Fed prints another $Trillion today! See what it looks like!!

[Glenn]

Here is a recent story about the pending break up of the EuroZone and possible inflationary or deflationary outcomes. Whatever the exact outcome it effects will reach us in some form.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/tw ... n-end-game

At the end of the day I believe there will be an attempt to transfer assets when everything comes to a head. The powers that be understand that money really is a counterfeit way to steal time/talents/labor and resources. Money is an attempt to exercise dominion and control in this world outside Godly priesthood authority. Thus money is the debt net used to enslave the world, with the aim of enslaving and transferring assets. These attempts will be legal/political at first and will progress into military confrontations.

I remember reading some historical accounts during the great depression when banks increasingly foreclosed on home/business owners in certain communities. These communities grew tired of seeing their neighbors evicted (knowing they would be next) so they united and physically prevented the transfer of assets/property to the banks. I suspect it will take that kind of mass unity to prevent the coming transfer of assets. Will we unite in such a manner; only time will tell.

edit = grammatical

[LoveIsTruth]

Interesting!

[Jason]

1) Who are the creditors?
2) You mention inability to pay them back due to political reasons (care to expound on that?)....wouldn't those same reasons cause problems with paying them cheap worthless paper? Wouldn't that be the same as just telling them to take a hike?

The creditors are a) Federal Reserve, b) Foreign lenders, c) Social Security recipients to whom the government owes over $75 Trillion in unfunded liabilities. These all will get paid (except perhaps the Federal Reserve), but they will get paid in worthless money.

Why would social security recipients get paid back but not the Federal Reserve? Who has more power/leverage?

Paying off with increasingly worthless money, is politically easier than just saying "take a hike." It is more subtle and more deceptive, so the politicians will do that rather than face the music outright.

What is happening in Europe right now? Are not the elected governments being replaced with banker governments and imposing austerity (forcing payment)???

Who owns/controls the politicians? Is it the people? Or those to whom all the money is owed?

How do you pay off debt with more debt? Is not increasing worthless money the same as "take a hike"? Or are these folks that ignorant...the ones we are indebted to who own everything?

3) Who prints and controls the money? Wouldn't happen to be the same folks who own and control government?

Yes. It is a shell game. The Fed will always print for the government as much money as the government needs, otherwise the congress will force the Fed do it by law, or will nationalize the Fed outright. In any case, the same people will do counterfeiting and profit by it, whether through a semi-private Fed, or through the Congress.

Wait a minute....who has the power - the Fed or Congress??? Who works for whom? Where do the people stand in this....like the social security folks mentioned earlier? What power do they have? Who owns and controls the military? Who is implementing a police state and why?

[Jason]

Here is a recent story about the pending break up of the EuroZone and possible inflationary or deflationary outcomes. Whatever the exact outcome it effects will reach us in some form.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/tw ... n-end-game

At the end of the day I believe there will be an attempt to transfer assets when everything comes to a head. The powers that be understand that money really is a counterfeit way to steal time/talents/labor and resources. Money is an attempt to exercise dominion and control in this world outside Godly priesthood authority. Thus money is the debt net used to enslave the world, with the aim of enslaving and transferring assets. These attempts will be legal/political at first and will progress into military confrontations.

I remember reading some historical accounts during the great depression when banks increasingly foreclosed on home/business owners in certain communities. These communities grew tired of seeing their neighbors evicted (knowing they would be next) so they united and physically prevented the transfer of assets/property to the banks. I suspect it will take that kind of mass unity to prevent the coming transfer of assets. Will we unite in such a manner; only time will tell.

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Well said!

There has been a certain about of that....uniting together and putting political influence at work to stave off the foreclosure process in nearly every state in the union. Hence it is now over two years to foreclose in a number of states. That said the timeline has been lengthened....but the process has not stopped. Also the tremendous amount of fraud committed in creating the debt...is going unpunished and instead the states are trying to settle with the banks to score some money such that they live a little longer....but the people (who are the greatest victims of the fraud) aren't getting jack diddly squat.

It is a war.....one that is just in the developing stages. A war for power and control. I believe they will fall into the pit they've dug....but when that appears to be the case...I think they'll unleash a nasty plague in a last ditch effort to get out of the pit. When the control structure completely fails....chaos will reign as the people don't have the morality to unite together in rebuilding efforts....they've gone so long on the government/socialist/communist tit (as well as being selfish to the core) that they'll just respond with violence and hate towards each other. And I reckon that those who are moral people and do unite together will end up ruling the roost when its all said and done.

