The Scary TRUTH About Donald Trump

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GradyKeyser wrote:

Good vid.

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I inherited a mess, a mess, a mess, I inherited a mess says Trump.

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GradyKeyser wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDreLyC ... e=youtu.be

We are doomed now for the greatest possible deceit of those who are capable of receiving the true message and making good decisions . Hilary could not bring the factions "division" together that is why the establishment groomed Trump from the start for this very unique moment. She is a one headed monster and Trump is a two headed monster " luke warm" double speak the worst and most dangerous kind. It appears that many of those who should know better and have been taught right knowing good from evil have fallen for this great lie, never for one moment think that the devil will relinquish his power at this crucial moment without a fight that would "not go unnoticed. " How much more evil does Trump need to be for one to be convinced he works for the dark side and is full evil works. He is the perfect " Trojen Horse" for this most critical timing where many events are coming to a head. Trump is not the lesser of two evils which many justified their vote, he is evil as evil gets, his first words are to unify and heal wounds of division exactly the opposite of what God has planned. The wicked will be divided from the righteous and is our only hope. Trump is guilty of sedition "secret combinations" he is a "Zionist" and abortionist and on a lot more than the three point loop hole abortions , he panders, donates and condones the abomination of sodomy. How much more evil can he be? we have become the wickedness nation on earth. Do not be deceived. Those who will stand with Truth and Liberty must separate from the wicked or be destroyed.
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Trump is a Con Artist and is deceiving millions with his lies and deceit. He surround's himself with gadianton henchman itching to install the New World Order, the Secret Combinations are alive and well in this administration and making huge strides towards their Utopia of World Peace. If the Sheeple would awake from their slumber and recognize this great evil they subject themselves to and stop believing there is hope in this wicked system to straiten things out there could be a chance to restore the Constitution.It is not popular to be few in number and go against the grain, but it is the easy way out and very popular to have a big following and go with the status quo.





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GradyKeyser wrote: March 5th, 2017, 8:04 am Trump is a Con Artist and is deceiving millions with his lies and deceit. He surround's himself with gadianton henchman itching to install the New World Order, the Secret Combinations are alive and well in this administration and making huge strides towards their Utopia of World Peace. If the Sheeple would awake from their slumber and recognize this great evil they subject themselves to and stop believing there is hope in this wicked system to straiten things out there could be a chance to restore the Constitution.It is not popular to be few in number and go against the grain, but it is the easy way out and very popular to have a big following and go with the status quo.
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At least people can see what types of politicians control the Democrat Party today. That is, if we share it with enough of them as the corporate media makes sure to suppress as much as it can.

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Those willing to trade Liberty for security deserve neither, both the democratic party and the republican party are in the same bed together.

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freedomforall wrote: February 14th, 2017, 3:17 pm Now imagine where we would be under Hillary.

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GradyKeyser wrote: March 5th, 2017, 9:59 am Those willing to trade Liberty for security deserve neither, both the democratic party and the republican party are in the same bed together.
Democrat http://www.dictionary.com/browse/democrat?s=t

1. an advocate of democracy.
2. a person who believes in the political or social equality of all people.

Democracy http://www.dictionary.com/browse/democracy

1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
2. a state having such a form of government: The United States and Canada are democracies.
3. a state of society characterized by formal equality of rights and privileges.
4. political or social equality; democratic spirit.
5. the common people of a community as distinguished from any privileged class; the common people with respect to their political power.

Republican http://www.dictionary.com/browse/republican?s=t

1. a person who favors a republican form of government.
2. (initial capital letter) a member of the Republican Party.

Republic http://www.dictionary.com/browse/republic

1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.
3. a state in which the head of government is not a monarch or other hereditary head of state.
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We the People: A Constitutional Republic, Not a Democracy
http://madisonproject.com/2013/09/we-th ... democracy/

Here is a slightly modified version of last year’s Constitution Day post

Today, we celebrate the 226th anniversary of the signing of the United States Constitution. On this day, it is imperative that we reflect on the importance of our constitution and celebrate the roots of our founding. As our nation comes under attack from the forces of tyranny within, we must reaffirm our commitment to the ideals of our founders and founding documents.

