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by gclayjr
Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:45 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, In answer to your question, I would describe myself as a conservative. I am pleasantly surprised. First that someone who is conservative is inside the bureaucracy of environmental enforcement, and that my aged 65 year old mind that somehow thought that you had supported some sort of Demo...
by gclayjr
Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:24 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, Knowing someone who knows someone who claims to know something, does not constitute reasonable evidence, let alone proof. If you think it does, be my guest. Personally I think it qualifies as what the scriptures would call "every wind of doctrine". Why do you think God had 11 witnesses t...
by gclayjr
Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:08 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, And I would conclude that you, being a patriotic American, would also be opposed to such taxes. After all, was it not the arbitrary imposition of taxes that ultimately led to the revolutionary war? Of course, I am surprised that you even have to ask. I am so obviously conservative with l...
by gclayjr
Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:52 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood,

Then can I conclude that you do not support the idea of raising massive taxes on CO2, fossil fuels, and otherwise penalizing people and industry because of their contributions to climate change?

Regards,

George Clay
by gclayjr
Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:23 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, I want to thank you. So when it comes to the shape of the earth I am not so proud and puffed up as to believe I have all of the answers. There certainly exists evidence that the earth is a sphere, but this is not my evidence. This is evidence that is presented to me by others. There is a...
by gclayjr
Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:03 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, am very grateful for my university education, where I studied environmental science, because it taught me to question and examine everything, irrespective of the perceived wisdom or the acknowledged concensus. Do you have as many doubts about "man made" Global warming as you do about a s...
by gclayjr
Tue Apr 25, 2017 12:59 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: NASA in Hebrew means, GREATLY DECEIVE or BEGUILE
Replies: 47
Views: 907

Re: NASA in Hebrew means, GREATLY DECEIVE or BEGUILE

IWriteStuff, 'alt-right' or 'alternative right' is a name currently embraced by some white supremacists and white nationalists to refer to themselves and their ideology, which emphasizes preserving and protecting the white race in the United States in addition to, or over, other traditional conserva...
by gclayjr
Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:54 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: NASA in Hebrew means, GREATLY DECEIVE or BEGUILE
Replies: 47
Views: 907

Re: NASA in Hebrew means, GREATLY DECEIVE or BEGUILE

iWriteStuff As per the Hebrew/Jew thing I mentioned - I am sensitive to claims of Jewish deception because it has become a prevalent right wing attack that stinks of bigotry. When people say things like "haha the Jews named this psy-op mission "NASA" as a clever means of stating their intent to dece...
by gclayjr
Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:02 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, There are lying Mormon politicians, Mormon porn actors, Mormon fraudsters (Utah is the fraud capital of the US).... and so on. Why on earth would the religion of an astronaut make any difference to anything? Believe the conventional wisdom regarding the earth if you like, but it is very ...
by gclayjr
Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:01 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

I am a Mormon. I believe that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the one and only True Church. I believe that Joseph Smith Saw God the Father and his son Jesus Christ and through them he restored the True Church. I believe the Book of Mormon to be the True word of God. I also believe...
by gclayjr
Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:01 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

braingrunt,
I hope and suspect your prediction is wrong. However, supposing your prediction is true: no matter how many convert baptisms we would gain, I don't give a darn. Truth should be what we are after, not amazing church growth reports.
Top
Yes!

Regards,

George Clay
by gclayjr
Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:50 am
Forum: Last Days / Signs of the Times
Topic: Julie Rowe: Soothsayer or False Prophet?
Replies: 26
Views: 861

Re: Julie Rowe a False Prophet? Yes!

Z2100, JR has a "mental illness" because of the false dreams she has received from Satan, which is making her apostate (falling away- It's in the scriptures). There was another post on this thread or another that said that if we are given revelation from the Lord, we must keep it private and not sha...
by gclayjr
Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:55 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Finrock,

Again sorry. I always thought that PTSD was a new name for what used to be called "Shell Shock" or "combat fatigue". I guess that childhood sexual abuse/rape can be both stressful and traumatic.

Regards,

George Clay
by gclayjr
Mon Apr 24, 2017 3:11 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Finrock, I have PTSD and there have been times when my PTSD has been triggered and when it gets triggered, I am hyper vigilant and wary of any and all thing Sorry about the PTSD. I didn't know you served in the military. Which branch did you serve in? In which war were you deployed? Semper FI George...
by gclayjr
Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:25 pm
Forum: Political/Economic Secret Combinations
Topic: Cry for Venezuela
Replies: 31
Views: 2435

Re: Cry for Venezuela

Silver, And people here mock at the idea of owning precious metals as a financial reserve. I haven't been following all of your precious metal/Silver posts, so I don't know who is mocking you or for what reason. I would say however, that I wouldn't put all of my eggs into that basket. I'm not sure i...
by gclayjr
Sun Apr 23, 2017 4:01 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: NASA in Hebrew means, GREATLY DECEIVE or BEGUILE
Replies: 47
Views: 907

Re: NASA in Hebrew means, GREATLY DECEIVE or BEGUILE

KitKat,

Nova (no va) in Spanish means it doesn't go! That is one reason GM had problems selling the Chevy Nova in Mexico. So does that mean that GM was secretly telling the world that a Chevy II Nova doesn't work?

