The name of the Davidic Servant revealed!

[Durzan]

I copied this from a group in FB a few years ago.

My notes on Avraham Gileadi’s final Dreams and Visions class:
Avraham did not reference any dreams for this last class but instead he took us through verse by verse of Isaiah on how to prepare for the End Times as Isaiah instructs.
A great amount of information, explanation and verses were dedicated to our loving Savior and His redeeming role in these Last Days. Too many to list or itemize. (sorry)
The next greatest part of tonight’s lesson was the focus on the Latter Day Servant and his proxy saving roll as he emulates the Savior. Again too many verses listed to mention here but was truly eye opening!
Avraham explained that “A GREAT reversal of circumstances is coming to the world.” Mountains will be made low and valleys will be raised up, literally; however, the rich will also be made poor, and the poor will be exalted.
The King of Assyria (antichrist, counterfeit or left hand of the Lord) will make predictions and they will not come to pass. On the other hand, the Latter Day Servant (righteousness, right hand of the Lord) will also predict things to come, however, they WILL come to pass. This is how we will identify who the End Time Servant is. The counterfeit comes before the real deal and only the Servant prophesies truth that comes to pass.
The Lord’s End Time Servant is “central” to the end time Scenario that is coming.
The Servant’s mission is a worldwide, universal mission from the very start.
The Servant heralds the Lord’s coming, just as John the Baptist did for Jesus.
The Servants mission is to gather and restore the house of Israel.
The Servant is severely persecuted and suffers greatly (marred beyond recognition); then the Lord saves, empowers and sanctifies him.
Our mission is to emulate the Servant as he emulates the Savior.
Holding fast to the Lord means to hold fast to His End Time Servant.
The wicked try to destroy the Lords people and His Servant.
The Lords people will be sorely tried but if we endure we will see the Lord in person.
We need to go through trials to sanctify and purify ourselves of our iniquities.
Draw near unto the Lord and make your Calling and Election sure. (to become the elect)
Mercy comes on the heels of repentance. (Mighty prayer)
When we accept our rolls as proxy saviors on Mt. Zion the Lord will vindicate us.
Heavenly hosts will be participants in our end time efforts.
The Lord will fight our battles through empowering the Servant and restoring power.
If we are covenant keepers we will always have sufficient for our needs.
Trust in the Lord will help us overcome the fears that will come.
Conquering the temptation to ‘fear’ will help raise us to higher levels of spirituality.
Our earth keeps a Celestial law and will ascend from this telestial level to the new terrestrial, Millennial level and we need to raise the bar to a higher spiritual level if we don’t want to go into the dust with the wicked.

Interesting... for some reason this sounds all very familiar, at least to me.

Perchance is this servant supposed to greet the Savior upon the mount of olives?

Is he one of the two prophets to be raised to defend Jerusalem? Or is he a separate person altogether?

[Isaiah]

For all those who still believe this is Jesus -
How can this be Jesus ? - please explain these scriptures.
10 "But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him"

3 Nephi 21:
8 And when that day shall come, it shall come to pass that kings shall shut their mouths; for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.

9 For in that day, for my sake shall the Father work a work, which shall be a great and a marvelous work among them; and there shall be among them those who will not believe it, although a man shall declare it unto them.

10 But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him, although he shall be marred because of them.
Yet I will heal him, for I will show unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil.

11 Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be cut off from among my people who are of the covenant.

This can't be Joseph Smith either, because this "servant", "shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him", Joseph Smith was killed.

[simpleton]

Isaiah is spot on...most definitely is not Jesus

[Durzan]

Agreed.

[Matchmaker]

I'm sure most of you already know, but I just found out that Elder David A. Bednar is the Apostle who is over Israel. I wonder if he will be one of the two witnesses.

[Durzan]

I'm sure most of you already know, but I just found out that Elder David A. Bednar is the Apostle who is over Israel. I wonder if he will be one of the two witnesses.

That is very possible, should he survive that long. Him and Uchdorf both have this way of speaking...

[Silver Pie]

It's JESUS CHRIST!

. . .

So anyone looking for a "Samuel The Lamanite" or any other mortal man...... LOOK NO FURTHER!

Interesting. Thank you for your view (I'll read all of the thread when I'm not on my phone).

[Titan27]

You can all speculate who this Davidic Servant is, and it's not David Ben-Gurion, nor is it David Bednar, nor is it Christ <--he will reign in Zion, but the Davidic servant will lead and gather the elect to Zion.