[LoveIsTruth]

As I said, this is a shell game. The banksters use the government to give themselves the appearance of legitimacy and to control the people, therefore they, controlling the government, will pretend that the government is against the banksters, (for appearances sake to pacify the people), and they will nationalize the central bank (for appearances sake), but it will be the same people doing counterfeiting and doing the plunder, whether through the "Federal Reserve" or through the "Congress." The problem with fiat, unbacked money is NOT that a "private" bank is doing it, rather than the government, but that it is done at all. Just like concentration camps in Germany were bad not because a private company ran them rather than the government, but that they were ran at all.

So, for appearances sake, the Fed may not get paid, but the Social Security recipients will (with worthless money of course), while the banksters plunder the people via hyperinflation (as they get to spend the newly counterfeited "money" first).

[LoveIsTruth]

I am more optimistic about the immediate future than "Jason."

I think the banksters will try to consolidate power into one world dictatorship within 2 or 3 years, but they will fail. Too many people will wake up to the true principles of liberty, and will roll this shenanigans back (at least in part) for a generation or two.

[Glenn]

Glenn quote: At the end of the day I believe there will be an attempt to transfer assets when everything comes to a head. The powers that be understand that money really is a counterfeit way to steal time/talents/labor and resources. Money is an attempt to exercise dominion and control in this world outside Godly priesthood authority. Thus money is the debt net used to enslave the world, with the aim of enslaving and transferring assets. These attempts will be legal/political at first and will progress into military confrontations.

I remember reading some historical accounts during the great depression when banks increasingly foreclosed on home/business owners in certain communities. These communities grew tired of seeing their neighbors evicted (knowing they would be next) so they united and physically prevented the transfer of assets/property to the banks. I suspect it will take that kind of mass unity to prevent the coming transfer of assets. Will we unite in such a manner; only time will tell.

Jason quote: There has been a certain about of that....uniting together and putting political influence at work to stave off the foreclosure process in nearly every state in the union. Hence it is now over two years to foreclose in a number of states. That said the timeline has been lengthened....but the process has not stopped. Also the tremendous amount of fraud committed in creating the debt...is going unpunished and instead the states are trying to settle with the banks to score some money such that they live a little longer....but the people (who are the greatest victims of the fraud) aren't getting jack diddly squat.

It is a war.....one that is just in the developing stages. A war for power and control. I believe they will fall into the pit they've dug....but when that appears to be the case...I think they'll unleash a nasty plague in a last ditch effort to get out of the pit. When the control structure completely fails....chaos will reign as the people don't have the morality to unite together in rebuilding efforts....they've gone so long on the government/socialist/communist tit (as well as being selfish to the core) that they'll just respond with violence and hate towards each other. And I reckon that those who are moral people and do unite together will end up ruling the roost when its all said and done.

I think we are both beginning to look beyond the transitional phase to a time when the rubber actually meets the road. The economic noose is being tightened, but many allow the consolidation to continue because they still believe the rule of law is in effect, but in reality, the rule of law is being abolished. Eventually the ignorant masses will awaken to the grotesque fraud that has/is being committed. When they realize that the social contract they have lived under is gone massive conflict will ensue. Some will lash out indiscriminately in violence, yet others will band together to prevent the transfer of assets. Still other interests will continue to foreclose on their booty; this confiscation will result in military conflict, biological, or otherwise.......At the end the day this discussion is less about economics and more about the social and psychological impact of tyranny.

[Glenn]

Love Is Truth quote: I am more optimistic about the immediate future than "Jason."

I think the banksters will try to consolidate power into one world dictatorship within 2 or 3 years, but they will fail. Too many people will wake up to the true principles of liberty, and will roll this shenanigans back (at least in part) for a generation or two.

They may in fact fall into the pit they have dug for everyone else, but I suspect they will need to be pushed into it.

[Jason]

Love Is Truth quote: I am more optimistic about the immediate future than "Jason."

I think the banksters will try to consolidate power into one world dictatorship within 2 or 3 years, but they will fail. Too many people will wake up to the true principles of liberty, and will roll this shenanigans back (at least in part) for a generation or two.

They may in fact fall into the pit they have dug for everyone else, but I suspect they will need to be pushed into it.

Amen! I believe that is where the natural disasters come into play.....wiping out the supply chain (already on a tightrope) and throwing the whole control structure into chaos.

IF the Palmoni Scrolls interpretation of timing of events is correct.....should kick off in earnest here in the next 45 days (end of 1/2 hour of silence)....

[LoveIsTruth]

Love Is Truth quote: I am more optimistic about the immediate future than "Jason."

I think the banksters will try to consolidate power into one world dictatorship within 2 or 3 years, but they will fail. Too many people will wake up to the true principles of liberty, and will roll this shenanigans back (at least in part) for a generation or two.

They may in fact fall into the pit they have dug for everyone else, but I suspect they will need to be pushed into it.

Amen! I believe that is where the natural disasters come into play.....wiping out the supply chain (already on a tightrope) and throwing the whole control structure into chaos.

