"A piss-poor excuse for a mormon"

[reesecaptain of 1,000]

"A Piss-Poor Excuse For A Mormon" ....
....I find it curious that a great number of evangelical Christians oppose Mitt Romney on the grounds that he is a Mormon, yet what truly distinguishes him in my eyes is his clear rejection of Mormon fundamentals. In truth, Mitt Romney has much more in common with those so-called "Christians" who advocate a religion of blood and thunder than he does with the founder of his own faith.

A Romney presidency would be no different than the presidencies of Clinton, Bush, and Obama -except of course far worse. And in contradistinction to those starry-eyed members who think Romney's rise will "do wonders for the missionary effort," Mitt Romney in the White House would be a public relations disaster for the Church, undoing the decades of delicate rehab performed by Gordon B. Hinckley....

http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/

I thought some of you might find this piece interesting.

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

I 100% agree w/ his views on Mitt. Sadly, I think we're still screwed as a nation, because everyone in the pack running is corrupt about something that will help the gadiantons bring to pass their plans.

-- Geoff

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

"A Piss-Poor Excuse For A Mormon" ....
....I find it curious that a great number of evangelical Christians oppose Mitt Romney on the grounds that he is a Mormon, yet what truly distinguishes him in my eyes is his clear rejection of Mormon fundamentals. In truth, Mitt Romney has much more in common with those so-called "Christians" who advocate a religion of blood and thunder than he does with the founder of his own faith.

A Romney presidency would be no different than the presidencies of Clinton, Bush, and Obama -except of course far worse. And in contradistinction to those starry-eyed members who think Romney's rise will "do wonders for the missionary effort," Mitt Romney in the White House would be a public relations disaster for the Church, undoing the decades of delicate rehab performed by Gordon B. Hinckley....

http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/

I thought some of you might find this piece interesting.

That is your opinion. I Dissagree. Knowbody knows how effective MItt Romney will be in the White House. You are simply predicting.
Its you people who are starry eyed. I do hope a moderator talks to you about the name calling, Its not necessary!

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

That is your opinion. I Dissagree. Knowbody knows how effective MItt Romney will be in the White House. You are simply predicting.
Its you people who are starry eyed. I do hope a moderator talks to you about the name calling, Its not necessary!

No, that wasn't Reese's opinion... or at least he didn't state it as such. He simply posted it as an informative link. Unless he's the blog owner, which he didn't allude to.

So, why on earth would a moderator talk to him about name calling? He did no such thing.

-- Geoff

[JasonI am a nobody!]

"A Piss-Poor Excuse For A Mormon" ....
....I find it curious that a great number of evangelical Christians oppose Mitt Romney on the grounds that he is a Mormon, yet what truly distinguishes him in my eyes is his clear rejection of Mormon fundamentals. In truth, Mitt Romney has much more in common with those so-called "Christians" who advocate a religion of blood and thunder than he does with the founder of his own faith.

A Romney presidency would be no different than the presidencies of Clinton, Bush, and Obama -except of course far worse. And in contradistinction to those starry-eyed members who think Romney's rise will "do wonders for the missionary effort," Mitt Romney in the White House would be a public relations disaster for the Church, undoing the decades of delicate rehab performed by Gordon B. Hinckley....

http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/

I thought some of you might find this piece interesting.

That is your opinion. I Dissagree. Knowbody knows how effective MItt Romney will be in the White House. You are simply predicting.
Its you people who are starry eyed. I do hope a moderator talks to you about the name calling, Its not necessary!

Coming from the same person who was just kicking OI when he opened himself up by sharing some of his problems/challenges???

[Original_Intentcaptain of 1,000]

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http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/

I thought some of you might find this piece interesting.

That is your opinion. I Dissagree. Knowbody knows how effective MItt Romney will be in the White House. You are simply predicting.
Its you people who are starry eyed. I do hope a moderator talks to you about the name calling, Its not necessary!

Coming from the same person who was just kicking OI when he opened himself up by sharing some of his problems/challenges???

I appreciate the defense, but I must have missed the kick - she said she thought I was going to sing a song (which I intentionally set up with the thread title) and I really don;t see how you could take what she said as an attack on me...again I appreciate the defense, but other than a rough patch when she first came, Juliette and I are getting along fine (I think).

[LikeMember]

Knowbody knows how effective MItt Romney will be in the White House.

If Mitt"s history gives us a clue I bet he will very effective.

[JasonI am a nobody!]

That is your opinion. I Dissagree. Knowbody knows how effective MItt Romney will be in the White House. You are simply predicting.
Its you people who are starry eyed. I do hope a moderator talks to you about the name calling, Its not necessary!