The Davidic Servant is Denver Snuffer Jr. Here is his account:

THE NEW NAME DAVID
Revelation given to Denver Snuffer, Jr, 10 September, 2011.

On the 10 th day of September, 2011 the word of the Lord said to me, You shall no longer be called Denver, but your name shall be called David. I was startled to hear this, and it troubled me. I regarded David as an adulterer and a murderer, who killed Uriah to hide his adultery. In response to Nathan's parable of the rich man who took the poor man's lamb in 2 Samuel, Chapter 12, David condemned himself to die for his sin. If David considered himself worthy to die, then should I not also condemn David? The more I reflected on this, the more troubled I became. I asked God to give to me another name, not the unwanted David.
For a day and a half my distress grew, and I prayed repeatedly to have the name changed. I feared it memorialized and perhaps also foreshadowed failure and rebellion. I did not want to have the Lord view me as either rebellious or a failure. I thought the name was detestable, the name of a bloody man who was unfit to build the Lord's house, whose family was torn apart by infighting. After a day and a half of prayer asking to change the name, the Lord answered in a perfectly mild voice saying, I thought it no great insult to be called the Son of David.
His gentle response cut my heart and made me ashamed. I learned David means: Beloved of God. This made me all the more embarrassed at how meanly I had reacted and spoken to the Lord about His gift to me. Instead of thinking it an unworthy name, I concluded I was unworthy of His gift. I asked Him to forgive me and He frankly did so. I am an ignorant and prideful man.
I expected to keep this private, and after doing so for six years, I have been commanded to make this known.

Do your research folks. Denver has been in the Lord's presence more (being instructed for the mission he is to accomplish) and written more than Joseph Smith has. He is revealing the Lord's will to us. Go to his website denversnuffer.com and read his blogposts, his talks given under downloads, and other direction given to him by the Lord. In fact, just this last week up in Boise, new scriptures were canonized as well as the Lord's covenant was offered to those who wish to accept the Covenant from the Lord. All of this is happening, it's from the Lord, and events are unfolding even now in preparation of the call out to go establish Zion (spoiler alert the LDS church is NOT Zion). Denver was a convert to the church, but after 40 years to the day, the church excommunicated him (marred him). At the time of his excommunication, his stake president declared him to be the most worthy man in his stake. He was excommunicated for writing a book (passing the heavenly gift) which revealed some of the true events of church history that has been sugar-coated and/or rewritten, that doesn't paint the church in the best light. The Lord is working in our day, and he is working through Denver.

Let me include this last warning before your gut reaction to this causes you to immediately bash or belittle Denver. The Lord has told Denver in His own voice, just like He did to Joseph Smith, "I will bless them that bless you, and curse them that curse you".

[Alaris]

First I don't think anyone's witness of the identity of the Davidic Servant should be casually dismissed since he will be someone. I have studied enough of Denver and have received the witness of the spirit that he is indeed a false prophet.

On the 10 th day of September, 2011 the word of the Lord said to me, You shall no longer be called Denver, but your name shall be called David. I was startled to hear this, and it troubled me. I regarded David as an adulterer and a murderer, who killed Uriah to hide his adultery. In response to Nathan's parable of the rich man who took the poor man's lamb in 2 Samuel, Chapter 12, David condemned himself to die for his sin. If David considered himself worthy to die, then should I not also condemn David? The more I reflected on this, the more troubled I became. I asked God to give to me another name, not the unwanted David.

This reads so phony to me. If the Lord is speaking to me and renames me "Sue" then I would kiss the Earth and thank the Master and trust in His infinite wisdom. DAVID on the other hand is a common name and socially accepted. Denver was obviously well read and I'm sure was aware of David's contrition.

For a day and a half my distress grew, and I prayed repeatedly to have the name changed. I feared it memorialized and perhaps also foreshadowed failure and rebellion.

Please. This reads phony, weak and extremely presumptuous. If the Lord has a mission of failure for you, embrace it as Joseph Smith did for building ZION. Mighty and Strong? Nope.

I did not want to have the Lord view me as either rebellious or a failure.

Yet I rebelled against the name he gave me. This makes zero sense

I thought the name was detestable, the name of a bloody man who was unfit to build the Lord's house, whose family was torn apart by infighting. After a day and a half of prayer asking to change the name, the Lord answered in a perfectly mild voice saying, I thought it no great insult to be called the Son of David.

That is not the voice of the Alpha and Omega. This is:

D&C 33:1 Behold, I say unto you, my servants Ezra and Northrop, open ye your ears and hearken to the voice of the Lord your God, whose word is quick and powerful, sharper than a two-edged sword, to the dividing asunder of the joints and marrow, soul and spirit; and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Well gee Denver er David, I thought it no great insult ... that sounds like the beginnings of an apology.