Most people often mistakenly refer to our nation as the greatest democracy on earth. They are mistaken because we are not an absolute democracy; we are a constitutional republic. That is what makes our nation great, for if we were merely a democracy, we would be anything but great. And to the extent that we no longer function as a constitutional republic, that greatness is rapidly ebbing away.

Why did we need a constitution? Why are popular elections not a sufficient means of preserving liberty?

A pure unbridled democracy is a political system in which the majority enjoys absolute power by means of democratic elections. In an unvarnished democracy, unrestrained by a constitution, the majority can vote to impose tyranny on themselves and the minority opposition. They can vote to elect those who will infringe upon our inalienable God-given rights. Thomas Jefferson referred to this as elected despotism in Notes on the State of Virginia (also cited in Federalist 48 by Madison):

An ELECTIVE DESPOTISM was not the government we fought for; but one which should not only be founded on free principles, but in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among several bodies of magistracy, as that no one could transcend their legal limits, without being effectually checked and restrained by the others.

Thus, a constitution that limited and divided the power of government was necessary to preclude elected officials from imposing tyranny on the people. This is why they adopted a constitution with limited enumerated power, divided and checked across several branches and levels.

Sadly, we are currently living through the paramount form of elected despotism that our founders so presciently sought to forestall. At some point during the progressive era of the early 1900′s, elected officials began to deviate from the constitution in a dramatic fashion. At present, we find all of our founding principles under assault. Many prominent political leaders in both parties seek to destroy our free markets, infringe upon our personal liberties, and abrogate our social values. Unfortunately, they have accrued a high level of success. Moreover, they have prosecuted this revolution without firing a shot. Instead, they have used the soft edge of the sword of elected despotism.

How have the elected officials been so successful in radically voiding our constitutional republic? The answer is simple. They have cynically manipulated their electoral mandate to create enough dependency for them to enjoy perennial power through democratically held elections.

We have reached the point at which almost every American is involuntarily subservient to the federal government for his or her retirement security and healthcare. Over 47 million people, and one in four children, rely upon government for food stamps. By 2014, under the new Obamacare mandates, an estimated 79 million Americans will be enrolled in Medicaid and CHIP. This circuitous cycle of dependency, perennial electoral power, and breach of constitutional restraints has transformed our nation from a constitutional republic to a majority-rule democracy.

This is the same majority-rule democracy that is being foisted upon the Middle East in the Arab Spring. Democratic elections were held in Gaza and Lebanon, and they elected tyranny. They will be held in Egypt, and they will undoubtedly do the same. In the Middle East, elected despotism will manifest itself in Islamic tyranny, while in America, it has fostered redistributive socialism. The fact that Arab nations are deposing of their dictators is meaningless. As Jefferson observed in Notes on the State of Virginia, “it will be no alleviation that these powers will be exercised by a plurality of hands, and not by a single one. 173 despots would surely be as oppressive as one.”

This form of tyranny can only succeed beyond the confines of a constitution that is preserved with vigilance – a constitution that limits the power of government and preserves our rights as granted by God. As founder John Witherspoon noted, “pure democracy cannot subsist long nor be carried far into the departments of state – it is very subject to caprice and the madness of popular rage.”

Unfortunately, even many political leaders who purport to abide by the constitution are misinterpreting the Tenth Amendment to promote tyranny on a state-level, if not on a national level. In many respects, the hard core blue states exercise even more officious nanny-state power than the federal government. Dependency is so rampant among a broad section of some of these states that nobody but those who purvey socialism can assume power. These states exemplify the worst fears of elected despotism that Jefferson decried in his writings. In fact, he was specifically addressing unbridled power at a state-level in his book.

Article 4 section 4 of the Constitution prescribes that “the United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government.” It is incumbent upon us to restore our constitution as the supreme law of the land, so that our God-given rights are not revoked by democracy.

- See more at: http://madisonproject.com/2013/09/we-th ... b5r8z.dpuf


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So, yes, the Republicans and the Democrats are in bed together, along with a HIGH share of "We The People", Americans. illegal immigrants AND many Mormons that have no clue as to the fact we are a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy.

