Water Vapor is 97% of Greenhouse gases; Man's CO2 is 1% !!!

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KMCopeland wrote:
Thinker wrote:KM,I appreciate your reply except you didn't address the huge elephant in the room... How are we so many billions of dollars better off for having spent it on "weather change"?
I'm not sure how to answer this. I'm not familiar with the specific things you say we spent billions of dollars on so far. Tell me what they are, and I'll take it from there.
Thinker wrote:Why is it the claims of human-caused global warming historically prove to be false?
Tell me which claims you mean.
How about $120 Billion in the past 5 years for starters?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mel ... buy-1400-f" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Obama Wasted $120 Billion on Global Warming

(CNSNews.com) - Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Wednesday at a hearing on the Defense Department’s Fiscal Year 2015 budget that President Barack Obama has wasted $120 billion on global warming over the past five years – money that would be better spent on the military.

“I've been working on this for quite some time ... In the last five years, between 2009 and 2014, the president has spent $120 billion on the environmental agenda, mostly global warming, climate and that type of thing,” said Inhofe. “And in that respect, if you'll just take the amount that was not authorized by Congress -- and I'm talking about the environmental agenda, you could actually buy 1,400 F-35s.”
:-o :-o :-o

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Army Of Truth wrote:The power elites have told us that the world will come to an end if we do not reduce our consumption of fossil fuels, and lower our output of carbon dioxide (CO2).
See, it's the power elite that's telling you that global warming is a hoax. They're the ones spending all the money to discredit it. They hate it. If we listen to state of the art scientific consensus and do something, their petroleum-fueled gravy train will come to a screeching halt. They don't want us to listen. They have a lot to lose if we listen. So they are who's funding all the global warming denial organizations, and movements, and spokesmen. It's a testament to their effectiveness that you think the people who are telling you the truth are lying.


It takes a little digging. But you can find out who's really behind the push to discredit climate change science. If you really want to know.

And Al Gore is no power elite. He's the one they targeted first. With impressive results.

It's depressing.

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KMCopeland wrote:
Army Of Truth wrote:The power elites have told us that the world will come to an end if we do not reduce our consumption of fossil fuels, and lower our output of carbon dioxide (CO2).
See, it's the power elite that's telling you that global warming is a hoax. They're the ones spending all the money to discredit it. They hate it. If we listen to state of the art scientific consensus and do something, their petroleum-fueled gravy train will come to a screeching halt. They don't want us to listen. They have a lot to lose if we listen. So they are who's funding all the global warming denial organizations, and movements, and spokesmen. It's a testament to their effectiveness that you think the people who are telling you the truth are lying.


It takes a little digging. But you can find out who's really behind the push to discredit climate change science. If you really want to know.

And Al Gore is no power elite. He's the one they targeted first. With impressive results.

It's depressing.
Actually, the power elites are telling us that global warming is real! That is why they want people to lower their carbon output.

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KMCopeland wrote:See, it's the power elite that's telling you that global warming is a hoax. They're the ones spending all the money to discredit it.
This is completely asinine! The "elites" are the world banksters who originated and fully support and promote the "green" human-made-CO2-causes-global-warming fraud. These banks are slated to trade and give out "carbon credit" garbage. You are a liar or a fool. But I don't think you are a fool, except that you are choosing to lie.

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Brilliant quotes AOT. Thanks!

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Army Of Truth wrote:
KMCopeland wrote:
Army Of Truth wrote:The power elites have told us that the world will come to an end if we do not reduce our consumption of fossil fuels, and lower our output of carbon dioxide (CO2).
See, it's the power elite that's telling you that global warming is a hoax. They're the ones spending all the money to discredit it. They hate it. If we listen to state of the art scientific consensus and do something, their petroleum-fueled gravy train will come to a screeching halt. They don't want us to listen. They have a lot to lose if we listen. So they are who's funding all the global warming denial organizations, and movements, and spokesmen. It's a testament to their effectiveness that you think the people who are telling you the truth are lying.