His gentle response cut my heart and made me ashamed. I learned David means: Beloved of God.

He's just now looking up the name meaning? Phony. That would be step one.

This made me all the more embarrassed at how meanly I had reacted and spoken to the Lord about His gift to me.

Meanly? Is this really Denver who wrote this?

Instead of thinking it an unworthy name, I concluded I was unworthy of His gift. I asked Him to forgive me and He frankly did so. I am an ignorant and prideful man.
I expected to keep this private, and after doing so for six years, I have been commanded to make this known.

That's possible - but not by God was he commanded.

Do your research folks. Denver has been in the Lord's presence more (being instructed for the mission he is to accomplish) and written more than Joseph Smith has. He is revealing the Lord's will to us. Go to his website denversnuffer.com and read his blogposts, his talks given under downloads, and other direction given to him by the Lord. In fact, just this last week up in Boise, new scriptures were canonized as well as the Lord's covenant was offered to those who wish to accept the Covenant from the Lord. All of this is happening, it's from the Lord, and events are unfolding even now in preparation of the call out to go establish Zion (spoiler alert the LDS church is NOT Zion). Denver was a convert to the church, but after 40 years to the day, the church excommunicated him (marred him). At the time of his excommunication, his stake president declared him to be the most worthy man in his stake.

Another phony sounding statement that reeks of pride.

He was excommunicated for writing a book (passing the heavenly gift) which revealed some of the true events of church history that has been sugar-coated and/or rewritten, that doesn't paint the church in the best light. The Lord is working in our day, and he is working through Denver.

Let me include this last warning before your gut reaction to this causes you to immediately bash or belittle Denver. The Lord has told Denver in His own voice, just like He did to Joseph Smith, "I will bless them that bless you, and curse them that curse you".

I went straight to the source about Denver Snuffer. Nope. I've read some excerpts of his new revelation. Faking the voice of the Greatest of us all is impossible.

2 Nephi 33:10 And now, my beloved brethren, and also Jew, and all ye ends of the earth, hearken unto these words and believe in Christ; and if ye believe not in these words believe in Christ. And if ye shall believe in Christ ye will believe in these words, for they are the words of Christ, and he hath given them unto me; and they teach all men that they should do good.

Finally the fruit of your post Titan27 is the same fruit that others bear when coming here to witness about Denver or Fundamentalism or any other false offshoot. There is a spirit of condescension - of daring - of belittling .. and it ends with a warning of a curse. I pray that the Lord's end time servant will have better witnesses than this....because the truth doesn't need others to shame them into believing it. The spirit does the conversion. If Denver Snuffer were the Davidic Servant all you would need to do is share the words and testify and the spirit would do the rest.

[Titan27]

"Finally the fruit of your post Titan27 is the same fruit that others bear when coming here to witness about Denver or Fundamentalism or any other false offshoot. There is a spirit of condescension - of daring - of belittling .. and it ends with a warning of a curse. I pray that the Lord's end time servant will have better witnesses than this....because the truth doesn't need others to shame them into believing it. The spirit does the conversion. If Denver Snuffer were the Davidic Servant all you would need to do is share the words and testify and the spirit would do the rest"

I don't need you to believe me. I just saw a forum thread of individuals who are speculating about who the Davidic servant is, and I was trying to do you a favor by sharing the evidence of the Lord's hand being extended in our day. You can choose to believe it or not, and if I were you I wouldn't take my word for it either. Read Denver's words, pray about it, and gain your own witness if the words he speaks bear fruit and are given him of the Lord. I already have my witness, and whether you or anyone else accepts it doesn't matter to me, or Denver, but it does to the Lord. He is laying out one last grafting in before the gospel is taken from the Gentiles (including the LDS church) and given back to the Jews. And your contention that that is not the voice of Alpha and Omega, to me, doesn't hold water. The Lord speaks to each of us in the language we speak and understand. Denver transcribed the words of the Lord as he received them, and so you cannot tell the Lord that he cannot use words in Denvers language, when it is plainly obvious that the words from the Lord as given in Joseph's day followed a different pattern than they did in Nephis day (I.e. And it came to pass...) You ignore Denver's words at your own peril, but I would advise you to take it to the Lord and gain your own witness. And by the way, if you get that answer, whatever your particular answer is, nobody here is asking you to share your own personal ability to get an answer or not. This is an invitation to all, and the sheep will hear His voice, the goats will not.