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Sadly the Republicans no longer believe in a constitutional republic and have buried their heads deep in the sand and have sold themselves out to the highest bidder. They have no more integrity and only believe in compromise and concession. They continue to support these gadianton controlled wars and many other atrocities, blood is on their hands.

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GradyKeyser wrote: March 5th, 2017, 10:16 pm Sadly the Republicans no longer believe in a constitutional republic and have buried their heads deep in the sand and have sold themselves out to the highest bidder. They have no more integrity and only believe in compromise and concession. They continue to support these gadianton controlled wars and many other atrocities, blood is on their hands.
For your information, more than republicans supported Trump.

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eddie wrote: March 6th, 2017, 11:59 am
GradyKeyser wrote: March 5th, 2017, 10:16 pm Sadly the Republicans no longer believe in a constitutional republic and have buried their heads deep in the sand and have sold themselves out to the highest bidder. They have no more integrity and only believe in compromise and concession. They continue to support these gadianton controlled wars and many other atrocities, blood is on their hands.
For your information, more than republicans supported Trump.
Obviously, they fall for the same lie and deceit.

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GradyKeyser wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:07 pm
eddie wrote: March 6th, 2017, 11:59 am
GradyKeyser wrote: March 5th, 2017, 10:16 pm Sadly the Republicans no longer believe in a constitutional republic and have buried their heads deep in the sand and have sold themselves out to the highest bidder. They have no more integrity and only believe in compromise and concession. They continue to support these gadianton controlled wars and many other atrocities, blood is on their hands.
For your information, more than republicans supported Trump.
Obviously, they fall for the same lie and deceit.
Or visa versa.

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eddie wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:09 pm
GradyKeyser wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:07 pm
eddie wrote: March 6th, 2017, 11:59 am
GradyKeyser wrote: March 5th, 2017, 10:16 pm Sadly the Republicans no longer believe in a constitutional republic and have buried their heads deep in the sand and have sold themselves out to the highest bidder. They have no more integrity and only believe in compromise and concession. They continue to support these gadianton controlled wars and many other atrocities, blood is on their hands.
For your information, more than republicans supported Trump.
Obviously, they fall for the same lie and deceit.
Or visa versa.
America gets what it deserves a international real state mogul for pres that is in bed with the top gadiantons, wake up sheeple.

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GradyKeyser wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:21 pm
eddie wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:09 pm
GradyKeyser wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:07 pm
eddie wrote: March 6th, 2017, 11:59 am

For your information, more than republicans supported Trump.
Obviously, they fall for the same lie and deceit.
Or visa versa.
America gets what it deserves a international real state mogul for pres that is in bed with the top gadiantons, wake up sheeple.
Did anyone hear that there are empty abodes on French Polynesia for Trump haters? You know, for people that have nothing whatsoever good to say about their fellow man or spirit brothers and sisters.
I wonder if America can withstand this degree of hate coming from the minority and so-called Mormons. Makes even a cold shower seem soothing on an icy, snowy day.

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freedomforall wrote: March 6th, 2017, 7:10 pm
GradyKeyser wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:21 pm
eddie wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:09 pm
GradyKeyser wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:07 pm

Obviously, they fall for the same lie and deceit.
Or visa versa.
America gets what it deserves a international real state mogul for pres that is in bed with the top gadiantons, wake up sheeple.
Did anyone hear that there are empty abodes on French Polynesia for Trump haters? You know, for people that have nothing whatsoever good to say about their fellow man or spirit brothers and sisters.
I wonder if America can withstand this degree of hate coming from the minority and so-called Mormons. Makes even a cold shower seem soothing on an icy, snowy day.
Hate evil and cleave unto good God tell us, but man says compromise and serve two masters, stand up and be counted and forsake these evil doers.

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Message To The Sheeple ((Wake Up Sheeple))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-T0Kps ... 6W0d3VSWPK

Make No Mistake.
I will Not Compromise,
I Will Not Comply,
I will Not Submit,
I Will Not Break,
I Will Not Roll Over,
I Will Not Sit Down,
I Will Not Shut Up,
I Will Not Go Quietly,
I Will Not Give Up,
I Will Not Surrender!

