Sandy Hook Opinions

[paulrobots]

When the Sandy Hook tragedy happened, I remember some conspiracy theories being floated pretty quickly in the aftermath. I did notice some inconcistencies on info being released and some seemingly weird reactions by some of the parents.

I didn't dwell on it, and had forgotten about it untill my wife brought it up today. She is not a conspiracy person at all, but had somehow gotten into a discussion at work and now was unconvinced of the narrative as told by the media. Needless to say I was surprised.

I hate to bring it up but was just very curious to know what some of the members of the FF thought.

[David13]

It's obvious to me that it was nothing like the media portrayed it.
I think it was meant to be some type of exercise to bring about some great gun control nonsense. However, it didn't much happen.
To the contrary, it shows how much armed citizens are necessary.
Look how they do it in Israeli schools.
dc

[paulrobots]

It's obvious to me that it was nothing like the media portrayed it.
I think it was meant to be some type of exercise to bring about some great gun control nonsense. However, it didn't much happen.
To the contrary, it shows how much armed citizens are necessary.
Look how they do it in Israeli schools.
dc

Thanks for your reply. I do remember how mad and frustrated obama was that he couldn't get new restrictions on guns passed. His administration said never let a crisis go to waste, but this seemed particularly callous.

[kittycat51]

I know a lot was laid into Robbie Parker one of the parents who has roots here in Utah in how he acted before going in front of the media. His name caught my attention because of where he was from, is where I have ancestral roots tied into the Parker name there as well.(I believe we are distant cousins) Anyway, for an LDS guy to be a so-called "actor" and claim his daughter was murdered and THEN go through a funeral where Elder Quentin Cook attended is just to much to be a lie. Here is a link to little Emilie's grave. She is buried by her grandfather.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 859&df=all&" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NOW I DO believe that things are not being told truthfully as too what really happened. But believe me, kids did die. As far as how Robbie acted, as LDS members our beliefs are strong in what comes "after", so although we are sad, we also have hope. I have had many deaths in my extended family over the past several years, most were a shock and unexpected. It was a time for mourning, but amidst that mourning was quit a bit of laughter; yes even hours after the deaths.

[freedomforall]

CT. COP on Sandy Hook Inconsistencies: "THINGS DON'T ADD UP"

Too many holes in the official account. Was the incident a Black Ops operation?

Also read this: http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2012/ ... 78978.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


One Year Later:

[sushi_chef]

"



Sandy Hook was a FEMA drill designed to promote the NWO agenda. (Gun control, enslavement)
How long is the public going to tolerate treason by their elected officials and media?
"
http://henrymakow.com/2015/11/nobody-di ... -hook.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
makow sandy hook https://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UT ... %20hook%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:-B

[paulrobots]

I know a lot was laid into Robbie Parker one of the parents who has roots here in Utah in how he acted before going in front of the media. His name caught my attention because of where he was from, is where I have ancestral roots tied into the Parker name there as well.(I believe we are distant cousins) Anyway, for an LDS guy to be a so-called "actor" and claim his daughter was murdered and THEN go through a funeral where Elder Quentin Cook attended is just to much to be a lie. Here is a link to little Emilie's grave. She is buried by her grandfather.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 859&df=all&" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NOW I DO believe that things are not being told truthfully as too what really happened. But believe me, kids did die. As far as how Robbie acted, as LDS members our beliefs are strong in what comes "after", so although we are sad, we also have hope. I have had many deaths in my extended family over the past several years, most were a shock and unexpected. It was a time for mourning, but amidst that mourning was quit a bit of laughter; yes even hours after the deaths.

Thanks, I had never heard there was a Utah connection. Very true about the emotions of people going through a loss.

Thanks everyone for the replies.

[paulrobots]

CT. COP on Sandy Hook Inconsistencies: "THINGS DON'T ADD UP"

Too many holes in the official account. Was the incident a Black Ops operation?

Also read this: http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2012/ ... 78978.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


One Year Later:

Thanks, I will check these out when I get a chance.