[Titan27]

Only fools take offense when no offense is intended.

I find it interesting how you dismiss Denver in the same manner as you classify the Fundamentalists. The main difference is that the church claims that polygamy WAS lived by Joseph, while Denver does not. The church? ...Sides with the polygamists, even wrote an essay claiming Joseph had as many as 40 wives, without any DNA evidence that Joseph had any children through anyone but Emma. As far as the fundamentals of the restoration, yes, we believe those, but the church does not. The church has altered the sacrament prayer - thus rendering it an empty ordinance, the baptismal prayer - also rendering it ineffective, removed the Lectures on Faith - without the Lord's permission or command, turned the word of wisdom from "not by command or constraint" into a commandment required to enter the temple or to expect a celestial glory, turned the church into a Vatican-like organization in which outliving other Q12 members qualifies you to be prophet (instead of the way the Lord set it up) regardless of that prospective president's relationship with Christ or calling from Him, and a correlation department that seeks to control it's membership (which is one of the specific amens pronounced upon the priesthood leadership as found in D&C 121). It would not be difficult to list (an LDS version of the) 95 Thesis as Martin Luther did in his day, because there are increasingly more ways the church leadership has strayed from the Lord and His doctrine. Remember when the Lord visited the Nephites in Bountiful, after giving His doctrine he declared that if anyone declared more or less than this as His doctrine, the same IS NOT OF ME AND IS OF THE DEVIL. The church has done so.

And if you or anyone in the church bothered to read your scriptures (and cared to understand the true history of the church in Joseph's and Brigham's day) you would know that the Lord has rejected the LDS church (in 1844 when Joseph had been killed and the Nauvoo Temple had not been completed yet). See D&C 124. Joseph was a true prophet all the way until he was martyred, so was Hyrum. Brigham was not a prophet, seer or revelator, nor has any other hierarchally-inherited leader of the church been such. No matter how many mental gymnastics you employ, you cannot refute the words the Lord spoke in warning of the commandment He gave to the saints to build the Nauvoo Temple. The Lord said that if they had completed it, they were also to remain in Nauvoo, which they did not. Therefore every consequence laid out by the Lord is and has been fulfilled, including the rejection of the church, along with your dead (temple work), the loss of the fulness of the priesthood, etc. the church has devolved into vain and foolish traditions, and resembles more the Catholic Church than it does the church that Joseph originally intended to restore.

[Alaris]

More insults and condescension reveals the spirit in which you come. Thanks for making it clear to those who may be more easily swayed.

[Matchmaker]

Only fools take offense when no offense is intended.

I find it interesting how you dismiss Denver in the same manner as you classify the Fundamentalists. The main difference is that the church claims that polygamy WAS lived by Joseph, while Denver does not. The church? ...Sides with the polygamists, even wrote an essay claiming Joseph had as many as 40 wives, without any DNA evidence that Joseph had any children through anyone but Emma. As far as the fundamentals of the restoration, yes, we believe those, but the church does not. The church has altered the sacrament prayer - thus rendering it an empty ordinance, the baptismal prayer - also rendering it ineffective, removed the Lectures on Faith - without the Lord's permission or command, turned the word of wisdom from "not by command or constraint" into a commandment required to enter the temple or to expect a celestial glory, turned the church into a Vatican-like organization in which outliving other Q12 members qualifies you to be prophet (instead of the way the Lord set it up) regardless of that prospective president's relationship with Christ or calling from Him, and a correlation department that seeks to control it's membership (which is one of the specific amens pronounced upon the priesthood leadership as found in D&C 121). It would not be difficult to list (an LDS version of the) 95 Thesis as Martin Luther did in his day, because there are increasingly more ways the church leadership has strayed from the Lord and His doctrine. Remember when the Lord visited the Nephites in Bountiful, after giving His doctrine he declared that if anyone declared more or less than this as His doctrine, the same IS NOT OF ME AND IS OF THE DEVIL. The church has done so.

And if you or anyone in the church bothered to read your scriptures (and cared to understand the true history of the church in Joseph's and Brigham's day) you would know that the Lord has rejected the LDS church (in 1844 when Joseph had been killed and the Nauvoo Temple had not been completed yet). See D&C 124. Joseph was a true prophet all the way until he was martyred, so was Hyrum. Brigham was not a prophet, seer or revelator, nor has any other hierarchally-inherited leader of the church been such. No matter how many mental gymnastics you employ, you cannot refute the words the Lord spoke in warning of the commandment He gave to the saints to build the Nauvoo Temple. The Lord said that if they had completed it, they were also to remain in Nauvoo, which they did not. Therefore every consequence laid out by the Lord is and has been fulfilled, including the rejection of the church, along with your dead (temple work), the loss of the fulness of the priesthood, etc. the church has devolved into vain and foolish traditions, and resembles more the Catholic Church than it does the church that Joseph originally intended to restore.