I Will Stand For Truth,
I Will Protect The Innocent,

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GradyKeyser wrote: March 7th, 2017, 8:17 am Message To The Sheeple ((Wake Up Sheeple))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-T0Kps ... 6W0d3VSWPK

Make No Mistake.
I will Not Compromise, Have a driver license? Have an SS number? Pay added taxes to appease whims of others?
I Will Not Comply, Do you give an officer of the law your name and any other info they demand from you?
I will Not Submit, Do you do tax returns each year? Do you pay property taxes or is your land under allodial title?
I Will Not Break, Too late!
I Will Not Roll Over, Too late!
I Will Not Sit Down, Do you freely give information at DUI checkpoints, or border checkpoints?
I Will Not Shut Up, So true!
I Will Not Go Quietly, Do you know your Constitutional rights?
I Will Not Give Up, This is an ambiguous statement.
I Will Not Surrender! Too late!

I Will Stand For Truth, Truth is...these statements hold no water. They lack commitment and conviction.
I Will Protect The Innocent, The Hammond's and the Bundy's sure could use your support.
This, I will Not Compromise, ....or, I do not compromise?
This, I Will Not Comply, ..........or, I do not comply?
This, I will Not Submit, ...........or, I do not submit?
This, I Will Not Break, ............or, I do not break?
This, I Will Not Roll Over, ........or, I do not roll over?
This, I Will Not Shut Up, ..........or, I do not shut up?
This, I Will Not Go Quietly, .......or, I do not go quietly?
This, I Will Not Give Up, ...........or, I do not give up?
This, I Will Not Surrender! .........or, I do not surrender?
This, I Will Stand For Truth, .......or, I stand for truth?
This, I Will Protect The Innocent, or, I protect the innocent?

"I will" is weak. "I do" or "I am" shows direction and strength of character.
"I will" is wishful thinking. "I do" or "I am" is permeated with action.
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What are the left wingers going to do, start a civil war?

Candy Warren · San Antonio, Texas
I watch these ridiculous and childish tantrums, and I realize that Liberalism truly IS a mental disorder. What self-centered, pompous @#$ these people are. How do they handle anything else that does not go their way, in LIFE? We should really feel sorry for them. How many times have Conservatives NOT gotten their way? WE do not behave in that manner. I know Toddlers with more maturity, class, and good manners. Do they plan to act like this for FOUR YEARS? Since most of them have pretty short attention spans, I doubt it. I absolutely LOATHED Obama, and still do, but I did not weep, and gnash my teeth. I just decided to DO MY BEST to change things at the first opportunity. IF YOU LOSE, IT MEANS YOU NEED TO WORK HARDER.

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eddie wrote: March 7th, 2017, 8:57 pm What are the left wingers going to do, start a civil war?

Candy Warren · San Antonio, Texas
I watch these ridiculous and childish tantrums, and I realize that Liberalism truly IS a mental disorder. What self-centered, pompous @#$ these people are. How do they handle anything else that does not go their way, in LIFE? We should really feel sorry for them. How many times have Conservatives NOT gotten their way? WE do not behave in that manner. I know Toddlers with more maturity, class, and good manners. Do they plan to act like this for FOUR YEARS? Since most of them have pretty short attention spans, I doubt it. I absolutely LOATHED Obama, and still do, but I did not weep, and gnash my teeth. I just decided to DO MY BEST to change things at the first opportunity. IF YOU LOSE, IT MEANS YOU NEED TO WORK HARDER.
With new and improved forum rules, won't the squeaky wheels emitting hostility with every revolution have their way in causing disputations and discord among brethren?

16 ¶These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.



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freedomforall wrote: March 6th, 2017, 7:10 pm
GradyKeyser wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:21 pm
eddie wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:09 pm
GradyKeyser wrote: March 6th, 2017, 12:07 pm

Obviously, they fall for the same lie and deceit.
Or visa versa.
America gets what it deserves a international real state mogul for pres that is in bed with the top gadiantons, wake up sheeple.
Did anyone hear that there are empty abodes on French Polynesia for Trump haters? You know, for people that have nothing whatsoever good to say about their fellow man or spirit brothers and sisters.
I wonder if America can withstand this degree of hate coming from the minority and so-called Mormons. Makes even a cold shower seem soothing on an icy, snowy day.
I could pack them a lunch, and arrange a slow boat with lots of tissue and a psychologist who deals in anger management. These people would have a PH.D. By the time the slow boat made it to Polynesia.

