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"Some updates on the epic failure of socialism in oil-rich Venezuela"

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Despite having more oil reserves than Saudi Arabia, and in fact more proven oil reserves than any country in the world (8 times more than the US), oil-rich Venezuela’s economy is imploding and collapsing under the burden of socialism, and economic conditions there have deteriorated so dramatically that they probably now qualify as the “economic apocalypse” that some left-leaning economists were predicting just a few years ago would never happen in Venezuela. Some links and updates about Venezuela’s economic apocalypse appear below (a few new items have been added to the original post):

1. Here’s an overview from Investor’s Business Daily back in February, when Venezuela was still “on the brink” of economic collapse:
Like a skyscraper crane about to topple in high winds, Venezuela is teetering on the brink of a horrific economic collapse. It was brought on by one thing: socialism, taken to the hilt. Yet incredibly, neither Bernie Sanders nor his voters make this connection.

Today Venezuela, with the world’s largest oil reserves is, believe it or not, importing oil. It’s a perfect illustration of Nobel-winning economist Milton Friedman’s well known saying that if the Sahara took up socialism, there would soon be a shortage of sand. Socialism has also led to massive shortages of food, toilet paper, diapers and medicine, among many other things, all the result of state planning and currency controls and rampant inflation (see photo above of Venezuelans lining up for food). After 18 years of socialist spending, inflation has hit 720%, the IMF says. And don’t forget that Venezuela also has the world’s highest crime rate, with Caracas rated the world’s most dangerous city by the Citizens’ Council for Public Security and Criminal Justice.
2. According to a news report from PanAm News: “Hungry Venezuelans Hunt Dogs, Cats, Pigeons as Food Runs Out: Economic Crisis and Food Shortages Lead to Looting and Hunting Stray Animals.”

3. BBC reports that Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has threatened to seize factories that have stopped production, and jail their owners. Atlas Shrugged playing out in real life. (HT: Hit Squad, who points out that this is “Atlas Shrugged playing out in real life.”)

4. From a Sunday New York Times article, “Dying Infants and No Medicine: Inside Venezuela’s Failing Hospitals“:
The economic crisis in Venezuela has exploded into a public health emergency, claiming the lives of untold numbers of Venezuelans. It is just part of a larger unraveling here that has become so severe it has prompted President Nicolás Maduro to impose a state of emergency and has raised fears of a government collapse.
Hospital wards have become crucibles where the forces tearing Venezuela apart have converged. Gloves and soap have vanished from some hospitals. Often, cancer medicines are found only on the black market. There is so little electricity that the government works only two days a week to save what energy is left.
5. Bret Stephens describes socialism in his WSJ column today(emphasis mine):
Socialism is a mental poison that leads to human misery of the sort you see in the wrenching pictures [that appeared in the Sunday New York Times article above] of filthy operating rooms, broken incubators and desperate patients lying in pools of blood, dying for lack of such basics as antibiotics.

Democratic socialism—whether Chavez’s or Sanders’s—is legalized theft in the name of the people against the vilified few. It is a battle against income inequality by means of collective immiseration. It is the subjugation of private enterprise and personal autonomy to government power.
6. Here’s another part of the health care apocalypse in Venezuela, from an April article in Reason:
Over the past decade, an estimated 13,000 physicians fled the country in search of greener pastures. Cuba dispatched some of its own physicians to fill the gap, only to see them defect in turn. That’s no shock, considering that the physician father of a Venezuelan friend of mine has been reduced to accepting payment in cooking oil and other groceries.
7. As Bloomberg reported recently, Venezuela doesn’t even have enough money now to pay for the paper to print more money to keep up with its hyperinflation (which will reach 720% this year according to the IMF).

8. Looting of grocery stores has become increasingly common in Venezuela, as a result of the food shortages, watch video here.

9. In the CNN video below “Food, medicine scarce as Venezuela crisis deepens,” we learn that even though Venezuela is sitting on the world’s largest oil reserves, it can’t stock the nation’s refrigerators and can’t provide the life-saving medicine that many Venezuelans need to survive.