Spencer W Kimball was a Prophet of God. I testify to that in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen

[Arenera]

Only fools take offense when no offense is intended.

I find it interesting how you dismiss Denver in the same manner as you classify the Fundamentalists. The main difference is that the church claims that polygamy WAS lived by Joseph, while Denver does not. The church? ...Sides with the polygamists, even wrote an essay claiming Joseph had as many as 40 wives, without any DNA evidence that Joseph had any children through anyone but Emma. As far as the fundamentals of the restoration, yes, we believe those, but the church does not. The church has altered the sacrament prayer - thus rendering it an empty ordinance, the baptismal prayer - also rendering it ineffective, removed the Lectures on Faith - without the Lord's permission or command, turned the word of wisdom from "not by command or constraint" into a commandment required to enter the temple or to expect a celestial glory, turned the church into a Vatican-like organization in which outliving other Q12 members qualifies you to be prophet (instead of the way the Lord set it up) regardless of that prospective president's relationship with Christ or calling from Him, and a correlation department that seeks to control it's membership (which is one of the specific amens pronounced upon the priesthood leadership as found in D&C 121). It would not be difficult to list (an LDS version of the) 95 Thesis as Martin Luther did in his day, because there are increasingly more ways the church leadership has strayed from the Lord and His doctrine. Remember when the Lord visited the Nephites in Bountiful, after giving His doctrine he declared that if anyone declared more or less than this as His doctrine, the same IS NOT OF ME AND IS OF THE DEVIL. The church has done so.

And if you or anyone in the church bothered to read your scriptures (and cared to understand the true history of the church in Joseph's and Brigham's day) you would know that the Lord has rejected the LDS church (in 1844 when Joseph had been killed and the Nauvoo Temple had not been completed yet). See D&C 124. Joseph was a true prophet all the way until he was martyred, so was Hyrum. Brigham was not a prophet, seer or revelator, nor has any other hierarchally-inherited leader of the church been such. No matter how many mental gymnastics you employ, you cannot refute the words the Lord spoke in warning of the commandment He gave to the saints to build the Nauvoo Temple. The Lord said that if they had completed it, they were also to remain in Nauvoo, which they did not. Therefore every consequence laid out by the Lord is and has been fulfilled, including the rejection of the church, along with your dead (temple work), the loss of the fulness of the priesthood, etc. the church has devolved into vain and foolish traditions, and resembles more the Catholic Church than it does the church that Joseph originally intended to restore.

You mean I should be reading that book on the shelf that is so dusty.....





Oh, I read electronically now!

Brigham Young was an American Moses.

Denver Snuffer is old news around here, you need to try another place.

[Kingdom of ZION]

"Finally the fruit of your post Titan27 is the same fruit that others bear when coming here to witness about Denver or Fundamentalism or any other false offshoot. There is a spirit of condescension - of daring - of belittling .. and it ends with a warning of a curse. I pray that the Lord's end time servant will have better witnesses than this....because the truth doesn't need others to shame them into believing it. The spirit does the conversion. If Denver Snuffer were the Davidic Servant all you would need to do is share the words and testify and the spirit would do the rest"

I don't need you to believe me. I just saw a forum thread of individuals who are speculating about who the Davidic servant is, and I was trying to do you a favor by sharing the evidence of the Lord's hand being extended in our day. You can choose to believe it or not, and if I were you I wouldn't take my word for it either. Read Denver's words, pray about it, and gain your own witness if the words he speaks bear fruit and are given him of the Lord. I already have my witness, and whether you or anyone else accepts it doesn't matter to me, or Denver, but it does to the Lord. He is laying out one last grafting in before the gospel is taken from the Gentiles (including the LDS church) and given back to the Jews. And your contention that that is not the voice of Alpha and Omega, to me, doesn't hold water. The Lord speaks to each of us in the language we speak and understand. Denver transcribed the words of the Lord as he received them, and so you cannot tell the Lord that he cannot use words in Denvers language, when it is plainly obvious that the words from the Lord as given in Joseph's day followed a different pattern than they did in Nephis day (I.e. And it came to pass...) You ignore Denver's words at your own peril, but I would advise you to take it to the Lord and gain your own witness. And by the way, if you get that answer, whatever your particular answer is, nobody here is asking you to share your own personal ability to get an answer or not. This is an invitation to all, and the sheep will hear His voice, the goats will not.