Coming from the same person who was just kicking OI when he opened himself up by sharing some of his problems/challenges???

I appreciate the defense, but I must have missed the kick - she said she thought I was going to sing a song (which I intentionally set up with the thread title) and I really don;t see how you could take what she said as an attack on me...again I appreciate the defense, but other than a rough patch when she first came, Juliette and I are getting along fine (I think).

Glad to hear I misunderstood what she was saying....she certainly has spunk and has been a bit harsh at times....my bag on the misread...sorry!

[Thomascaptain of 1,000]

Effective at what. Delivering us to our slaughter. Wolf in sheeps clothing for sure.

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

Effective at what. Delivering us to our slaughter. Wolf in sheeps clothing for sure.

I totally agree... I just wonder if he gets the nomination and something happens right off the bat, if the persecution of the saints will begin full force. That's one more reason I can't fathom voting for him at all.

-- Geoff

[AshleyBcaptain of 1,000]

LOL, This is funny because all this time I had no idea reese was a mod.

[AussieOicaptain of 1,000]

Effective at what. Delivering us to our slaughter. Wolf in sheeps clothing for sure.

I don't necessarily agree with that

but I don't believe he has shown willingness to not compromise what I regard as core gospel values which are not consistent with politics.

Hatch, Harry Reid, others, have shown that even with power,m they do nothing, and in fact tend to perpetuate the machine of the gadianton

we have this view that there are men in back rooms pushing some type of wicked combination

maybe they're all just like Obama. they mean well, but too afraid to make a difference, and become part of the problem

[Thomascaptain of 1,000]

I think the Gads use power hungry people to do their bidding. They will stretch their values a little to remain in the game. The Gads control congress through the party system. If a senator or congressman doesn't vote the way they are told, party funds are withheld. These funds are needed for them to retain their postion of power. Soon they have compromised so much they are slave to the system. They are addicted to the power. The Gads also control the election process through rigging the vote count and media manipulation. Romney seems to have compromised at every turn in order to gain office. The Gads will manipulate the system to put the person in office, that will do their bidding. Private hands own the money printing presses. They can buy a lot politics with that money. There is no limit to it.

I think they use blackmail as well to control politicians. There are stories of pedophiles throughout Washington DC. Politicians are offered all kinds of immoral or forbidden types of enticements. If they accept them, they will be filmed and that film can used to enforce any type of vote the Gads want. I'm not saying Romney is doing these kind of things but I think he is power hungry and would compromise to obtain the office. On the other hand maybe the Gads are not confident enough that they can control him and will cause him to lose. In any case, Romney has spoken of his support of the unconstitutional NDAA, which is reason enough to believe he will lead us to destruction.

[gruden2.0captain of 100]

Effective at what. Delivering us to our slaughter. Wolf in sheeps clothing for sure.

I don't necessarily agree with that

but I don't believe he has shown willingness to not compromise what I regard as core gospel values which are not consistent with politics.

Hatch, Harry Reid, others, have shown that even with power,m they do nothing, and in fact tend to perpetuate the machine of the gadianton

we have this view that there are men in back rooms pushing some type of wicked combination

maybe they're all just like Obama. they mean well, but too afraid to make a difference, and become part of the problem

No, you got it right first. Romney made his deals with the Gadiantons of our day. He is a mormon in name only now. He has lost his way. He wants to please the people of the great and spacious building and has been working very hard at it, even by the standards of modern politics.

[Sarielcaptain of 100]

I hadn't seen this before. I wanted to be neutral about Romney; I just can't be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgYLBk_0t6w

[dausercaptain of 100]

They made me precinct chairman and a voting deligate because I was LDS.

The same people voted for Romney... for the same reason...

They did not know I was a Ron Paul supporter... like they do not know Romney.

If you teach a man to fish they loose a socialist voter.
Most people are publically educated and cannot wrap their minds around freedom. Most have never read the Constitution or the Bill Of Rights. Most people do not understand the proper role of government or have the capacity to control power or keep their fingers off another man's goods. Most people cannot take responsibility for their lives. Most have not read the Book Of Mormon who's second purpose is to expose the enemies of Christ in graphic and chilling detail. Government has bought off most people.

Television and Government dependees voted for Romney, what can you expect.

[Nancaptain of 1,000]

Dauser, sounds like you were not honest. How come?

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

Dauser, sounds like you were not honest. How come?

I was thinking the same thing Nan...

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

Dauser, sounds like you were not honest. How come?

I was thinking the same thing Nan...

Hrm... You'll question him on the forum, but when Romney does the same thing you stand up for him? Go figure.