10. Even the New York Times editorial board today blames socialism for Venezuela’s downward spiral and economic apocalypse:
This crisis has exposed the hollow promise of the socialist policies Mr. Maduro and his predecessor, Hugo Chávez, have peddled since the late 1990s. While many Venezuelans got a taste of prosperity in better housing, subsidized food and higher wages when oil prices were high — oil accounts for roughly 96 percent of Venezuela’s exports — the government failed to build anything resembling a sustainable economy. It also failed to save when money was flowing in, which would have softened the impact of the recession that began in 2014.
The New York Times also points out that Venezuela’s apocalyptic murder rate is now about 52.2 Venezuelans per day, or one murder about every 28 minutes.

MP: Despite what maybe should have been an obvious outcome and end-game of the socialist policies of Chavez and Maduro, it’s interesting to look back at the cheer-leading being peddled by some on the left as recently as 2013 for Chavez and Venezuela’s socialism, here are two examples:

11. Writing in Salon in March 2013, David Sirota extolled “Hugo Chavez’s economic miracle.”

12. In November 2013, left-leaning economist Mark Weisbrot scolded “Venezuela haters” by claiming that “this economy is not the Greece of Latin America,” and warning the haters (aka sensible adults) that “predicting a Venezuelan apocalypse won’t make it happen.”

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2. According to a news report from PanAm News: “Hungry Venezuelans Hunt Dogs, Cats, Pigeons as Food Runs Out: Economic Crisis and Food Shortages Lead to Looting and Hunting Stray Animals.”
This part caught my eye. I was discussing firearms with a neighbor friend of mine who is also a member of the church... he wanted to know what rifle to buy for the apocalypse. His main thinking was to use it for hunting. I said if we're truly talking the apocalypse, it's too late to try and "hunt and gather" because everyone will be doing that. No better way to draw attention to yourself than bring down a deer in a forest crowded with starving hunters. Soon they'll be hunting you, too.

And now I've gotta worry about someone jumping my fence to catch and eat my dog. Lovely! :-s
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On site reportage from Venezuela by Luke Rudkowski (NY We Are Change) and Jeff Berick. Reporting on the logical result and end-point of out-of-control socialism: https://youtu.be/UOQb7Y5QVO8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; E.g., gun free zones become murder zones.

Incredible!

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Separatist wrote:Over the past decade, an estimated 13,000 physicians fled the country in search of greener pastures. Cuba dispatched some of its own physicians to fill the gap, only to see them defect in turn. That’s no shock, considering that the physician father of a Venezuelan friend of mine has been reduced to accepting payment in cooking oil and other groceries.
Food as currency? @-)

Another valuable observation about what comprises wealth and prosperity in an apocalyptic event....

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iWriteStuff wrote:And now I've gotta worry about someone jumped my fence to catch and eat my dog. Lovely! :-s
That's if you haven't eaten Fido already.

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iWriteStuff wrote:
Separatist wrote:Over the past decade, an estimated 13,000 physicians fled the country in search of greener pastures. Cuba dispatched some of its own physicians to fill the gap, only to see them defect in turn. That’s no shock, considering that the physician father of a Venezuelan friend of mine has been reduced to accepting payment in cooking oil and other groceries.
Food as currency? @-)

Another valuable observation about what comprises wealth and prosperity in an apocalyptic event....
Yeah, not sure what value your gold and silver rounds will have. Perhaps better to have bulk rice and beans.

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Gold and silver are great ways to store wealth right up until they won't buy you a meal.

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iWriteStuff wrote:And now I've gotta worry about someone jumped my fence to catch and eat my dog. Lovely! :-s
That's if you haven't eaten Fido already.
Given that my dog is a rottweiler.... She may be feeding herself on intruders for a few days :ymdevil:

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A friend of mine who lived in Tonga says dog is pretty good.

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It's getting so bad there. :ymsick:

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iWriteStuff wrote:
Separatist wrote:
2. According to a news report from PanAm News: “Hungry Venezuelans Hunt Dogs, Cats, Pigeons as Food Runs Out: Economic Crisis and Food Shortages Lead to Looting and Hunting Stray Animals.”
This part caught my eye. I was discussing firearms with a neighbor friend of mine who is also a member of the church... he wanted to know what rifle to buy for the apocalypse. His main thinking was to use it for hunting. I said if we're truly talking the apocalypse, it's too late to try and "hunt and gather" because everyone will be doing that. No better way to draw attention to yourself than bring down a deer in a forest crowded with starving hunters. Soon they'll be hunting you, too.