I guess I must be a Goat in your eyes! That is fine by me...

[dafty]

"Finally the fruit of your post Titan27 is the same fruit that others bear when coming here to witness about Denver or Fundamentalism or any other false offshoot. There is a spirit of condescension - of daring - of belittling .. and it ends with a warning of a curse. I pray that the Lord's end time servant will have better witnesses than this....because the truth doesn't need others to shame them into believing it. The spirit does the conversion. If Denver Snuffer were the Davidic Servant all you would need to do is share the words and testify and the spirit would do the rest"

I don't need you to believe me. I just saw a forum thread of individuals who are speculating about who the Davidic servant is, and I was trying to do you a favor by sharing the evidence of the Lord's hand being extended in our day. You can choose to believe it or not, and if I were you I wouldn't take my word for it either. Read Denver's words, pray about it, and gain your own witness if the words he speaks bear fruit and are given him of the Lord. I already have my witness, and whether you or anyone else accepts it doesn't matter to me, or Denver, but it does to the Lord. He is laying out one last grafting in before the gospel is taken from the Gentiles (including the LDS church) and given back to the Jews. And your contention that that is not the voice of Alpha and Omega, to me, doesn't hold water. The Lord speaks to each of us in the language we speak and understand. Denver transcribed the words of the Lord as he received them, and so you cannot tell the Lord that he cannot use words in Denvers language, when it is plainly obvious that the words from the Lord as given in Joseph's day followed a different pattern than they did in Nephis day (I.e. And it came to pass...) You ignore Denver's words at your own peril, but I would advise you to take it to the Lord and gain your own witness. And by the way, if you get that answer, whatever your particular answer is, nobody here is asking you to share your own personal ability to get an answer or not. This is an invitation to all, and the sheep will hear His voice, the goats will not.

I guess I must be a Goat in your eyes! That is fine by me...

where have you been hiding KoZ? for a sec I thought you were The Hidden Servant

[Kingdom of ZION]

Hi Dafty,
I have been reading, pondering, praying, and studying the Gospels and Prophecies of the End Time. I have been writing some and working hard in my business and at the farm to get better prepared for the coming hard times.

I wish I had more time, and was better prepared! Yet age does bring clarity of purpose.

I have been following the Remnant movement, in which Denver is a part of one faction... it is wakening people, yet deceiving them in the very same instants. The Latter-Day sifting has began!

Shalom

[Sarah]

Hi Dafty,
I have been reading, pondering, praying, and studying the Gospels and Prophecies of the End Time. I have been writing some and working hard in my business and at the farm to get better prepared for the coming hard times.

I wish I had more time, and was better prepared! Yet age does bring clarity of purpose.

I have been following the Remnant movement, in which Denver is a part of one faction... it is wakening people, yet deceiving them in the very same instants. The Latter-Day sifting has began!

Shalom

Do you have any opinions on timing? I too think things are about to start happening.

[Kingdom of ZION]

Hi Dafty,
I have been reading, pondering, praying, and studying the Gospels and Prophecies of the End Time. I have been writing some and working hard in my business and at the farm to get better prepared for the coming hard times.

I wish I had more time, and was better prepared! Yet age does bring clarity of purpose.

I have been following the Remnant movement, in which Denver is a part of one faction... it is wakening people, yet deceiving them in the very same instants. The Latter-Day sifting has began!

Shalom

Do you have any opinions on timing? I too think things are about to start happening.

The kingdom of the adversary will be simultaneously establish with the kingdom of G_d, as per Joseph Smith. As we only have the years that you can count on your own fingers... when you see the one, look diligently for the other. Their is already dozens of false 'True Messengers" coming forth, to deceive ALL but the very ELECT! Pray always, pray for it to come, pray that you will not be deceived and will be guided to His chosen servants that will be coming forth.

Shalom

[abijah]

His name will be: [Insert Given Name or Names Here] Joseph-Nephi.

“joseph-nephi”? “josephite”? Where do you get your terminology?

You can all speculate who this Davidic Servant is, and it's not David Ben-Gurion, nor is it David Bednar, nor is it Christ <--he will reign in Zion, but the Davidic servant will lead and gather the elect to Zion.

The Davidic Servant is Denver Snuffer Jr. Here is his account:

THE NEW NAME DAVID
Revelation given to Denver Snuffer, Jr, 10 September, 2011.