[Nancaptain of 1,000]

Funny how Ron Paul supports seem to be okay with dishonesty when it comes to themselves or Ron Paul yet run around screaming that everyone else is dishonest.

[Rensaicaptain of 100]

Funny how Ron Paul supports seem to be okay with dishonesty when it comes to themselves or Ron Paul yet run around screaming that everyone else is dishonest.

It seems to me like you're reading too much into his words. To me it sounds like he is saying that they made the assumption he would support Romney simply because he is LDS. No where did he say he was questioned and lied.

The bigger issue here is that they would make that assumption. I don't think they would assume that unless it were generally a safe bet. Its disgusting to me to see how many LDS line up behind Romney simply because he is LDS. Many people were outraged in 2008 when so many black people were openly admitting they knew nothing about Obama but planned to vote for him anyway because he was black. Now many of those same people line up to do the same with Romney; and people wonder why our leaders are a joke and our country has all but destroyed itself.

[LateOutOfBedcaptain of 100]

Funny how Ron Paul supports seem to be okay with dishonesty when it comes to themselves or Ron Paul yet run around screaming that everyone else is dishonest.

It seems to me like you're reading too much into his words. To me it sounds like he is saying that they made the assumption he would support Romney simply because he is LDS. No where did he say he was questioned and lied.

The bigger issue here is that they would make that assumption. I don't think they would assume that unless it were generally a safe bet. Its disgusting to me to see how many LDS line up behind Romney simply because he is LDS. Many people were outraged in 2008 when so many black people were openly admitting they knew nothing about Obama but planned to vote for him anyway because he was black. Now many of those same people line up to do the same with Romney; and people wonder why our leaders are a joke and our country has all but destroyed itself.

Exactly. Well said Rensai.

-- Geoff

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

Funny how Ron Paul supports seem to be okay with dishonesty when it comes to themselves or Ron Paul yet run around screaming that everyone else is dishonest.

It seems to me like you're reading too much into his words. To me it sounds like he is saying that they made the assumption he would support Romney simply because he is LDS. No where did he say he was questioned and lied.

The bigger issue here is that they would make that assumption. I don't think they would assume that unless it were generally a safe bet. Its disgusting to me to see how many LDS line up behind Romney simply because he is LDS. Many people were outraged in 2008 when so many black people were openly admitting they knew nothing about Obama but planned to vote for him anyway because he was black. Now many of those same people line up to do the same with Romney; and people wonder why our leaders are a joke and our country has all but destroyed itself.

Rensai, I don't think we LDS people are as foolish as you say. I for one, am pro-Mitt Romney. Not because he is mormon, because I think he is an amazing business man who can turn this nation around, if thats even possible. You believe in the constitution, in freedom of speech, in our right to bear arms, but you find it disqusting that we vote for the candidate of our choice? I call that talking in circles.

[Rensaicaptain of 100]

Funny how Ron Paul supports seem to be okay with dishonesty when it comes to themselves or Ron Paul yet run around screaming that everyone else is dishonest.

It seems to me like you're reading too much into his words. To me it sounds like he is saying that they made the assumption he would support Romney simply because he is LDS. No where did he say he was questioned and lied.

The bigger issue here is that they would make that assumption. I don't think they would assume that unless it were generally a safe bet. Its disgusting to me to see how many LDS line up behind Romney simply because he is LDS. Many people were outraged in 2008 when so many black people were openly admitting they knew nothing about Obama but planned to vote for him anyway because he was black. Now many of those same people line up to do the same with Romney; and people wonder why our leaders are a joke and our country has all but destroyed itself.

Rensai, I don't think we LDS people are as foolish as you say. I for one, am pro-Mitt Romney. Not because he is mormon, because I think he is an amazing business man who can turn this nation around, if thats even possible. You believe in the constitution, in freedom of speech, in our right to bear arms, but you find it disqusting that we vote for the candidate of our choice? I call that talking in circles.

No, as I clearly said, what I find disquieting is that many LDS who support Romeny know next to nothing about him or his views. If you have really researched it, know his views, etc and still support Romney that is fine. I never said otherwise. But it is irresponsible and wrong to support him simply because you have religion in common. That is all I said. Don't put words into my mouth.

[Juliettecaptain of 1,000]

Ok, sorry about the words in your mouth! I just don't think the LDS people would support a candidate without knowing anything about him. I've heard all the arguments, NDAA, TARP, etc. And I understand why everyone wants Ron Paul. We have to be realistic however.
Anything is better than Obama for 4 more years of destruction. If Ron Paul made the nomination, I would vote for him. But he won't, and I will vote for Romney if he does. I feel totally justified in my opinions.