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Bumpity bump...

Now that the 4 years are just about to expire in a few months. I wonder how the anti and the pro Trumpsters are feeling today.
Just a few things that have transpired, or have not transpired.
No massive amount of pedifiles were ever arrested. And personally IMHO they never will be. (Just a little dig to the Q crowd)
We are still spending trillions on illegal, corrupt, murderous foreign intervention into other countries.
Today we are spending trillions just in the past few months propping up the fake bloated corrupt system of government that we have, using the "covid-19" manmade created excuse to panic the masses. (works like a charm)
Its "patriotic" to wear a mask. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bill and or Hillary will NEVER be indicted. ( but on the slight chance they will, their money will set them free)...
Planned parenthood/free abortion is still being federally funded under the voluntary signature of the POTUS.
Believe it or not, the Catholic church has obtained over one billion, almost 2 billion in federal paycheck funding. Replacing pretty much what they have paid out in damages to victims of sexual molestation from their pedifiles priests. ( Oh Mr Q, I thought that the pedos were going to get arrested en-mass, not rewarded from the feds for their crimes, but, like Mr Trump told the Catholic leaders, " I am the best friend you have".)
At this moment Congress is negotiating another massive infusion into propping up this economy on stilts, which all are agreeing to.
Federal funding to foreign countries for abortion was supposedly stopped, which is a good thing. But why not in America?
This administration is overseeing the most massive infusion of helicopter money ever dropped from the sky since George Washington. And their not finished yet.
The SCOTUS continues on, even with Republican supposedly conservative appointees, to legislate for sodomy and vile practices. And on and on and on.
I guess I am just too negative and my blinders are on and I just cannot see the light of the new dawn that started in 2016
But hey, MAGA.....

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I didn't read every page of this ongoing and unending diatribe, but after a few pages, I see the division ... pro Trump, anti Trump, lesser of two evils, I took the road less traveled by, etc. I like the book title that Charles Barkley wrote some years back: I May Be Wrong ... But I Doubt It. With that in mind, I do NOT have all the answers but there are a few things of which I'm pretty certain.

I'm going to put the blame for where we are on the voters. Not you, individually, but the voters of yesterday and yesteryear. Voters who elected the Woodrow Wilsons and Franklin Delano Roosevelts, voters who elected radical governors (far too many to name) to say nothing of the appointed trash that is responsible for the "administrative policies" that are rubber stamped into law without the one-time benefit of legislative debate (Environmental Protection Agency, Department of Education, Department of Justice, et al.). Personally, I think Trump is doing better than most. Perfect? No, absolutely not; some of his choices have been real losers. Yes, Melania Trump--a naturalized citizen who I believe truly loves this country--is a breath of fresh air, but we didn't elect her. And the people of the administration? Some very few are good, too many or most are not ... and worse. Too many swamp rats spoil the broth. And the water won't clear until you get the pigs out of the stream. And as long as members of the Council on Foreign Relations keep getting appointed to high-level positions, it doesn't stand a chance.

Why are we where we are? Because too many of those who voted did not do their due diligence in voting or they voted for the this candidate or that candidate for the most inane of reasons: some voted for Kennedy because he was good looking, others voted for "Slick Willy" Clinton because he looked cute and still others voted for Obama because he was black. Of course, too many that voted should not have been allowed to vote because they're not constitutionally permitted to vote. Yes, there is evil out there; it's unavoidable. There are those who have been elected to office who should have never gotten a single vote. Some advocate for term limits; We the People are the term limits our Founding Fathers intended, not some arbitrary number of terms (e.g., FDR was a Communist who surrounded himself with Socialists and implemented Socialist programs, and he should have been voted out after one term of damage): if, after a term, an elected official continually aligned him- or herself with unconstitutional causes, they should have been voted out and replaced with somebody else. But, because these people flattered the voters and said things that were pleasing to the ears and made promises they could not keep (remember a chicken in every pot?), they got elected and re-elected and re-reelected, ad nauseam. In some cases--too many cases--we're still stuck with them, and they continue to cause damage. People who were once young and ideological, who had done nothing yet in their lives but said that they knew what they wanted. And the people, the voters, didn't rebuff them for their lack of experience! Instead of grilling them about the Constitution, the candidates are grilled about what they're going to do or about what the other candidate and/or incumbent did that was wrong. And today, the press is no help because, for decades, they've had a leftist agenda. They ask softball questions of their preferred candidate, and attempt to skewer good candidates. Fortunately, many have seen through the facade and charade that is the modern press and they're barely a shell of what they used to be.