[kittycat51]

"



Sandy Hook was a FEMA drill designed to promote the NWO agenda. (Gun control, enslavement)
How long is the public going to tolerate treason by their elected officials and media?
"
http://henrymakow.com/2015/11/nobody-di ... -hook.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
makow sandy hook https://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UT ... %20hook%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:-B

Sushi, Your photo of "survivors of Sandy Hook" just doesn't cut it in my opinion; just someones great imagination at work.

Here are some local newspaper articles that I remember reading because it WAS talked about a lot here in Utah. WOW Robbie sure pulled one over on our Governor, An LDS Apostle, Robbie's former Bishop from Utah AND all of his family. (They must have ALL been "IN" on it as well; I wonder how big the payoff was?) ;)

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... tml?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... tml?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7656 ... s-dad.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[JohnnyL]

"



Sandy Hook was a FEMA drill designed to promote the NWO agenda. (Gun control, enslavement)
How long is the public going to tolerate treason by their elected officials and media?
"
http://henrymakow.com/2015/11/nobody-di ... -hook.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
makow sandy hook https://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UT ... %20hook%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:-B

Sushi, Your photo of "survivors of Sandy Hook" just doesn't cut it in my opinion; just someones great imagination at work.

Here are some local newspaper articles that I remember reading because it WAS talked about a lot here in Utah. WOW Robbie sure pulled one over on our Governor, An LDS Apostle, Robbie's former Bishop from Utah AND all of his family. (They must have ALL been "IN" on it as well; I wonder how big the payoff was?) ;)

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... tml?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... tml?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7656 ... s-dad.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The payoff was pretty big, with over four major charity accounts. I'll try to find how much the Parker family made ($1M+, and counting?). How much else, who knows.

There are all kinds of ways "the daughter situation" could have happened. The father could have been blackmailed or threatened; the daughter could have had an accident; the daughter could have died from other causes at the same time; the daughter could be living with a relative; they could have been brainwashed; the daughter could have been kidnapped and used as leverage; and other possibilities (interesting how the bit Emily Parker Fund art show is using a butterfly?).

If he did know the truth and lie, it's not the first time someone has pulled the wool over a leader's eyes. (I've known bishops, a stake counselor, and a stake president that were/ should have been excommunicated; two got found out and were, and others weren't found out.)

Is this family even real? Seriously, if this happened to my family or anyone I knew, there would be all kinds of people posting and mentioning it, and EVERYONE posts past pictures together with them. Seen it. Not only that, there would be lots of family pictures provided by the family (yet the best they could do was a photoshopped photo). This is all lacking in the Parker family's case.

However, this is hardly the point.

The real point is, SH didn't happen. And there is so much evidence, it's astounding any serious researcher could believe to the contrary.

[lundbaek]

A couple of rats that still smell:

The public has been denied access to the school’s security cameras which would shed light on whether or not Lanza was the only shooter or participant. Deliberate denial of video footage is typical of every other cover-up managed by the federal government—OKC and 9/11 in particular.

One of the children who was interviewed as he came out of the school said he saw the police with a guy handcuffed on the floor inside the school. That can only mean a couple of things: either Lanza didn’t kill himself; was subsequently taken down, and handcuffed, or there was another shooter inside to make sure Lanza got suicided, and he was taken down. If the person seen handcuffed on the floor was Lanza, that means he was killed afterwards by someone else who had custody of him.

Initial reports by police said that the shooter was found dead with two 9mm semi-auto pistols (a Glock and a Sig Sauer) and that the floor was “littered with 9mm shell casings.” The police told media that besides the two guns, they found an AR-15 .223 Bushmaster assault rifle in his car that was registered with his mother. Then after the first day, the story changes to the assault rifle being used in the school and the floor being “littered with .223 shell casings.”

