Jason wrote:Bella wrote:
Is your point that it must be outside of the of the LDS Religion? I would then ask Why? I would say testifying of the Restored Gospel is the best way to bring truth to this country.
Yes. It absolutely must be.....unless the complete government is destroyed or the leaders of the church call for combination of church and government.....at which point the complete government is already destroyed or there's about to be a war between the two.
Truth of what? The restored gospel? How is it the founders can establish a government based on righteous principles....all without the restored gospel? Is then the restored gospel a fundamental requirement? I don't think so. Then what must the message be if its not the restored gospel?
The reason the Lord was able to work through the Founding Fathers is that they were doing the best they could with all the truth that had been revealed up until that point. They believed in God and Christ. Now we have no excuse to ignore the additional truth of the Restored Gospel. That does not mean we can not work with others not of our Faith, but it does mean that we need to be holding up the whole Gospel as the standard.
The point of this thread....I believe....is to try and think through a course of action - What are the major hurdles? What can we then do about them?.....with the "political arena" qualifier. Obviously our founding fathers were inspired and guided and established this nation on righteous principles that pre-date the restored gospel. So obviously....preaching the restored gospel is not the solution for the question posed on this thread. Is it good? Of course. Is it helpful? Of course. Is it a requirement? History says no.
Well the scriptures say YES and so do the Prophets. We are shown story after story of the Gospel being preached as the means to saving civilization and effecting political change. When they did not repent they were destroyed. That to me is history, the history that was saved for us today that Lord wanted us to have.Is it a requirement? History says no.
If we have strayed from this.......What is the single most important "Political" issue/obstacle keeping us from returning to our roots?
From the scriptures we are told Repentance.
The whole premise that a political solution can be found which ignores the Gospel of Jesus Christ is totally fallacious. That is my point. Our constitution and founding of this country was directly related to the belief in God and Jesus Christ. You cannot separate the two. Other than that we are relying on the arm of flesh and not the Lord. Prophets have all called the world to repentance and to believe in God, why is that not a valid solution for today? What is so different about us from all the rest of the civilizations that have existed in the past?
I tried to give some practical suggestions from my point of view because I was asked. So I have attempted to answer the question. I am sorry that my answers are not what people want to hear, but they are what I believe the scriptures are trying to tell us.
I think I may get off this hamster wheel unless I am asked for any more imput.