[JasonI am a nobody!]

Ok, sorry about the words in your mouth! I just don't think the LDS people would support a candidate without knowing anything about him. I've heard all the arguments, NDAA, TARP, etc. And I understand why everyone wants Ron Paul. We have to be realistic however.
Anything is better than Obama for 4 more years of destruction. If Ron Paul made the nomination, I would vote for him. But he won't, and I will vote for Romney if he does. I feel totally justified in my opinions.

The Obama supporters said the same thing with regard to 4 more years of Bush via McCain....and yet the Bush agenda is still in force....

[bobhenstracaptain of 1,000]

I suppose I'll have to say my piece on this thread, having kept my political opinions "secret" for so long

I'm voting for Mitt simply because he holds the Holy Priesthood, "If" that fact requires him to be a-- Mormon then so be it--- I'm voting for Mitt specifically because I'm looking for our version of Hezekiah, the politically leader that lead ancient Israel, who entered the Holy Temple to pray for guidance, (which obviously meant he held the Holy Priesthood)! Isaiah, the Holy Prophet at the time, then relayed the Lord's will to Hezekiah! That's the specific combination I'm looking for.

Rick Santorum is not a member, besides the fact he is the only one who has even a ghost of a chance to catch Mitt, Rick does not hold the Priesthood, and there for has absolutely no chance of conferring with the Lord through our Prophet.

The glib tongued Newt has no chance of catching Mitt or even conferring with the true Prophet

And, folks, as hard as this is going to be for some of you to hear, besides the fact he also has no chance of winning, no chance of being able to confer with the Prophet, it's an actual fact that Ron Paul's only purpose for staying in the race is he wants to a speaking spot at the convention!

Therefore I suggest that Dr. Paul will need all the help he can get from you guys to secure that speaking post. He'll need at least $5000 a month from each of you at least until after June so he can retain his very solid position at 4th in the delegate count, if he loses that position, he'll lose his speaking spot! Any amount less than $5000 a month will demonstrate your lack luster support for your guy Ron! Refinance your homes, sell your cars, do what ever it takes to place your guy in that speaking spot----

I remain--

Bob Henstra

Me? I'm indifferent if Ron Paul speaks at the convention, means nothing to me!

[JasonI am a nobody!]

I suppose I'll have to say my piece on this thread, having kept my political opinions "secret" for so long

I'm voting for Mitt simply because he holds the Holy Priesthood, "If" that fact requires him to be a-- Mormon then so be it--- I'm voting for Mitt specifically because I'm looking for our version of Hezekiah, the politically leader that lead ancient Israel, who entered the Holy Temple to pray for guidance, (which obviously meant he held the Holy Priesthood)! Isaiah, the Holy Prophet at the time, then relayed the Lord's will to Hezekiah! That's the specific combination I'm looking for.

Rick Santorum is not a member, besides the fact he is the only one who has even a ghost of a chance to catch Mitt, Rick does not hold the Priesthood, and there for has absolutely no chance of conferring with the Lord through our Prophet.

The glib tongued Newt has no chance of catching Mitt or even conferring with the true Prophet

And, folks, as hard as this is going to be for some of you to hear, besides the fact he also has no chance of winning, no chance of being able to confer with the Prophet, it's an actual fact that Ron Paul's only purpose for staying in the race is he wants to a speaking spot at the convention!

Therefore I suggest that Dr. Paul will need all the help he can get from you guys to secure that speaking post. He'll need at least $5000 a month from each of you at least until after June so he can retain his very solid position at 4th in the delegate count, if he loses that position, he'll lose his speaking spot! Any amount less than $5000 a month will demonstrate your lack luster support for your guy Ron! Refinance your homes, sell your cars, do what ever it takes to place your guy in that speaking spot----

I remain--

Bob Henstra

Me? I'm indifferent if Ron Paul speaks at the convention, means nothing to me!

Well with all that gadianton funding your man will likely get the chance to figure out if he's a Hezekiah or not....

[DrJonescaptain of 1,000]

Zbigniew Brzezinski (sp? lol) ridicules Mitt and all the Repub candidates: http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com ... f=obinsite

Zbig is one of the upper gadiantons? he was invited for a speech at BYU not too long after VP Dick Cheney was given an honorary PhD by BYU, that's just a fact.

I notice the media is pushing for ANOTHER candidate, naming Jeb Bush often...

[AGStackercaptain of 100]

"because I think he is an amazing business man"

^ This, is a "piss-poor excuse" for voting someone into office. How about how serious he takes his oath of office?