Search found 2056 matches

Go to advanced search

by gclayjr
Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:35 am
Forum: Spiritual/Religious Secret Combinations
Topic: My Experience with Denver Snuffer
Replies: 264
Views: 24592

Re: My Experience with Denver Snuffer

pjbrownie, I guess, I should have read your post more carefully. I would say the reason that they worked outside of the hierarchy was that the "organized" church of those times had fully gone astray. Are you positing that the LDS church has fully gone astray, and the Lord needs to call prophets from...
by gclayjr
Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:03 am
Forum: Spiritual/Religious Secret Combinations
Topic: My Experience with Denver Snuffer
Replies: 264
Views: 24592

Re: My Experience with Denver Snuffer

pjbrownie, http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Priesthood_in_Biblical_Times ATRIARCHAL PRIESTHOOD AND MELCHIZEDEK. From Adam to Jacob, the main office of God's priesthood was that of patriarch. Adam, Enoch, Noah, and Abraham administered the Lord's work, established covenants between God and the faithful, ...
by gclayjr
Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:39 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

BeNotDeceived,
au·gust
[ôˈɡəst]
ADJECTIVE

respected and impressive:
"she was in august company"
synonyms: distinguished · respected · eminent · venerable · [more]
Regards,

George Clay
by gclayjr
Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:54 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

BeNotDeceived,
Did you realize that August 21, 2017 (the day of the Adam ondi Ahman eclipse) is also President Thomas S. Monson’s 90th birthday?
Gee. I never realized that I shared a birthday with such an A-U-G-U-S-T man.

Regards,

George Clay
by gclayjr
Sun Jun 25, 2017 5:16 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

Silver Pie, George Clay, I am wondering how flat earthers explain away those who worked on the space station in space (and other astronauts that have been out there, orbiting earth). Surely, those people who orbit and who work in space can see that the earth is a globe. Flat earthers, by their very ...
by gclayjr
Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:38 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

Sandman45, Questioning the shadow the moon gives or where you can see the eclipse should make us question... give how large the moon is supposed to be and the sun etc. While one could get into a debate regarding conflicting claims about the physics behind the size of the moon's shadow, the challenge...
by gclayjr
Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:33 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.
Replies: 97
Views: 1984

Re: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.

marc, My sister, a licensed nurse practitioner, with her husband in their later years, adopted a girl that was in foster care, who was the daughter of a single woman with serious crack and other drug problems. This girl has been extremely difficult, manipulative, and has done much to create tension ...
by gclayjr
Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:42 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.
Replies: 97
Views: 1984

Re: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.

Captainfearnot said, It's certainly useful to learn the difference between a well reasoned argument and a cognitively manipulative one, but as we've been over already in this thread, it's not the be-all end-all. I graduated from college long before "Critical thinking" became in vogue. While I believ...
by gclayjr
Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:31 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.
Replies: 97
Views: 1984

Re: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.

Finrock The idea that we show an increase of love afterwards, presupposes that love has been shown prior to the direct reproving. Meaning, there must have been a history and a relationship established prior to the reproving that demonstrated to the individual reproved that the person loves them and ...
by gclayjr
Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:28 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

Robin Hood, OK George, as you've thrown down the gauntlet, you now have no choice other than to follow through. You will have to send me the plane ticket so I can visit you, celebrate your birthday, and watch the eclipse. It's the very least you can do in the circumstances. I have my passport at the...
by gclayjr
Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:10 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.
Replies: 97
Views: 1984

Re: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.

brienox, I will be your foil. Alma...Zeezrom..Korihor.. Ad Hominem ? Alma...Zeezrom ALma 11:23-25 Now Amulek said: O thou child of hell, why tempt ye me? Knowest thou that the righteous yieldeth to no such temptations? 24 Believest thou that there is no God? I say unto you, Nay, thou knowest that th...
by gclayjr
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:09 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

Sandman45, Did you actually waste your time watching these videos before asking me to waste my limited time watching them? or did you just link into a couple of videos and didn't even look at them with childlike faith that your flat earth heroes, actually had something to say about this? Can you giv...
by gclayjr
Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:37 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.
Replies: 97
Views: 1984

Re: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.

captainfearnot, I agree completely with your response. Maybe that is a problem will all of these fallacies..they are not always fallacies, and sometimes to one who wants to deny relationships, a rhetorical out. Slippery slope is really just an appeal to probability. The fallacy is in replacing uncer...
by gclayjr
Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:00 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: How does the Holy Ghost tell you the one you love is real?
Replies: 42
Views: 897

Re: How does the Holy Ghost tell you the one you love is real?