[kittycat51]

"



Sandy Hook was a FEMA drill designed to promote the NWO agenda. (Gun control, enslavement)
How long is the public going to tolerate treason by their elected officials and media?
"
http://henrymakow.com/2015/11/nobody-di ... -hook.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
makow sandy hook https://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UT ... %20hook%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:-B

Sushi, Your photo of "survivors of Sandy Hook" just doesn't cut it in my opinion; just someones great imagination at work.

Here are some local newspaper articles that I remember reading because it WAS talked about a lot here in Utah. WOW Robbie sure pulled one over on our Governor, An LDS Apostle, Robbie's former Bishop from Utah AND all of his family. (They must have ALL been "IN" on it as well; I wonder how big the payoff was?) ;)

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... tml?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... tml?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7656 ... s-dad.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The payoff was pretty big, with over four major charity accounts. I'll try to find how much the Parker family made ($1M+, and counting?). How much else, who knows.

There are all kinds of ways "the daughter situation" could have happened. The father could have been blackmailed or threatened; the daughter could have had an accident; the daughter could have died from other causes at the same time; the daughter could be living with a relative; they could have been brainwashed; the daughter could have been kidnapped and used as leverage; and other possibilities (interesting how the bit Emily Parker Fund art show is using a butterfly?).

If he did know the truth and lie, it's not the first time someone has pulled the wool over a leader's eyes. (I've known bishops, a stake counselor, and a stake president that were/ should have been excommunicated; two got found out and were, and others weren't found out.)

Is this family even real? Seriously, if this happened to my family or anyone I knew, there would be all kinds of people posting and mentioning it, and EVERYONE posts past pictures together with them. Seen it. Not only that, there would be lots of family pictures provided by the family (yet the best they could do was a photoshopped photo). This is all lacking in the Parker family's case.

However, this is hardly the point.

The real point is, SH didn't happen. And there is so much evidence, it's astounding any serious researcher could believe to the contrary.

Johnny, "Is this family even real?" =)) Did you even read any of the local newspaper articles from where Emilie's family originated from? Look when it comes to conspiracy theories, I'm in there with the best of them believing many. This one? Yes and no. Yes because something fishy definitely happened. No, because I know Emilie did die. The ripple effect of all those claiming to know her, where they ALL PAID OFF? I find that hard to believe. You can't keep that many people quiet NEVER to make a peep. As much as I believe in "fake news" as the MSM claim it is, this is not one I fall head first in believing all that Alex Jones and the likes throw at you. (Yes I like Alex Jones)

[paulrobots]

"



Sandy Hook was a FEMA drill designed to promote the NWO agenda. (Gun control, enslavement)
How long is the public going to tolerate treason by their elected officials and media?
"
http://henrymakow.com/2015/11/nobody-di ... -hook.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
makow sandy hook https://search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UT ... %20hook%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:-B

Sushi, Your photo of "survivors of Sandy Hook" just doesn't cut it in my opinion; just someones great imagination at work.

Here are some local newspaper articles that I remember reading because it WAS talked about a lot here in Utah. WOW Robbie sure pulled one over on our Governor, An LDS Apostle, Robbie's former Bishop from Utah AND all of his family. (They must have ALL been "IN" on it as well; I wonder how big the payoff was?) ;)

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... tml?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8655 ... tml?pg=all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7656 ... s-dad.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The payoff was pretty big, with over four major charity accounts. I'll try to find how much the Parker family made ($1M+, and counting?). How much else, who knows.

There are all kinds of ways "the daughter situation" could have happened. The father could have been blackmailed or threatened; the daughter could have had an accident; the daughter could have died from other causes at the same time; the daughter could be living with a relative; they could have been brainwashed; the daughter could have been kidnapped and used as leverage; and other possibilities (interesting how the bit Emily Parker Fund art show is using a butterfly?).

If he did know the truth and lie, it's not the first time someone has pulled the wool over a leader's eyes. (I've known bishops, a stake counselor, and a stake president that were/ should have been excommunicated; two got found out and were, and others weren't found out.)

