Jones and the occult origins of the NWO ideology?

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

The other day I heard Alex Jones discussing the movie "Promethius" and how it seems to outline what the NWO people believe about human origins. Earlier I ran across the following documentary on YouTube dealing with The Vril Society and what they believed about human origins. Then I watched the movie and sure enough it deals with a spacecraft that, after researching ancient star charts, determine the star system that their "gods" came from. Of course once getting there they discover the dead giants there have human DNA and they were the ones who created mankind. I have also noticed this theme on a lot of current history documentaries on ancient aliens . So is this philosophy that helped shape the Nazi philosophy one that extends to the elite today? Jones seems to think so and one wonders if this...well, check out this very interesting documentary. If you do not know the way the occult influenced Hitler you have no idea what WW2 history is really all about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVl4vmVLX7w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_i2uSJ7iTY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oT8s9z0Mso

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8vqozNpujI

http://www.youtube.com/verify_controver ... xgS-zxv8ds

[prestodocaptain of 10]

Everywhere you look today, in all the mainstream media outlets, radio, tv, internet, etc. the same agenda is being pushed by the NWO, just different facets of it, so a person is completely bombarded by these false ideas all of the time. This programing is to achieve one goal, destroy the basic unit of society, the family. This way, an amoral society at large will be produced (ripened) and be susceptible to believe in false ideas and philosophies, thereby being more easily decieved and controlled. This is the goal of the devil, to try to dissuade people from believing in Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ, and to lure people into believing in him instead, thereby, securing their damnation.

By the way, the History Channel is a load of pure smelly B.S. now. They are giving credibility to severely whacked out "theorists"??? Give me a break! If I have to watch one more Ancient alien astronut theorist pure smelly b.s. garbage show, I think I'll puke!!! The reason this has come about in the past several years is only because the global warming scam is on the rocks. If the elitists need to create a mass precieved exotenstial threat to "bring humanity together" in order to more fully control the world and pass a global tax (carbon credits paid to the world bank), and the fake one they created about the environment is falling apart, then they have to get the alien invasion one on the back burner and keep programming the masses that aliens could be real. What a load of B.S.!!!

[sbsioncaptain of 1,000]

depends, the NWO is Zionism, what is it's philosophy?

[prestodocaptain of 10]

The NWO is not Zionism, the NWO uses the idea of Zionsim to further their own goals.

[sbsioncaptain of 1,000]

"technically", I guess your right, REAL Zionism is the gospel of the next 1000 years, it's pseudo is, what is being promoted from Jerusalem today?

[prestodocaptain of 10]

To be more accurate, the NWO is the great secret combination mentioned by Mormon in Ether 8:23-25. It is also the second beast in the book of Revelation chapter 13. The NWO uses the philosphy of Zionism to solidify their antagonistic position in the Middle East. Eventually, they will provoke a war, Zionism vs. Islam in order to start WW3 and try and bring about a true World Government out of it, just as the leauge of nations was brought out of WW1, and the United Nations out of WW2. This is why Israel and Iran are seemingly always at each other's throats today. If you read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike, you'll have a better understanding of their overall agenda. Always remember though, that just as the Apostles see Jesus Christ face to face and are His servants here on earth, the devil also reveals himself "as an angel of light" to the psychopath elitists of the world in order to attempt to control world affairs. The war in heaven literally continues on the earth today, and most people are unaware of it.

[davedancaptain of 1,000]

Alien origins is trash.

When the Bible speaks of "Nephalim" they are the corruption of humans (sons of God) mixing with neanderthal (sons of man). The product of this abomination was the Cro-Magnon (Giants)

Anthropology, Archeology, Genetics all show that humans and Neanderthal mixed.

The reason the NWO wants us to believe in aliens is #1 create another threat #2 get us to ignore government and religious authority.

Imagine if technically superior humanoids come from a distance star system? I'm sure we'd be impressed with all their gadgets and advanced science. Imagine them saying, "oh you sorry little earthlings. the source of your suffering poverty and war is so simple". If you want to be an advanced civilization like us then you need to have a united government like we do, and you need to stop worshipping Jehovah and worship the true god Lucifer.

D&C 130:55 I answer, Yes. But there are no angels who minister to this earth but those who do belong or have belonged to it.


If there are any visitors from another planet, they will come from Enoch's city of Zion and worship The Father and His Son. And they will "belong to this Earth" or "have belonged to it".

[Fairmindedcaptain of 1,000]

I agree that the History channel is a complete joke. Taking anything on there as truth is a silly thing to do.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

When the Bible speaks of "Nephalim" they are the corruption of humans (sons of God) mixing with neanderthal (sons of man). The product of this abomination was the Cro-Magnon (Giants)

That is a theory I had never heard. However, sub-Saharan blacks do not have any of the mix with Neanderthal genes from what I understand. Everyone else does.

Rather than aliens I suppose the "sons of God" might have been genetically modified humans but modified by humans themselves. To believe that the pre-flood people were just a bunch of farmers and goat herders I believe is naive.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

Just wondering if people really understand the influence that Madam Blavatsky and Aliester Crowley have had on modern culture.





