a lot better guy than many of the politicians we have today, but I'm surprised at the level of vitriol I've seen for him here on these boards.

[Benjamin_LK]

I think Secretary of State would actually be a good position for Romney. Hillary was Obama's Secretary of State and in a way, the position does more than the Vice President. I watched the interview with Trump on 60 Minutes. He seems open to negotiation, is forgiving but wants to be a strong leader which means having strong supporting government. I think Trump knows that despite their differences during the campaign, having Romney on the team is a good thing.

Only if Mitt can drop his war mongering stance.

Unless Trump wants someone who will not be a yes man. Seward gave Lincoln some insane ideas like invading Europe to encourage the seceding states to come back. Lincoln still made the right decision in spite of Seward's crazy advice. I see Trump as likely the same, he takes Romney for the fact that he can get an idea of what the liberal reactions or desires for his foreign policy would be.

[braingrunt]

I refuse to acknowledge the perceived inconsistency here.
First there are lots of reasons why they may have talked. The meeting only demonstrates that they agreed they had something to say and or hear.
Second, if Romney is seeking position, so what? If I was him I might give a statement like this:
"We've said some harsh things about each other. But if I"m to be maximally useful to my county, which I want to be, then I'm very glad for opportunities such as this to speak with the president elect or even serve with him if we can reach that agreement. Switching to civil discourse and open-mindedness in this situation, is of course, absolutely correct.

[Jonesy]

I think Romney would be a perfect match for Secretary of State, and I hope he gets it. Maybe that would curb the hatred that some Mormons have for Trump. Trump is a pragmatic leader and Romney is diplomatic. Perfect match! I just hope Trump is the real deal and that he can also manage the horrible backlash and division from his election. I didn't expect it to be so awful. Let's all pray we can be peacemakers at this time.

[GrandMasterB]

Trump needs Romney because Trump has zero political acumen and he knows it. Trump can't make a cohesive argument to save his life so how is he going to talk the world political language? If Trump has to meet with all these world leaders he knows he is screwed. Trump is going to follow and not lead. This is why he is bringing in these people.

[paulrobots]

Heard tonight he is the front runner. I can't believe Trump even considered him after propping up Mcmullin in Utah hoping to give the election to Hillary. Trump must be a forgive and forget guy, more than I would have thought.

Does "saving" the olympics really qualify someone to be secretary of state? :p

[larsenb]

Trump needs Romney because Trump has zero political acumen and he knows it. Trump can't make a cohesive argument to save his life so how is he going to talk the world political language? If Trump has to meet with all these world leaders he knows he is screwed. Trump is going to follow and not lead. This is why he is bringing in these people.

Gee whiz! You aren't very judgmental are you??

I think you've slipped back into your MrNasty persona.

[skmo]

Does "saving" the olympics really qualify someone to be secretary of state? :p

Why not? Helping to kill ambassadors does. Besides, what does it matter?

[David13]

Trump needs Romney because Trump has zero political acumen and he knows it. Trump can't make a cohesive argument to save his life so how is he going to talk the world political language? If Trump has to meet with all these world leaders he knows he is screwed. Trump is going to follow and not lead. This is why he is bringing in these people.

Yes, we have heard the left make that childish accusation. "Trump is stupid"!
Yes, all billionaires are stupid aren't they? That's how he has amassed his fortune, isn't it? Thru' stupidity.
All stupid people become billionaires, don't they.
You just need to get over yourself.
dc

And that's how he got elected, too, isn't it? All the voters are stupid? Or is your fantasy that Trump got elected thru' his own stupidity?

[Robin Hood]

All stupid people become billionaires.....

There's hope for me yet! ;)

[ebenezerarise]

Yes, all billionaires are stupid aren't they? That's how he has amassed his fortune, isn't it? Thru' stupidity.

I think anyone receiving a million dollar head start from Daddy back in the 1960s likely had a pretty good chance of being a billionaire.

[Robin Hood]

Yes, all billionaires are stupid aren't they? That's how he has amassed his fortune, isn't it? Thru' stupidity.

I think anyone receiving a million dollar head start from Daddy back in the 1960s likely had a pretty good chance of being a billionaire.

I read it was $14 million.

[David13]

Yes, all billionaires are stupid aren't they? That's how he has amassed his fortune, isn't it? Thru' stupidity.

I think anyone receiving a million dollar head start from Daddy back in the 1960s likely had a pretty good chance of being a billionaire.

Pure unadulterated baloney.
Absurd.
The facts show that most people who win the lottery end up broke before long. None of them know how to manage money, nor make money with money.
dc

[David13]

Yes, all billionaires are stupid aren't they? That's how he has amassed his fortune, isn't it? Thru' stupidity.

I think anyone receiving a million dollar head start from Daddy back in the 1960s likely had a pretty good chance of being a billionaire.

I read it was $14 million.

I think the important thing to realize about what ebenezerarise posts is how far off base he is. Most of them, including music artists, football and other sports pros, and others squander the money or have it scammed from them.
Ted Nugent is one exception, as he has always followed a strict policy of no drugs and no alcohol. But, nonetheless at one time ended up broke after millions was scammed from him by so called "investment specialists".

1 million or 14 million to a guy like Trump is peanuts. A handful of mustard seeds. He grew the mustard seeds. Not a lot of people can do that. Most just (basically) consume the mustard seeds.
dc