Is this family even real? Seriously, if this happened to my family or anyone I knew, there would be all kinds of people posting and mentioning it, and EVERYONE posts past pictures together with them. Seen it. Not only that, there would be lots of family pictures provided by the family (yet the best they could do was a photoshopped photo). This is all lacking in the Parker family's case.

However, this is hardly the point.

The real point is, SH didn't happen. And there is so much evidence, it's astounding any serious researcher could believe to the contrary.

Johnny, "Is this family even real?" =)) Did you even read any of the local newspaper articles from where Emilie's family originated from? Look when it comes to conspiracy theories, I'm in there with the best of them believing many. This one? Yes and no. Yes because something fishy definitely happened. No, because I know Emilie did die. The ripple effect of all those claiming to know her, where they ALL PAID OFF? I find that hard to believe. You can't keep that many people quiet NEVER to make a peep. As much as I believe in "fake news" as the MSM claim it is, this is not one I fall head first in believing all that Alex Jones and the likes throw at you. (Yes I like Alex Jones)

I appreciate hearing from someone with personal ties to the story, thank you.

Still, without seeing a body I could never say for certain that someone had died. I heard somewhere that all of the funerals were closed casket. My wife was even told that the parents themselves weren't allowed to see the bodies, though I know if it were me that would be completely unacceptable, so I really can't believe that.

Do you happen to know what took the family to Connecticut?

[JohnnyL]

The payoff was pretty big, with over four major charity accounts. I'll try to find how much the Parker family made ($1M+, and counting?). How much else, who knows.

There are all kinds of ways "the daughter situation" could have happened. The father could have been blackmailed or threatened; the daughter could have had an accident; the daughter could have died from other causes at the same time; the daughter could be living with a relative; they could have been brainwashed; the daughter could have been kidnapped and used as leverage; and other possibilities (interesting how the bit Emily Parker Fund art show is using a butterfly?).

If he did know the truth and lie, it's not the first time someone has pulled the wool over a leader's eyes. (I've known bishops, a stake counselor, and a stake president that were/ should have been excommunicated; two got found out and were, and others weren't found out.)

Is this family even real? Seriously, if this happened to my family or anyone I knew, there would be all kinds of people posting and mentioning it, and EVERYONE posts past pictures together with them. Seen it. Not only that, there would be lots of family pictures provided by the family (yet the best they could do was a photoshopped photo). This is all lacking in the Parker family's case.

However, this is hardly the point.

The real point is, SH didn't happen. And there is so much evidence, it's astounding any serious researcher could believe to the contrary.

Johnny, "Is this family even real?" =)) Did you even read any of the local newspaper articles from where Emilie's family originated from? Look when it comes to conspiracy theories, I'm in there with the best of them believing many. This one? Yes and no. Yes because something fishy definitely happened. No, because I know Emilie did die. The ripple effect of all those claiming to know her, where they ALL PAID OFF? I find that hard to believe. You can't keep that many people quiet NEVER to make a peep. As much as I believe in "fake news" as the MSM claim it is, this is not one I fall head first in believing all that Alex Jones and the likes throw at you. (Yes I like Alex Jones)

Most of the parents were paid off--you've seen the house buyoffs, right? And the charity funds? http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/05/01 ... r-exposed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (half-way down)

Any non-photoshopped family photobooks?

The missing children went somewhere for a while. How do you know Emilie died? Or any of the children?

[Spider]

My son knew the Parker family when he served on his mission in Newtown a short few years before the shooting. The family exists.

[nvr]

I think a lot of people are wondering this: why didn't any of the parents choose to see their children before burial - it was closed caskets for all of them and they did not personally identify. If it was me, you can bet I wouldn't leave the scene without seeing my child, in person.

[paulrobots]

I think a lot of people are wondering this: why didn't any of the parents choose to see their children before burial - it was closed caskets for all of them and they did not personally identify. If it was me, you can bet I wouldn't leave the scene without seeing my child, in person.

Can anyone confirm this? If my kid had been killed and they told me I couldn't see for myself and say my goodbyes.......well, lets just say, they couldn't have stopped me.