So, what to do, what to do. We the People MUST learn to do our own research. We cannot rely solely on other peoples' research; yes, there are some fine people and fine organizations that do exquisite things: the John Birch Society, Judicial Watch, Family Research Council, Gun Owners of America, to name just a few, that I believe can be trusted ... and those are on a national level; you have to find their equivalents on a local level. They're great resources. But it's simply not enough. They're human and not infallible. Oh, whatever shall we do? Read Doctrine and Covenants 9:7-9 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 9?lang=eng. Remember than Oliver Cowdery took no thought other than to ask before trying to translate, and was stymied in his first (and only) attempt.
7 Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me.

8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must
  • study it out in your mind;
then you must
  • ask me if it be right,
and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.

9 But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, but you shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the thing which is wrong; therefore, you cannot write that which is sacred save it be given you from me.
We who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and who have received the Gift of the Holy Ghost ... if every member asked the same question about each candidate and each issue at election time--who or what do I vote for--then dug in and did the research to see what the candidate really stood for, who was supporting them and endorsing them or what the issue really was about and who was sponsoring it, we would ALL receive the SAME answer and could separate the wheat from the chaff. We could have a Congress full of Thomas Massies, Rand Pauls and Ron Pauls, as it should be. Instead, we have Nadlers, Pelosis, Schumers, AOCs, et al. We need to participate in the process, not merely observe and complain when things don't go our way. And posting your complaints online, unless you manage to have a popular blog, probably does little to advance the cause. Most politicians don't read blogs, it's their staffers that do the leg work. We have to write letters, make phone calls, flood their inboxes with emails advocating for that which is constitutional and morally right.

That's my contribution to this diatribe, and I'm sticking with it.

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Re: The Scary TRUTH About Donald Trump

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AnotherLDSPatriot wrote: August 3rd, 2020, 7:33 am I didn't read every page of this ongoing and unending diatribe, but after a few pages, I see the division ... pro Trump, anti Trump, lesser of two evils, I took the road less traveled by, etc. I like the book title that Charles Barkley wrote some years back: I May Be Wrong ... But I Doubt It. With that in mind, I do NOT have all the answers but there are a few things of which I'm pretty certain.

I'm going to put the blame for where we are on the voters. Not you, individually, but the voters of yesterday and yesteryear. Voters who elected the Woodrow Wilsons and Franklin Delano Roosevelts, voters who elected radical governors (far too many to name) to say nothing of the appointed trash that is responsible for the "administrative policies" that are rubber stamped into law without the one-time benefit of legislative debate (Environmental Protection Agency, Department of Education, Department of Justice, et al.). Personally, I think Trump is doing better than most. Perfect? No, absolutely not; some of his choices have been real losers. Yes, Melania Trump--a naturalized citizen who I believe truly loves this country--is a breath of fresh air, but we didn't elect her. And the people of the administration? Some very few are good, too many or most are not ... and worse. Too many swamp rats spoil the broth. And the water won't clear until you get the pigs out of the stream. And as long as members of the Council on Foreign Relations keep getting appointed to high-level positions, it doesn't stand a chance.