It takes a little digging. But you can find out who's really behind the push to discredit climate change science. If you really want to know.

And Al Gore is no power elite. He's the one they targeted first. With impressive results.

It's depressing.
Actually, the power elites are telling us that global warming is real! That is why they want people to lower their carbon output.

While they use their corporate jets to fly halfway around the world to a non descript town in Switzerland to discuss...this very thing!

Hypocrites!

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Army Of Truth wrote:
KMCopeland wrote:
Army Of Truth wrote:The power elites have told us that the world will come to an end if we do not reduce our consumption of fossil fuels, and lower our output of carbon dioxide (CO2).
See, it's the power elite that's telling you that global warming is a hoax. They're the ones spending all the money to discredit it. They hate it. If we listen to state of the art scientific consensus and do something, their petroleum-fueled gravy train will come to a screeching halt. They don't want us to listen. They have a lot to lose if we listen. So they are who's funding all the global warming denial organizations, and movements, and spokesmen. It's a testament to their effectiveness that you think the people who are telling you the truth are lying.


It takes a little digging. But you can find out who's really behind the push to discredit climate change science. If you really want to know.

And Al Gore is no power elite. He's the one they targeted first. With impressive results.

It's depressing.
Actually, the power elites are telling us that global warming is real! That is why they want people to lower their carbon output.
I guess we just have a real different concept of who the power elites are.

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Army Of Truth wrote:
KMCopeland wrote:
Thinker wrote:KM,I appreciate your reply except you didn't address the huge elephant in the room... How are we so many billions of dollars better off for having spent it on "weather change"?
I'm not sure how to answer this. I'm not familiar with the specific things you say we spent billions of dollars on so far. Tell me what they are, and I'll take it from there.
Thinker wrote:Why is it the claims of human-caused global warming historically prove to be false?
Tell me which claims you mean.
How about $120 Billion in the past 5 years for starters?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mel ... buy-1400-f" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Obama Wasted $120 Billion on Global Warming

(CNSNews.com) - Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Wednesday at a hearing on the Defense Department’s Fiscal Year 2015 budget that President Barack Obama has wasted $120 billion on global warming over the past five years – money that would be better spent on the military.

“I've been working on this for quite some time ... In the last five years, between 2009 and 2014, the president has spent $120 billion on the environmental agenda, mostly global warming, climate and that type of thing,” said Inhofe. “And in that respect, if you'll just take the amount that was not authorized by Congress -- and I'm talking about the environmental agenda, you could actually buy 1,400 F-35s.”
James Imhofe is the wrong guy to quote on this, but even if he weren't, all he did was pull a figure out of his hat, and then claim Obama spent it. It tells us nothing about how it got spent. It's the same thing as Thinker did -- throwing out a number and hoping it sticks to the wall.

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Man-made Global Warming is Fraud

By Walter E. Williams
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“But the debate is settled. Climate change is a fact,” said President Barack Obama in his 2014 State of the Union address. Saying the debate is settled is nonsense, but the president is right about climate change. GlobalChange.gov gives the definition of climate change: “Changes in average weather conditions that persist over multiple decades or longer. Climate change encompasses both increases and decreases in temperature, as well as shifts in precipitation, changing risk of certain types of severe weather events, and changes to other features of the climate system.” That definition covers all weather phenomena throughout all 4.54 billion years of Earth’s existence.

You say, “Williams, that’s not what the warmers are talking about. It’s the high CO2 levels caused by mankind’s industrial activities that are causing the climate change!” There’s a problem with that reasoning. Today CO2 concentrations worldwide average about 380 parts per million. This level of CO2 concentration is trivial compared with the concentrations during earlier geologic periods. For example, 460 million years ago, during the Ordovician Period, CO2 concentrations were 4,400 ppm, and temperatures then were about the same as they are today. With such high levels of CO2, at least according to the warmers, the Earth should have been boiling.