Other that the interesting rumor that Crowley is George W's grand daddy there are a lot more substantiated connections with modern society and the influence of the occultists of the late 1800s and beyond.

[sourcedistcaptain of 100]

Just wondering if people really understand the influence that Madam Blavatsky and Aliester Crowley have had on modern culture.

Does it seem odd that someone of English heritage is responsible for the spreading of the opposing belief system ? Not odd at all.

On one hand you have the 1st prophet of the LDS Church.

On the other hand you have AC, who I would consider the "founder' of the latter day opposing church.

He too wrote a latter day book on ancient knowledge written for the people of this day.

He then used this book to send forth missionaries.. They too shouted/shout from the roof tops and declared/declare to the whole world this opposing belief system.

These missionaries had/have at their disposal the opposing one's main gift and talent........ music.

Who were AC's early day missionaries?

The Beatles
Rolling Stones
Led Zepplin
Ozzy

The world all seemed to turn upside down after the dispatch of these first group of missionaries.. See "British Invasion"

Something about the Brits that make them a mighty spiritual people. So much so, that the "founder" of each church was taken from this lineage.

[sourcedistcaptain of 100]

To add some more thought to the matter..

The Gospel relies on the Holy Ghost to manifest truth.

The opposition has to use another tool to touch the soul.. that tool is music.

Both probably utilize the same set of frequencies to communicate with one's soul..

Since the oppostion was a master of all musicians, I wonder if this talent led to his eternal demise?

More to thoughts to come.. The day calls.

Just wondering if people really understand the influence that Madam Blavatsky and Aliester Crowley have had on modern culture.

Does it seem odd that someone of English heritage is responsible for the spreading of the opposing belief system ? Not odd at all.

On one hand you have the 1st prophet of the LDS Church.

On the other hand you have AC, who I would consider the "founder' of the latter day opposing church.

He too wrote a latter day book on ancient knowledge written for the people of this day.

He then used this book to send forth missionaries.. They too shouted/shout from the roof tops and declared/declare to the whole world this opposing belief system.

These missionaries had/have at their disposal the opposing one's main gift and talent........ music.

Who were AC's early day missionaries?

The Beatles
Rolling Stones
Led Zepplin
Ozzy

The world all seemed to turn upside down after the dispatch of these first group of missionaries.. See "British Invasion"

Something about the Brits that make them a mighty spiritual people. So much so, that the "founder" of each church was taken from this lineage.

[Fiannancaptain of 1,000]

What do people know of channeling? I have heard a lot of actors/actresses as well as writers have used it. I also heard one guy wrote a novel with a NWO theme without ever studying the occult background of the stuff and was freaked out when he researched the topic and found everything he had written seemed to mirror the occult symbology and rituals associated with these groups.

[sixgunsuecaptain of 100]

Actually Adam Weishaupe is the father of modern oppositional thought. he planted the seeds that infiltrated every society in Europe, secret or otherwise and then eventually I came to America. It was his teachings that trained the fathers and grandfathers of the bankers who came here from Europe to create the Federal Reserve and set up the NWO. Interestingly his teachings gaining popularity among elite circles of Europe coincide directly on the timeline of the restoration of the Church of Jesus Christ.
There's a reason Christ, threw the bankers out of the temple.

[buffalo_girlcaptain of 1,000]

Actually Adam Weishaupe is the father of modern oppositional thought. he planted the seeds that infiltrated every society in Europe, secret or otherwise and then eventually I came to America. It was his teachings that trained the fathers and grandfathers of the bankers who came here from Europe to create the Federal Reserve and set up the NWO. Interestingly his teachings gaining popularity among elite circles of Europe coincide directly on the timeline of the restoration of the Church of Jesus Christ.
There's a reason Christ, threw the bankers out of the temple.

Hey, sixgun!

You know, I think the 'occult origins of the NWO ideology' trace directly to Cain. Plato outlined the template for a new world order in the Republic. He probably got the architecture of that concept from a more ancient occult belief system.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge ... balist.htm

Plato: Architect of the New World Order

It was in his Republic that Plato articulated the basis of the future totalitarian state, ruled by the elite, or “philosopher kings”, or “guardians”, instructed in the Kabbalah. Essentially, The Republic provided the basis for all future Illuminati projects, including communism, the elimination of marriage and the family, compulsory education, the use of eugenics by the state, and the employment of deceptive propaganda methods.

According to Plato, “all these women shall be wives in common to all the men, and not one of them shall live privately with any man; the children too should be held in common so that no parent shall know which is his own offspring, and no child shall know his parent.” ii This belief is associated with a need for eugenics, as “the best men must cohabit with the best women in as many cases as possible and the worst with the worst in the fewest, and that the offspring of the one must be reared and that of the other not, if the flock is to be as perfect as possible.” More pernicious still is his prescription for infanticide: “The offspring of the inferior, and any of those of the other sort who are born defective, they will properly dispose of in secret, so that no one will know what has become of them. That is the condition of preserving the purity of the guardians’ breed.”