On the 10 th day of September, 2011 the word of the Lord said to me, You shall no longer be called Denver, but your name shall be called David. I was startled to hear this, and it troubled me. I regarded David as an adulterer and a murderer, who killed Uriah to hide his adultery. In response to Nathan's parable of the rich man who took the poor man's lamb in 2 Samuel, Chapter 12, David condemned himself to die for his sin. If David considered himself worthy to die, then should I not also condemn David? The more I reflected on this, the more troubled I became. I asked God to give to me another name, not the unwanted David.
For a day and a half my distress grew, and I prayed repeatedly to have the name changed. I feared it memorialized and perhaps also foreshadowed failure and rebellion. I did not want to have the Lord view me as either rebellious or a failure. I thought the name was detestable, the name of a bloody man who was unfit to build the Lord's house, whose family was torn apart by infighting. After a day and a half of prayer asking to change the name, the Lord answered in a perfectly mild voice saying, I thought it no great insult to be called the Son of David.
His gentle response cut my heart and made me ashamed. I learned David means: Beloved of God. This made me all the more embarrassed at how meanly I had reacted and spoken to the Lord about His gift to me. Instead of thinking it an unworthy name, I concluded I was unworthy of His gift. I asked Him to forgive me and He frankly did so. I am an ignorant and prideful man.
I expected to keep this private, and after doing so for six years, I have been commanded to make this known.

Do your research folks. Denver has been in the Lord's presence more (being instructed for the mission he is to accomplish) and written more than Joseph Smith has. He is revealing the Lord's will to us. Go to his website denversnuffer.com and read his blogposts, his talks given under downloads, and other direction given to him by the Lord. In fact, just this last week up in Boise, new scriptures were canonized as well as the Lord's covenant was offered to those who wish to accept the Covenant from the Lord. All of this is happening, it's from the Lord, and events are unfolding even now in preparation of the call out to go establish Zion (spoiler alert the LDS church is NOT Zion). Denver was a convert to the church, but after 40 years to the day, the church excommunicated him (marred him). At the time of his excommunication, his stake president declared him to be the most worthy man in his stake. He was excommunicated for writing a book (passing the heavenly gift) which revealed some of the true events of church history that has been sugar-coated and/or rewritten, that doesn't paint the church in the best light. The Lord is working in our day, and he is working through Denver.

Let me include this last warning before your gut reaction to this causes you to immediately bash or belittle Denver. The Lord has told Denver in His own voice, just like He did to Joseph Smith, "I will bless them that bless you, and curse them that curse you".

The scriptures are clear in regards to the variety of fruits of this endtime figure’s ministry. I’m no expert on Snuffer or his publications, but it’s my understanding he has made these claims for years now. What fruits has he borne? He strikes me as a man of many words and few works. God’s champion of the last days will be characterized by the great works, the fruits of his ministry - not by divisive and egotistical blog posts.

Plus, his founding premise is incredibly illogical. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t his entire claim to authority based on him being “wrongly” excommunicated by church leaders, and therefore God took their priesthood keys and gave them to him? This is so obviously ridiculous on multiple fronts. For the sake of argument, let’s say his excommunication was unjust. Does he seriously think he was the first one to receive an unfair verdict at the hands of a priesthood leader? These are mortal fallible men, and mistakes happen, and they’ve happened long before Snuffer. Why didn’t God wrest away priesthood keys from church leadership in those cases? Maybe I don’t have the full story, but personally I can’t comprehend how anyone could fall for this nonsense.

[BruceRGilbert]

Denver Snuffer failed his "Abrahamic Test." He was unable to do what he was told to do because of his fear of man. He proceeded under intrepidation, knowing that he jeopardized his standing before the Lord. The rest is history, as he ought to be. No amount of "self-justification" suffices in disappointing Father. My hope is that he will re-awaken to his awful situation and repent.

[Silver Pie]

Denver Snuffer failed his "Abrahamic Test." He was unable to do what he was told to do because of his fear of man. He proceeded under intrepidation, knowing that he jeopardized his standing before the Lord. The rest is history, as he ought to be. No amount of "self-justification" suffices in disappointing Father. My hope is that he will re-awaken to his awful situation and repent.

I'm kind of confused here. He did what he believed God told him directly, even though men (his leaders) told him to defy what God had personally told him, and follow them.

Even if you disbelieve his claim of God talking to him, there was no fear of man in him. Fear of man would have spurred him to meekly obey his leaders, and to avoid being spurned by his fellow Mormons (he has been the recipient of mockery, accusation, anger, and so forth).