Then there are warmer predictions. In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, warmers, such as the Union of Concerned Scientists, made all manner of doomsday predictions about global warming and the increased frequency of hurricanes. According to the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, “no Category 3-5 hurricane has struck the United States for a record nine years, and Earth’s temperature has not budged for 18 years.”

Climate change predictions have been wrong for decades. Let’s look at some. At the first Earth Day celebration, in 1969, environmentalist Nigel Calder warned, “The threat of a new ice age must now stand alongside nuclear war as a likely source of wholesale death and misery for mankind.” C.C. Wallen of the World Meteorological Organization said, “The cooling since 1940 has been large enough and consistent enough that it will not soon be reversed.” In 1968, Professor Paul Ehrlich predicted that there would be a major food shortage in the U.S. and that “in the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people (would) starve to death.” Ehrlich forecasted that 65 million Americans would die of starvation between 1980 and 1989 and that by 1999, the U.S. population would have declined to 22.6 million. Ehrlich’s predictions about England were gloomier. He said, “If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.”

In 1970, Harvard University biologist George Wald predicted, “Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” Sen. Gaylord Nelson, in Look magazine in April 1970, said that by 1995, “somewhere between 75 and 85 percent of all the species of living animals (would) be extinct.”

Climate change propaganda is simply a ruse for a socialist agenda. Consider the statements of some environmentalist leaders. Christiana Figueres, the U.N.’s chief climate change official, said that her unelected bureaucrats are undertaking “probably the most difficult task” they have ever given themselves, “which is to intentionally transform the (global) economic development model.” In 2010, German economist and Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change official Ottmar Edenhofer said, “One must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy.” The article in which that interview appeared summarized Edenhofer’s views this way: “Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection. … The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated.”

The most disgusting aspect of the climate change debate is the statements by many that it’s settled science. There is nothing more anti-scientific than the idea that any science is settled. Very often we find that the half-life of many scientific ideas is about 50 years. For academics to not criticize their colleagues and politicians for suggesting that scientific ideas are not subject to challenge is the height of academic dishonesty.

The Best of Walter E. Williams

Walter E. Williams is the John M. Olin distinguished professor of economics at George Mason University, and a nationally syndicated columnist. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate columnists and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate web page.


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It's not global warming. It's orbit decay.

We are all going to die..... eventually . oh wait That was already going to happen.

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Bottom line: man made pollution must be reduced, but not via a global carbon tax which makes no sense, and attempts to justify such tax by blaming human produced CO2 as the cause of global warming is nonsensical, illogical, and if enforced, immoral and unjust.

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LoveIsTruth wrote: January 27th, 2015, 10:57 pm
KMCopeland wrote:See, it's the power elite that's telling you that global warming is a hoax. They're the ones spending all the money to discredit it.
This is completely asinine! The "elites" are the world banksters who originated and fully support and promote the "green" human-made-CO2-causes-global-warming fraud. These banks are slated to trade and give out "carbon credit" garbage. You are a liar or a fool. But I don't think you are a fool, except that you are choosing to lie.
Thank you for your great choice of word. :ymapplause:

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O. T. E. C. is my favorite acronym that seldom do I hear included in said abundant spewage engaged in by both sides of the argument. What gives with that? It's as though arguing about a problem supersedes common sense.

OTEC has tremendous potential to do so many things, yet few mention that it's the one form of energy that is net-cooling AND emits zero carbon. Here's a bit of conversation that shows LDS leadership gets it.
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Dozens of OTEC projects are gaining momentum and hopefully will come to fruition in time to provide places of refuge before calamity comes to call.