IF the Palmoni Scrolls interpretation of timing of events is correct.....should kick off in earnest here in the next 45 days (end of 1/2 hour of silence)....

Come-on Jason! Your timing of the second coming is off by at least 280 years!

[Jason]

Amen! I believe that is where the natural disasters come into play.....wiping out the supply chain (already on a tightrope) and throwing the whole control structure into chaos.

IF the Palmoni Scrolls interpretation of timing of events is correct.....should kick off in earnest here in the next 45 days (end of 1/2 hour of silence)....

Come-on Jason! Your timing of the second coming is off by at least 280 years!

Based on what?

[dennis]

The Euro Zone will Not Break Up

The trend is toward more central control. Not Less.

[LoveIsTruth]

Amen! I believe that is where the natural disasters come into play.....wiping out the supply chain (already on a tightrope) and throwing the whole control structure into chaos.

IF the Palmoni Scrolls interpretation of timing of events is correct.....should kick off in earnest here in the next 45 days (end of 1/2 hour of silence)....

Come-on Jason! Your timing of the second coming is off by at least 280 years!

Based on what?

http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopi ... 9&#p201629

[Jason]

Amen! I believe that is where the natural disasters come into play.....wiping out the supply chain (already on a tightrope) and throwing the whole control structure into chaos.

IF the Palmoni Scrolls interpretation of timing of events is correct.....should kick off in earnest here in the next 45 days (end of 1/2 hour of silence)....

Come-on Jason! Your timing of the second coming is off by at least 280 years!

Based on what?

http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopi ... 9&#p201629

1) Daniel 8:13-14
"… How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."

(It seems to point to year 2300 after the first coming of the Savior.)

I don't comprehend how you move from a description of time that will pass (time from point A to point B) to an exact year (point C).

fyi - If you couple Daniel's prophecies or translations of Nebuchadnezzar's dreams with the formula in Ezekiel 4:6 (a prophetic day actually equals a year)....they fall into place quite nicely.

In the begging of that chapter Daniel describes the little horn who will take away the daily sacrifice (sacrament) and well as destroy the church. Sacrament was done away with in 530AD as well as the destruction of the original church (casting truth to the ground) and the establishment of the Holy Roman Empire which went on to persecute the saints (1st and 2nd Reformations).

fyi - 481 BC to 1820 = 2300 years

Now when you tie in Daniel Chapter 12 verse 13 which also discusses the daily sacrifice (sacrament) being taken away (yes they all interrelate) you are told that it will be 1290 days until the desolation (restoration of the gospel) maketh them desolate.

fyi - 530 AD to 1820 = 1290 years

2) Jewish Calendar:
2011 is 5771 according to Jwish Calendar, which supposedly counts time since the Creation. On top of that according to Jewish tradition Adam was in the Garden of Eden after the creation for close to 70 years. Thus the Fall occurred somewhere in the year 70 according to Jewish calendar. This makes 6000 year since the Fall mark at approximately 2240+70 = 2310. Again very close proximity to the date 2300.

I'd love to see some references on that.

3) In the year 1830, the Prophet Joseph Smith received a revelation recorded in D&C 33, where the Lord in verse 3 says: “For behold, the field is white already to harvest; and it is the eleventh hour, and the last time that I shall call laborers into my vineyard.” We are taught by modern day prophets that there are approximately 6000 years from the Fall of Adam to the beginning of the Millennium (the seventh thousand years, the Sabbath of the Creation). The Bridegroom comes back at midnight in the 12th hour. So apparently the 6,000 years are divided into 12 parts “hours” which would make 1 hour 500 years. Well, 1800 + 500 = 2300, and 1830 is about 30 years into the 11th hour, since He said “it is the eleventh hour.”

There is another independent evidence that points to the same approximate date, but that one is personal, and I will not share it here. To me this last one is weightier than the preceding 3, but again, I will not share it here.

Some big assumptions there. Any other mention of what hour we are in at other time periods for reference?

Obviously I can't speak to the independent evidence but I definitely respect the fact that its personal.

Jacob Chapter 5 was a huge eye opener to me after digging into the Palmoni Scrolls. I also love the strong correlation in the Book of Mormon to our times prior to the Savior's return including the gadianton infiltration of government to the point where they gained sole management of the government which then took another 50 years for the combinations to disseminated down through the government to the point it was destroyed......then 3 1/2 years of tribes until the Savior returned. Correlates very nicely to the Palmoni Scroll predictions as well.

However it works out....time will tell the story!