And now I've gotta worry about someone jumped my fence to catch and eat my dog. Lovely! :-s
This reminds me a lot of the following:

Ether 9:34:
And it came to pass that the people did follow the course of the beasts, and did devour the carcasses of them which fell by the way, until they had devoured them all.

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EdGoble wrote:
iWriteStuff wrote:
Separatist wrote:
2. According to a news report from PanAm News: “Hungry Venezuelans Hunt Dogs, Cats, Pigeons as Food Runs Out: Economic Crisis and Food Shortages Lead to Looting and Hunting Stray Animals.”
This part caught my eye. I was discussing firearms with a neighbor friend of mine who is also a member of the church... he wanted to know what rifle to buy for the apocalypse. His main thinking was to use it for hunting. I said if we're truly talking the apocalypse, it's too late to try and "hunt and gather" because everyone will be doing that. No better way to draw attention to yourself than bring down a deer in a forest crowded with starving hunters. Soon they'll be hunting you, too.

And now I've gotta worry about someone jumped my fence to catch and eat my dog. Lovely! :-s
This reminds me a lot of the following:

Ether 9:34:
And it came to pass that the people did follow the course of the beasts, and did devour the carcasses of them which fell by the way, until they had devoured them all.
Interesting corollary!
You need to keep following closely what is going on in Venezuela. Any distraction, the more so if you are overseas like yours truly these days, and you may miss the gran finale.


As expected, a cornered regime has started its moves to abolish the national assembly and establish a bona fide dictatorship. It has no choice: elections are not an option for them, they cannot win them even with massive fraud. And lose they cannot because a change of government means that too many of them will go to jail.
http://daniel-venezuela.blogspot.com/20 ... zuela.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Daily Brief (not so daily but pretty good coverage nonetheless)
http://venezuelandailybrief.blogspot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Venezuela is under the thumb of banks, they are in debt bondage.

Their government, courts, cops are defacto.

Government is by banks and corporations.

Any wealth is being sucked out to empower the elite.

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dauser wrote:Venezuela is under the thumb of banks, they are in debt bondage.

Their government, courts, cops are defacto.

Government is by banks and corporations.

Any wealth is being sucked out to empower the elite.
...which the Venezuelan people figured out many years ago...and take/steal their own from power to food. Game of thieves though where nobody wins. People are finally figuring it out and running out of patience (torching the mugger last week). Oil service companies pulling out showed how desperate things were a month ago. And that was after getting to the point last November where they were exchanging hard assets for services.

Now either it will move forward in full blown dictatorship....or collapse. My bet is on the latter....

Here's another example but slightly different context -

A woman sitting on an expensive gold chair and wearing a £1,000,000 hat has encouraged Britain to “live within its means” during times of austerity while addressing a room full of millionaires.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/q ... 08843ddc40" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and another -
Time Warner Cable CEO Rob Marcus gets $92 million severance after 2.5 years on the job
http://boingboing.net/2016/05/18/time-w ... -marc.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

....thievery in action...

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All,

I have been following the Venezuelan Holocaust for years. I am also surprised that it doesn't get so much news coverage. I don't think this is some great Bankster conspiracy. This is something a lot simpler than that. Hugo Chavez came to power on the Communist/Socialist mantra of making everybody equal by taking all of the money from the rich and giving it to the poor. Venezuela had some rich and a lot of very poor people. I used to remember riding from the Caracas airport to Caracas, and seeing the unbelievable squalor of home made shacks hastily constructed on the side of the mountains, where so many desperate people lived. I also read about the times, after a rain when these shacks would be washed down the mountain, often killing the residents. It was pretty horrible. That being said, in the early 1980's life in Venezuela was still much better than many other Latin Countries I worked in where it was much worse.