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LoveIsTruth wrote: September 26th, 2014, 6:52 pm Fishy Global WarmingBy Dr. Tim Ball
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September 26, 2014 . . . . . It is one matter to get the science wrong, for which there is a scientific culpability. However, when you use bad or deliberately false science to direct public policy, there is a social responsibility for which there should be total accountability. A simple definition of science is the ability to predict. The UN meeting is based on the predictions of the IPCC that were so wrong from the start that they started calling them projections, but even those were wrong. It doesn’t require an understanding of science to know that their predictions (projections) failed, which raises the question, how much “due diligence” did DiCaprio apply in his desire to bring peace? He has the freedom to speak, but as Oliver Wendell Holmes said it must not be a falsity, otherwise there is liability.

Reprinted with the permission from Dr. Tim Ball.


Read more here.
This is an excellent article. Thanks for posting.

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War with carbon, is war with LIFE on planet Earth!


Full article: https://www.infowars.com/environmentali ... net-earth/

Environmentalists who are at war with carbon are at war with LIFE

Just about every molecule you value — and nearly every molecule you’re made of — is made out of carbon. If you are at war with carbon, you are at war with LIFE on planet Earth. If you want to eliminate carbon dioxide, you are working to exterminate life. Yet probably 90% of college students today believe that carbon dioxide is a “pollutant” and they would politically support any effort to eliminate it, even if doing so resulted in global ecological collapse and the extinction of humanity.

Astonishingly, environmentalists have been so deeply brainwashed and deliberately mis-educated that they actually think carbon is bad. They must also hate themselves, since 96% of the human body is made of just four elements: Oxygen, Carbon, Hydrogen and Nitrogen. Roughly 18% of your body is carbon, by molecular weight. If you hate carbon, you hate yourself.

Maybe that’s why environmentalists are so full of hatred and ignorance: They are made of the very element they’ve declared war against. If you’ve ever wondered why Leftists are so angry all the time, it’s because they’re made of the very element they hate: Carbon.

Hydrocarbons release fresh carbon into the atmosphere where plants can use it to create valuable molecules that support life

Burning fossil fuels, by the way, means combusting hydrocarbons to release energy. One of the byproducts of burning fossil fuels is the release of CO2 into the atmosphere, providing fresh CO2 that plants are starving to harvest from the air. CO2 levels in the atmosphere right now are at near-emergency low levels of barely above 400 ppm. Forests, food crops and indigenous plants across the globe would flourish at double or triple the current level of CO2. If we had, for example, 1200 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere, the Earth would be greener and more lush.


Yet for some reason, environmentalists hate the thought of plants having more nutrients. They want the Earth to be “green,” they say, by eliminating CO2 from the atmosphere, taking away the single most important nutrient for photosynthesis and plant metabolism.

Read more:https://www.infowars.com/environmentali ... net-earth/
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Simply put, there is no future for the human race if the current breed of lunatic environmentalists are allowed to run their “death cult” programs that would shut down photosynthesis and exterminate all recognizable life on our planet. Thank God carbon dioxide is produced by every living mammal on the planet — including you — meaning that you can help save the planet by taking a jog and simply exhaling.


In the spirit of that simple, inescapable truth, I propose a new bumper sticker: Piss off a liberal. Just BREATHE.

The war on sunlight and the new scheme of “global dimming”

Waging war on carbon isn’t the end of the lunacy of whacko environmentalists. They also think there’s something wrong with sunlight, another key input for photosynthesis. They’ve launched a program of “global dimming” that seeks to literally pollute the atmosphere by dispersing millions of tons of smog (sulfur dioxide) into the atmosphere, running 4,000 flights a year over the next 15 years, all in the name of “geoengineering” the atmosphere. (These are the same lunatics who said “chemtrails” were a conspiracy theory; now they’ve re-named it “Stratospheric Aerosol Injection” and claim it will save the world.)


In essence, they are terraforming the Earth and making it uninhabitable by humans. Are they completely insane, or are they prepping the planet for colonization by something that isn’t human? (Coming soon: Terraforming.news)


See full coverage of that crucial issue at this story on Natural News called “Terraforming has begun: Global dimming is a plot to exterminate humanity.


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