Why are we where we are? Because too many of those who voted did not do their due diligence in voting or they voted for the this candidate or that candidate for the most inane of reasons: some voted for Kennedy because he was good looking, others voted for "Slick Willy" Clinton because he looked cute and still others voted for Obama because he was black. Of course, too many that voted should not have been allowed to vote because they're not constitutionally permitted to vote. Yes, there is evil out there; it's unavoidable. There are those who have been elected to office who should have never gotten a single vote. Some advocate for term limits; We the People are the term limits our Founding Fathers intended, not some arbitrary number of terms (e.g., FDR was a Communist who surrounded himself with Socialists and implemented Socialist programs, and he should have been voted out after one term of damage): if, after a term, an elected official continually aligned him- or herself with unconstitutional causes, they should have been voted out and replaced with somebody else. But, because these people flattered the voters and said things that were pleasing to the ears and made promises they could not keep (remember a chicken in every pot?), they got elected and re-elected and re-reelected, ad nauseam. In some cases--too many cases--we're still stuck with them, and they continue to cause damage. People who were once young and ideological, who had done nothing yet in their lives but said that they knew what they wanted. And the people, the voters, didn't rebuff them for their lack of experience! Instead of grilling them about the Constitution, the candidates are grilled about what they're going to do or about what the other candidate and/or incumbent did that was wrong. And today, the press is no help because, for decades, they've had a leftist agenda. They ask softball questions of their preferred candidate, and attempt to skewer good candidates. Fortunately, many have seen through the facade and charade that is the modern press and they're barely a shell of what they used to be.

So, what to do, what to do. We the People MUST learn to do our own research. We cannot rely solely on other peoples' research; yes, there are some fine people and fine organizations that do exquisite things: the John Birch Society, Judicial Watch, Family Research Council, Gun Owners of America, to name just a few, that I believe can be trusted ... and those are on a national level; you have to find their equivalents on a local level. They're great resources. But it's simply not enough. They're human and not infallible. Oh, whatever shall we do? Read Doctrine and Covenants 9:7-9 https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/stu ... 9?lang=eng. Remember than Oliver Cowdery took no thought other than to ask before trying to translate, and was stymied in his first (and only) attempt.
7 Behold, you have not understood; you have supposed that I would give it unto you, when you took no thought save it was to ask me.

8 But, behold, I say unto you, that you must
  • study it out in your mind;
then you must
  • ask me if it be right,
and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.

9 But if it be not right you shall have no such feelings, but you shall have a stupor of thought that shall cause you to forget the thing which is wrong; therefore, you cannot write that which is sacred save it be given you from me.
We who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and who have received the Gift of the Holy Ghost ... if every member asked the same question about each candidate and each issue at election time--who or what do I vote for--then dug in and did the research to see what the candidate really stood for, who was supporting them and endorsing them or what the issue really was about and who was sponsoring it, we would ALL receive the SAME answer and could separate the wheat from the chaff. We could have a Congress full of Thomas Massies, Rand Pauls and Ron Pauls, as it should be. Instead, we have Nadlers, Pelosis, Schumers, AOCs, et al. We need to participate in the process, not merely observe and complain when things don't go our way. And posting your complaints online, unless you manage to have a popular blog, probably does little to advance the cause. Most politicians don't read blogs, it's their staffers that do the leg work. We have to write letters, make phone calls, flood their inboxes with emails advocating for that which is constitutional and morally right.

That's my contribution to this diatribe, and I'm sticking with it.
Every single president we have had in my lifetime (almost 60) and way beyond have systematically intentionally destroyed our country. Our country has also steadily declined in wickedness. At this point I dont care who you vote in, a corrupt populace cannot vote in a decent man. Hell, we dont even know who or what a decent man is. How in the hell do these bastards we have had for presidents even get into office. Every single one of them have "givin power to the beast".
What the hell kind of a choice is " the lesser of two evils". And they have all lusted for power. And they all have ruled for the benefit of the few rich. Then in turn got rich themselves.
All the letter writing in the world is not going to make an evil man do good. What good has petitioning done. Nothing at all.
Let's say you found a decent man, one who did not want or seek for office, like say George Washington, he would be run out on a rail before he even left the starting gate. Every single president has been manipulated for over 100 years...
I'd say the last decent president we had was Andrew Jackson, but I only say that cause Joseph figured he was decent. He definitely paid off the national debt and ran the predator evil bankers out of the system, and they attempted to kill Andrew a few times. But it didnt last to long before they got back in again sometime later after he got out.
But now they are entrenched in the system and are breaking this country.
So yes, you want a decent candidate? You will not get it, only what the "deep state" approves, period.
They play us like dumb animals, stacking the deck on both sides. And we, like "muzzled" sheep have all gone astray.

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