Guess what! Chavez and company produced as promised. I heard it reported that Venezuela was the most equal country in the world. I looked it up, and that is not true, but it is ONE of the most equal countries in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... e_equality

And while they may not be the MOST equal country in the world, those few that beat them are similar hellholes. The only way equality is accomplished in this world is by creating equal misery. By the way, those so called Socialist utopias such as Scandinavian countries, and some people's beloved Britain...not so equal

I have long been pondering Venezuela, as how it might be a harbinger of what we may soon see and 3 things have been going through my mind

1) This is a reasonably democratic country in which the people have fairly vigorously united to democratically oust the Socialist president, and how via "democratic" processes (such as sympathetic courts, with self appointed judges), a leader can long hold on to his power despite the will of the people

2) how food and wealth are not static assets, they can both be consumed, and disappear so quickly. I have had philosophical conversations with Socialist leaning members of this board, who cannot seem to understand that wealth isn't some static unearned thing. They never seem to understand that if you redistribute the wealth, and people spend that money... then what?... I say look at Venezuela and you will see

2B) I watched an interview with a Venezuelan farmer as part of an article about food shortages in Venezuela. It showed his fields turning into a wasteland as he reported that he cannot afford to plant, because government price controls make it so he cannot even pay for his seed and ferilizer for growing any crops.

3) Finally, I am impressed by the fact that once a nation goes down this path, it is so hard to turn back , no matter how bad it gets.

Regards,

George Clay

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Socialism's Dismal Harvest: Venezuela Edition
https://mises.org/blog/socialisms-disma ... la-edition" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One of the points I like to stress in my introductory economics course, as well in my course on Economic Expansion and Development is that socialism, when implemented, results in poverty, starvation, death, and cultural ossification. The more hard-core socialist the system is, the worse its problems. Mary Anastasia O’Grady documents this in a short essay in the Wall Street Journal. It is an excellent primer in the problems of socialism in which she uses Leonard Read's "I, Pencil" to illustrate what any economic system must do if society is to survive. As O'Grady notes:
In his craving for power, the late Hugo Chávez pledged to redistribute Venezuela’s wealth to the poor masses. The god-father of “21st-century socialism” seems to have been unaware that the resources he promised to shower on his people had to first be produced. . .

. . . Among the many stupidities that socialism promotes is the idea that by imposing price controls and forbidding profits, government can make food both cheap and widely available.

The opposite is true, and Venezuela proves the rule. An August-September 2015 survey by the multi-university, Caracas-based social and economic research project Encovi found that 87% of those polled reported that they did not have sufficient income for food. Their privation is a result of artificially holding down prices, which creates shortages. Consumers are forced to scurry about black markets looking for what they need and then pay dearly for it—if they can. They face killer inflation which, according to the central bank, was 180.9% on an annual basis in the fourth quarter of 2015, up from 82.4% in the first quarter of last year.

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gclayjr wrote:All,

I have been following the Venezuelan Holocaust for years. I am also surprised that it doesn't get so much news coverage. I don't think this is some great Bankster conspiracy. This is something a lot simpler than that. Hugo Chavez came to power on the Communist/Socialist mantra of making everybody equal by taking all of the money from the rich and giving it to the poor. Venezuela had some rich and a lot of very poor people. I used to remember riding from the Caracas airport to Caracas, and seeing the unbelievable squalor of home made shacks hastily constructed on the side of the mountains, where so many desperate people lived. I also read about the times, after a rain when these shacks would be washed down the mountain, often killing the residents. It was pretty horrible. That being said, in the early 1980's life in Venezuela was still much better than many other Latin Countries I worked in where it was much worse.

Guess what! Chavez and company produced as promised. I heard it reported that Venezuela was the most equal country in the world. I looked it up, and that is not true, but it is ONE of the most equal countries in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... e_equality

And while they may not be the MOST equal country in the world, those few that beat them are similar hellholes. The only way equality is accomplished in this world is by creating equal misery. By the way, those so called Socialist utopias such as Scandinavian countries, and some people's beloved Britain...not so equal

I have long been pondering Venezuela, as how it might be a harbinger of what we may soon see and 3 things have been going through my mind

1) This is a reasonably democratic country in which the people have fairly vigorously united to democratically oust the Socialist president, and how via "democratic" processes (such as sympathetic courts, with self appointed judges), a leader can long hold on to his power despite the will of the people