[nvr]

http://patch.com/connecticut/newtown/am ... f-injuries

Relatives identified their loved ones not in person but by photos taken of the victims’ faces, Carver said.
“We did not bring the bodies and families into contact, we took pictures of them, of their facial features,” he said. “It’s easier on the families when you do that. There is a time and place for up close and personal in the grieving process but to accomplish this we felt it would be best to do it this way.”

In this press conference quoted above, he continued on to say: "You can control a situation depending on the photographer, and I have very good photographers. Uh, but uh", from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVLCSqoZYqY
Apparently Noah Pozner had an open casket, though there's a separate story that calls into question his death certificate (signs of cut and paste)

[freedomforall]

If people really want to know what can go on in government, they will discover that the gov. will allow persons to be killed so their agenda will come across as real.
We've had so many false flags that everyone should be awake to them by know.

Read "None Dare Call It Conspiracy" http://www.kamron.com/Downloads/none%20 ... piracy.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FDR's statement: "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

Pearl Harbor was a set up.
The Vietnam conflict was a setup.
Some say 911 was an inside job.
Some school shootings are false flag operations to push a gun control agenda. Once guns are taken away our freedom is lost. President Benson said that once freedom is lost, only blood, human blood can bring it back.

Here is a website that only you can determine what is right or wrong about the official story.

http://www.sandyhookfacts.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Alaris]

A year ago I informed my wife of the Sandy Hook conspiracy theories and was careful not to try to sway her opinion largely because mine was not made up though I've always leaned that there was some layer of conspiracy. My wife was incredulous at it being a consoiracy ...at first.

So then we watched some of the unedited interviews with parents who lost children. After watching a handful of those interviews she and I are convinced the parents were actors.....bad, bad, bad actors. It's not just the lack of emotion. It's like watching acting for a YouTube sci fi fan movie only way, way worse. What does that mean?

I don't know for sure but I do know evil power brokers are conspiring to take away our freedoms as an extension of the war in heaven which is the war for agency and freedom vs compulsion. I wouldn't put it past these devil worshipping scumbags to kill children or even steal them for other evil purposes.

[JohnnyL]

My son knew the Parker family when he served on his mission in Newtown a short few years before the shooting. The family exists.

He might have, but the Parker family moved there 8 months before it happened... They wouldn't have been there a short few years before. ;)

[ladyliberty]

I was informed of this "conspiracy" by someone who knows the Parkers in their new area and suspected something was very wrong with their story. It seems Alison Parker couldn't remember what hospital Robbie worked at, one family photos had a "mom" who resembled Alison, his resume stated he lived in Forest Park, MT. There is no such place. Alison's sister is some how connected to Obama in Chicago where she lives and works as a lawyer and was in a photo with him on Facebook. I as remember, Alison was from Chicago area from my research. A school safety inspector by the name of Wolfgang Halbig hired a lawyer to help him investigate S.H. when things didn't add up for him too. His videos are on You tube. He does not post anymore as he and his family were threated this year.
Also check out David Wheeler on You tube who played two roles and was on film as an FBI agent at S.H. Obama also flew some of the parents around the country on air force One to lobby against the guns.

[nvr]

My son knew the Parker family when he served on his mission in Newtown a short few years before the shooting. The family exists.

JohnnyL is right - they were only there for 8 months before the event: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/16/us/connec ... ie-parker/

Spider - did your son know this family, or maybe it was another Parker family? I lived in Middletown from '08 to mid -'12. Did he ever serve there? What's the last name?

[Todd]

My son knew the Parker family when he served on his mission in Newtown a short few years before the shooting. The family exists.

I'm not convinced Sandy Hook was a conspiracy, but making statements about how your son knew the Parkers in Newtown "years" before the shooting only muddies the water more and gives the conspiracy theorists more ammo.

Please explain yourself.

[tjtax06]

There may have been a cover up about who was involved in the shooting but I don't know how people can think children were not killed at Sandy Hook.

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/12/09 ... eyre-scum/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;