These may be helpful to you -

Analysis of Daniel 7, 8, 9, 11, 12 Revelations 13, 17
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69835?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Daniel 2:
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69836?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Daniel 4:
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69584?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Analysis of the falling away time period and the rise of the little horn (establishment of the Holy Roman Empire):
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69521?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69444?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69421?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Implementation of the mark of the beast:
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69426?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Analysis of the 7 times as well as the time period of the Holy Roman Empire and Babylon the Great:
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69478?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Half hour of silence:
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/70656?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/70655?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Overview of the 7 seals (short and long versions):
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69425?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://gigapan.org/gigapans/69352?fulls ... irect=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[LoveIsTruth]

Here is an amazing graphical representation of derivative exposure of 9 biggest banks. Only fiat fraud makes this possible.

Click to see:


Be carefull, however, the article speaks of the dangers of "unregulated" markets. The only regulations you truly need are those imposed by Free Markets,-- the most stringent regulations,-- and MUCH stricter than bought out government regulators who actually allow the fraud. The regulations of Free Market are bankruptcy, and fraud prosecution. These are the only regulations one needs if justice is to prevail!

Note, that these astronomical derivatives do NOT become weapons of mass financial destruction unless a government bailout takes place. Then this mountain of debt is transferred upon the shoulders of everybody else via inflation. But if no bailout is allowed, then the offending bank goes bankrupt; its good assets are transferred to other banks, and devastation is localized only to the offending party. That's the way Free Market works, and its regulations are MUCH stricter then those of government regulators who actually allow fraud!

Also take a look at the cost of war, also made possible by fiat money!

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/us ... f_war.html

(Fiat = war) is the formula first derived by Rothschilds. It is a true one. None of the world wars would have been possible without fiat money fraud!

Thus Free Competition in Currencies, which necessarily kills fiat (which cannot exist without a government forced monopoly), ends most wars as well as welfare state, and brings to forefront Sound, 100% commodity based currency, which is the most stable, and the most honest monetary system known to man.

http://demonocracy.info/infographics/us ... _debt.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/eu ... greek.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/us ... _debt.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave
them the power to create money and control credit, and
with a flick of a pen they will create enough to buy it back."
-Sir Josiah Stamp, former President, Bank of England

Thus, Free Competition in Currencies
is a great protector of Liberty!

[LoveIsTruth]

Quantitative Easing Explained in 2.5 min



I could explain it in 1.8 seconds:

• "Quantitative Easing" is THEFT.

I could also explain it in 6.4 seconds:

• "Quantitative Easing" is legalized plunder via legalized and monopolized counterfeiting of currency.

[LoveIsTruth]

QE3 Rips Into Reality



Money must be something you CANNOT print, i.e. gold, silver or some other commodity that cannot be conjured out of nothing, and whose purchasing power cannot be stolen by government's printing press. Free Competition in Currencies is the best way to restore and maintain an honest currency. Money is too important to be left to government; just like food is too important to be left to government. Free Market will perfect the medium of exchange just like it perfects any other product via supply and demand, so that the most stable and the most honest monetary system will gain the major share of the market. Historically, absent government coercion, it has always been an 100% commodity based currency (like gold or silver, etc.), because 100% commodity based currency is the most stable and the most honest monetary system known to man.

[LoveIsTruth]

Gold & Silver Ep1: Mike Maloney -
Hidden Secrets of Money



Here are the details for you:
http://successcouncilmail.com/link.php? ... &L=368&F=H" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[LoveIsTruth]

What Will Trump Do About the Central-Bank Cartel?
Trump could end global banking tyranny
Thorsten Pollet | Mises.org - February 13, 2017

Of course, change for the better doesn’t come from politics. It comes from better ideas. For it is ideas that determine human action. Whatever these ideas are and wherever they come from: They make humans act. For this reason the great Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises (1881 – 1973) advocates the idea of the “sound money principle” –

“The sound-money principle has two aspects. It is affirmative in approving the market’s choice of a commonly used medium of exchange. It is negative in obstructing the government’s propensity to meddle with the currency system.”

Mises also explains convincingly the importance of the sound money principle for each and every one of us –

“It is impossible to grasp the meaning of the idea of sound money if one does not realize that it was devised as an instrument for the protection of civil liberties against despotic inroads on the part of governments. Ideologically it belongs in the same class with political constitutions and bills of right.”

Mises’s sound money principle calls for ending central banking once and for all and opening up a free market in money. Having brought to a halt political globalism for now, the new US administration has now also a once in a lifetime chance to make the world great again — simply by ending the state’s monopoly of money production.

If the US would move in that direction — ending legal tender laws and giving the freedom to the American people to use, say, gold, silver, or bitcoin as their preferred media of exchange — the rest of the world would most likely have to follow the example. That said, Mr. Trump could really make a real change, simply by embracing Mises’s sound money principle.

http://www.infowars.com/what-will-trump ... nk-cartel/

Full article here.