[harakim]

Only fools take offense when no offense is intended.

I find it interesting how you dismiss Denver in the same manner as you classify the Fundamentalists. The main difference is that the church claims that polygamy WAS lived by Joseph, while Denver does not. The church? ...Sides with the polygamists, even wrote an essay claiming Joseph had as many as 40 wives, without any DNA evidence that Joseph had any children through anyone but Emma. As far as the fundamentals of the restoration, yes, we believe those, but the church does not. The church has altered the sacrament prayer - thus rendering it an empty ordinance, the baptismal prayer - also rendering it ineffective, removed the Lectures on Faith - without the Lord's permission or command, turned the word of wisdom from "not by command or constraint" into a commandment required to enter the temple or to expect a celestial glory, turned the church into a Vatican-like organization in which outliving other Q12 members qualifies you to be prophet (instead of the way the Lord set it up) regardless of that prospective president's relationship with Christ or calling from Him, and a correlation department that seeks to control it's membership (which is one of the specific amens pronounced upon the priesthood leadership as found in D&C 121). It would not be difficult to list (an LDS version of the) 95 Thesis as Martin Luther did in his day, because there are increasingly more ways the church leadership has strayed from the Lord and His doctrine. Remember when the Lord visited the Nephites in Bountiful, after giving His doctrine he declared that if anyone declared more or less than this as His doctrine, the same IS NOT OF ME AND IS OF THE DEVIL. The church has done so.

And if you or anyone in the church bothered to read your scriptures (and cared to understand the true history of the church in Joseph's and Brigham's day) you would know that the Lord has rejected the LDS church (in 1844 when Joseph had been killed and the Nauvoo Temple had not been completed yet). See D&C 124. Joseph was a true prophet all the way until he was martyred, so was Hyrum. Brigham was not a prophet, seer or revelator, nor has any other hierarchally-inherited leader of the church been such. No matter how many mental gymnastics you employ, you cannot refute the words the Lord spoke in warning of the commandment He gave to the saints to build the Nauvoo Temple. The Lord said that if they had completed it, they were also to remain in Nauvoo, which they did not. Therefore every consequence laid out by the Lord is and has been fulfilled, including the rejection of the church, along with your dead (temple work), the loss of the fulness of the priesthood, etc. the church has devolved into vain and foolish traditions, and resembles more the Catholic Church than it does the church that Joseph originally intended to restore.

Given that you say Joseph was a true prophet until he was martyred, what do you think of the incident with Fannie Alger?

His name will be: [Insert Given Name or Names Here] Joseph-Nephi.

Your article explains that you believe they were called FirstName-PersonTheyAreAFollowerOf. Why do you think that was the case? And why Joseph-Nephi? Why are they a follower of Nephi and not Christ?

[shadow]

The Davidic Servant is Denver Snuffer Jr.

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[BruceRGilbert]

Denver Snuffer failed his "Abrahamic Test." He was unable to do what he was told to do because of his fear of man. He proceeded under intrepidation, knowing that he jeopardized his standing before the Lord. The rest is history, as he ought to be. No amount of "self-justification" suffices in disappointing Father. My hope is that he will re-awaken to his awful situation and repent.

I'm kind of confused here. He did what he believed God told him directly, even though men (his leaders) told him to defy what God had personally told him, and follow them.

Even if you disbelieve his claim of God talking to him, there was no fear of man in him. Fear of man would have spurred him to meekly obey his leaders, and to avoid being spurned by his fellow Mormons (he has been the recipient of mockery, accusation, anger, and so forth).

Silver Pie, you have spoken well - indeed you are a little confused, here. Denver Snuffer did not do what God told him directly to do. He failed to recognize the "voice of the Lord."

Doctrine and Covenants 1:38 What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.

He was directed to pull his book "Passing the Heavenly Gift" from the public as a condition in keeping his Temple covenants. He cited reasons related to "contractual obligations" in refusing to do so. This is the "fear of man" that I have cited. I would invite you to go back in time and hear his "audible" account as the event unfolded. It is in these times that you can hear the indecision, uncertainty, and hesitation in his voice. He simply made the wrong choice. He did not pass the "dragon on the hill" that he claimed to have made analogy to.

Please note, too, that like begets like. Denver "spurned his fellow Mormons" by speaking disparagingly about the Lord's anointed, stating that the Church had gone out of the way and now you have the audacity to claim that he has been the recipient of mockery, accusation, anger, and so forth when the truth is that he instigated these things against the Lord's anointed. It is an instance when white is called black and black is called white. So, yes, you are a little confused, here.