2) how food and wealth are not static assets, they can both be consumed, and disappear so quickly. I have had philosophical conversations with Socialist leaning members of this board, who cannot seem to understand that wealth isn't some static unearned thing. They never seem to understand that if you redistribute the wealth, and people spend that money... then what?... I say look at Venezuela and you will see

2B) I watched an interview with a Venezuelan farmer as part of an article about food shortages in Venezuela. It showed his fields turning into a wasteland as he reported that he cannot afford to plant, because government price controls make it so he cannot even pay for his seed and ferilizer for growing any crops.

3) Finally, I am impressed by the fact that once a nation goes down this path, it is so hard to turn back , no matter how bad it gets.

Regards,

George Clay
...spend some time studying the global banking institutions (World Bank, IMF, WTO, GATT, etc etc etc)...might have a read of "Economic Hitman" by John Perkins. While perhaps the collapse isn't some grand banker conspiracy....the banker conspiracy (obtaining ownership of all of the world's assets by simply providing a system of credit) has certainly contributed volumes to the collapse. Is it the ultimate cause? I don't believe so. I believe its the result of the majority of the people choosing not to live righteous principles. Wickedness (selfishness) is always the root of the collapse. Secret combinations though are simply people covenanting with each other by their throats to be wicked/selfishness and take take take....by robbing, murder, taking control of the government of the people, etc etc etc.

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its going to be interesting to see how the spillover from Venezuela goes...and how it effects the neighbors...who aren't the most stable at this point either.

Here's an article on Columbia -
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/05/colo ... -uribe-up/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

South America could make some substantial changes in a very short period of time...

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Jason wrote:its going to be interesting to see how the spillover from Venezuela goes...and how it effects the neighbors...who aren't the most stable at this point either.

Here's an article on Columbia -
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/05/colo ... -uribe-up/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

South America could make some substantial changes in a very short period of time...
Yes, changes are definitely on the horizon as are a horde of refugees. Lucifer and his Gadianton cadre are laughing with delight.

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Jason,
While perhaps the collapse isn't some grand banker conspiracy....the banker conspiracy (obtaining ownership of all of the world's assets by simply providing a system of credit) has certainly contributed volumes to the collapse. Is it the ultimate cause? I don't believe so.
Maybe..., but I think this endless focus on the bankers causes too many people to miss the most important points. That is my biggest problem with all of this conspiracy stuff. It distracts people from looking at what the real problems are... and it is in losing our Christian and nation's founding principles. not the amazing success of some cabal.

If we focus on the cabal, we miss the point, while thinking we have found the answer.

Regards,

George Clay

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gclayjr wrote:Jason,
While perhaps the collapse isn't some grand banker conspiracy....the banker conspiracy (obtaining ownership of all of the world's assets by simply providing a system of credit) has certainly contributed volumes to the collapse. Is it the ultimate cause? I don't believe so.
Maybe..., but I think this endless focus on the bankers causes too many people to miss the most important points. That is my biggest problem with all of this conspiracy stuff. It distracts people from looking at what the real problems are... and it is in losing our Christian and nation's founding principles. not the amazing success of some cabal.

If we focus on the cabal, we miss the point, while thinking we have found the answer.

Regards,

George Clay
Interesting perspective. Having been a conspiracy researcher (and still so although not so focused anymore on it...or spending the research time) I lean towards taking issue with your statement. That said, I see a lot of truth in your statement. Looking back, I can see how it has effected my family and I. Essentially studying secret combinations and darkness. While I am grateful for the knowledge and perspective the research has provided me...it was not without cost. I've also seen a number of fellow researchers not make it through the depression and darkness. Or turn so skeptical that they turn on the church not recognizing the good when they see it. Or they see the dark side as the winning side and choose to join them.

I think there is some value in recognizing the cabal for what it is...but as you state...its very important to stay focused on what's really important...and that is ultimately being a disciple of Christ...and living associated principles and keeping respective covenants.

The good side will win. That I believe is the heart of the Book of Revelations.

Something to be said for being wise as serpents but harmless as doves...