Regards,

George Clay
by gclayjr
Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:55 pm
Forum: Political/Economic Secret Combinations
Topic: Cry for Venezuela
Replies: 31
Views: 2435

Re: Cry for Venezuela

Silver, Amen! I follow Venezuela pretty closely, not only because it is a Socialist horror story in our own backyard that just goes on, and on, but because I used to work in Venezuela in the early to mid 80s. It makes it kind of personal. I once noted on this board, that I could not find anything on...
by gclayjr
Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:47 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

KitKat, George Clay, Am I understanding this is the "la-la land conspiracy ridiculousness" you speak of? Were his eyes just not seeing the curve? What of the water leaks he had as he got up that high? Popular Science 1931: https://imgur.com/gallery/miXLb FYI. This was before NASA (aka. to beguile or...
by gclayjr
Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:24 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

braingrunt, You are right! I guess I have been blind sided in finding out how many people believe this stuff. I find it hard to believe4 that anybody in 2017 could actually believe this when there is so overwhelming evidence of its falsity. I decided to take a small amount of time to perform some ba...
by gclayjr
Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:44 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, Kitkat, Oh my gosh, I just figured out that I must also be part of the great conspiracy needed to hide the absolute scientific fact that the earth is a sphere that circles around a sun that is 93 million miles away!! You see I am an amateur radio operator. I hold a general class license....
by gclayjr
Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:41 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, It's reasoning like that that gives the "globe-earthers" such a bad reputation in flat earth circles. There is such a thing as perspective, which ensures that we can't see infinitely. When you see Saturn through your telescope you're actually seeing only a few centimeters, ie the distanc...
by gclayjr
Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:54 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, The most famous picture is of the Earth-rise seen from the Moon. This was taken from the surface of the Moon during the Apollo 11 mission. The problem is, that according to some sources it appears to be photo-shopped I am a little hazy on this. Which version of Photo-Shop were they using...
by gclayjr
Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:45 am
Forum: News
Topic: Venezuela: End Stage Socialism
Replies: 40
Views: 2357

Re: Venezuela: End Stage Socialism

BeNotDeceived, When the illusion of floating currencies does collapse, replacing them with something based on real value may become necessary to instill confidence. I get it now, you are suggesting what otta happen. I haven't thought it through, but I'm sure it's better than what is today. Regards, ...
by gclayjr
Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:00 am
Forum: News
Topic: Venezuela: End Stage Socialism
Replies: 40
Views: 2357

Re: Venezuela: End Stage Socialism

BeNotDeceived, Currency backed by energy, who woulda thunk. :-o I'm not sure if I suffer from Internet Asrbergers or not. Are you just being silly, or did you think that my explanation of Breton Woods actually had anything to do with energy? It merely was an agreement that all international business...
by gclayjr
Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:43 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?
Replies: 611
Views: 15270

Re: The Earth is Not a Globe!?! Is God literal, water above and below the firmament?

Robin Hood, The earth is optically flat. In other words it appears to be flat as far as we can see. I have never seen the curvature of the earth, nor have I met anyone who has. Ever been in an airplane? Maybe you should fly over and pay a visit to the Colonies and get to see things from the air. May...
by gclayjr
Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:27 pm
Forum: Principles of Liberty
Topic: WHY?
Replies: 33
Views: 1169

Re: WHY?

Elizabeth, You might ask why this world is a TELESTIAL world. However, If there were no spiders we would be overrun with flies and other insects. If there were no flies the garbage wouldn't decay as well, and frogs and toads wouldn't have anything to eat. and if there were no snakes, then there woul...
by gclayjr
Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:37 am
Forum: News
Topic: Is the World Getting Worse?
Replies: 15
Views: 676

Re: Is the World Getting Worse?

mho, z100 Yes, I agree. It's a huge blessing living in this time in world history. But wickedness is getting worse, and God won't put-up with it. I guess the bottom line is this duality. It is easy... especially when spending time posting and pondering on this or other boards, to get caught up in th...
by gclayjr
Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:17 am
Forum: News
Topic: Venezuela: End Stage Socialism
Replies: 40
Views: 2357

Re: Venezuela: End Stage Socialism

Because of the carnage of Venezuela, I don't think most people are aware of just how much Socialist wreckage both Brasil and Argentina are coping with.

Regards,

George Clay
by gclayjr
Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:54 am
Forum: Emergency Preparedness & Self-sufficiency
Topic: Prepping Post-Marmalade
Replies: 2
Views: 233

Re: Prepping Post-Marmalade

Silver, While I generally agree with your point I do wonder I don’t believe it is as pervasive as certain people may think, but there is a notion among some in the liberty movement that with Donald Trump in the White House the need for crisis preparedness has subsided. Because preppers and survivali...
by gclayjr
Wed Apr 05, 2017 3:11 pm
Forum: News
Topic: Venezuela: End Stage Socialism
Replies: 40
Views: 2357

Re: Venezuela: End Stage Socialism

Silver,

mas o menos

durante los 80's fui trbajando por Ascensores Otis en muchos de los paises en America Latino, incluyendo Venezuela


Regards,

George Clay

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