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Jason,

You have a better balanced view of this than I observe from most conspiracy theorists. When I was first approached, many years ago, by a conspiracy theorist friend of mine, I gave his ideas quite a bit of thought, and I concluded the following...

What difference does it make?

I don't think that even if some or all of these conspiracies are correct, that anything is gained by immersing oneself discovering and spreading the word of this conspiracy or that conspiracy or this conspiring group or that conspiring group.

The only way to "fix" the world's problems is for us as a people, to return to proper guiding principles. If we do this, any conspiracies will be harmless. So I believe that I would better spend my time and energy in discovering and evangelizing true guiding principles, rather than running around looking for conspiracies.

I think conspiracy theories are like narcotics, or smoking. For some people, such as yourself, you can investigate this stuff, and not let it control and distort your life, but for too many others, they become addicted to this stuff, and lose contact with reality.

Regards,

George Clay

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Jason wrote: I think there is some value in recognizing the cabal for what it is...but as you state...its very important to stay focused on what's really important...and that is ultimately being a disciple of Christ...and living associated principles and keeping respective covenants.
That was one of the sections in our lesson this past Sunday - keeping the focus of our study on the scriptures. I shared something there that kinda landed me in hot water, although I stand by the principle. I told how I used to listen to the scriptures on the way to work and then an educational audiobook (usually history/biography/nonfiction) on the way home. However, I discovered that the audiobooks weren't really adding anything altogether positive to my life. I learned things, sure, but they weren't very useful in the long run. So I stopped listening to them.

The 1st counselor commented after me that we shouldn't study just the scriptures as we need to have a good foundation of other topics in order to be able to serve in the church. His comment was followed by another elder who remarked that we have been instructed to seek knowledge out of the best books. I therefore stood condemned for not following righteous instructions.

What I failed to mention was that the books I discontinued were biographies of Mao and Stalin, as well as some others regarding the corrupt and broken nature of our financial markets. What I replaced them with are BYU devotional talks by prophets and apostles. I figured studying the gospel would be more helpful to my salvation than studying the works of mass murderers.

At any rate, I declined to defend myself and took their reproof in the spirit it was intended. All the same, I don't think studying the gospel "too much" would disqualify me from service in the church... :-?

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gclayjr wrote:Jason,

You have a better balanced view of this than I observe from most conspiracy theorists. When I was first approached, many years ago, by a conspiracy theorist friend of mine, I gave his ideas quite a bit of thought, and I concluded the following...

What difference does it make?

I don't think that even if some or all of these conspiracies are correct, that anything is gained by immersing oneself discovering and spreading the word of this conspiracy or that conspiracy or this conspiring group or that conspiring group.

The only way to "fix" the world's problems is for us as a people, to return to proper guiding principles. If we do this, any conspiracies will be harmless. So I believe that I would better spend my time and energy in discovering and evangelizing true guiding principles, rather than running around looking for conspiracies.

I think conspiracy theories are like narcotics, or smoking. For some people, such as yourself, you can investigate this stuff, and not let it control and distort your life, but for too many others, they become addicted to this stuff, and lose contact with reality.

Regards,

George Clay
As I stated...you have a very valid real point. That said...not everyone chooses to live by proper guiding principles. I place some value in knowing their tricks and what they've done in the past so that I can hopefully catch similar attempts in the future (history repeating itself).

The analogy I would apply is Captain Moroni using spies to observe Amalickiah's armies. Something to be said for focusing on building the protections (if everyone is out spying no defenses are built at home) but also something to be said for being aware of what the enemy is up to.

I happen to know that the church puts out a daily bulletin of world happenings to upper leadership. So while they are focused on missionary work and all the rest of the activities of building the kingdom...they also keep an eye out for what the enemy is doing.

This used to be more overt in the days of President Benson but now goes on quietly in the background. I have a copy of the letter from Ezra Taft Benson to President McKay accompanying a copy of "The Politician" which chronicled Eisenhower's rise to power and many of his dark deeds in the process. Not even touching upon his recommendation in general conference of "None Dare Call It Conspiracy".

Certainly important to maintain balance in one's life....but it doesn't hurt to be wise as a serpent but harmless as a dove.

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