Sirocco, gclayjr wrote: ↑ Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:44 pm I have been married for over 40 years. Many of them pretty bumpy. One thing I have learned is that Love is something you decide to do, not simply something you feel... and you can decide to love just about anybody. Regards, George Clay I considered ...
by gclayjr
Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:41 am
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.
Replies: 97
Views: 1984

Re: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.

Alaris, There are two critically important and almost equally important goals that are often at odds in these forums and need not be: 1. Learning truth 2. Loving others Both are essential to the plan of salvation and the devil usually attacks us from both angles. Despite it all it is not that diffic...
by gclayjr
Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:53 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: The State of Delaware Legalizes Abortion through all Nine Months of pregnancy
Replies: 14
Views: 443

Re: The State of Delaware Legalizes Abortion through all Nine Months of pregnancy

Gosnell, -> Philadelphia, Now Delaware. I guess there is plenty of evil near me. Actually, there was a Planned Parenthood office that opened up in the middle of nowhere about 2 miles from my house. However, after a short time it became vacant, and it has been vacant for the past several years. Regar...
by gclayjr
Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:44 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: How does the Holy Ghost tell you the one you love is real?
Replies: 42
Views: 897

Re: How does the Holy Ghost tell you the one you love is real?

I have been married for over 40 years. Many of them pretty bumpy. One thing I have learned is that Love is something you decide to do, not simply something you feel... and you can decide to love just about anybody.

Regards,

George Clay
by gclayjr
Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:18 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.
Replies: 97
Views: 1984

Re: Critical Thinking, logical fallacies and other manipulative techniques.

Brienox, My background was applied mathematics (Applied statistics), engineering, and software development. I mostly worked with other engineers with similar backgrounds. I would say that the belief in God, by my co-workers was at least as high, if not higher, than that of the general population, fo...
by gclayjr
Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:19 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

harakim, A good nights sleep, even brings even bigger problems of the video to mind. For us spherical earthers who believes that the earth and moon revolve around a sun that is 93 million miles away, and a moon that revolves around the earth at 250 thousand miles, and an earth that rotates on its ax...
by gclayjr
Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:11 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

harakim, I would have to draw some diagrams and do some math to spell it out algorithmically, which I don't have time for. What's fundamentally wrong with the video that was posted? (Other than the Occam's Razor aspect of it) I have explained this above. Watch the video, not as something trying to d...
by gclayjr
Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:57 pm
Forum: Emergency Preparedness & Self-sufficiency
Topic: Which do you prefer, Brazil, Argentina or Australia?
Replies: 7
Views: 326

Re: Which do you prefer, Brazil, Argentina or Australia?

Well I don't know about that Yellowstone super volcano thing. But I have worked in Brazil, Argentina, and New Zealand. I fell in love with New Zealand. If I ever had to leave the U.S.A., please send me to new Zealand!. If Australia is even close to as good as New Zealand, I would definitely prefer A...
by gclayjr
Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:34 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

Robin Hood, I suppose what impresses me with some flat earthers, such as Eric Doubray, is that they are prepared to question the perceived wisdom. I have an appreciation for contrarian out of the box thinking too. We need people to question accepted wisdom. But arguing just to argue makes you much m...
by gclayjr
Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:17 pm
Forum: Emergency Preparedness & Self-sufficiency
Topic: Best vegetable seeds to have for next Great Depression?
Replies: 19
Views: 568

Re: Best vegetable seeds to have for next Great Depression?

konigking, I guess it depends upon your situation, and what the emergency is. First, I plan on focusing on that which does not store well. Greens, tomatoes, etc. because I would have plenty of canned goods, dried grains etc. Most storage focuses on basics. Even with canned goods, I would expect that...
by gclayjr
Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:34 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

Robin Hood, They claim that observable phenomena such as an eclipse can be explained on a flat earth model and that you and I wouldn't associate an eclipse with a spherical earth if we hadn't been indoctrinated, practically from birth, regarding the shape of the planet. In my view, they have a point...
by gclayjr
Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:28 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

Robin Hood, Actually, if I understand correctly, spherical earthers, have proven way beyond any shadow of a doubt that the earth is spherical. The problem for flat earthers, which you have agreed with yourself, is that do to the possibility of a massive conspiracy, everything could be faked. So the ...
by gclayjr
Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:56 am
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

h_p, Thank you for that Video. I guess this shows how to dig delusional holes, when everybody is given their own personal CGI. It is interesting that just as the old analogy of how when I point the accusing finger at you, there are always 3 fingers pointing back at me. In the same way, as they make ...
by gclayjr
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:07 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

Harakim,

I have a degree in a field of applied mathematics, so I can probably follow the math also.

Regards,

George Clay
by gclayjr
Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:00 pm
Forum: Gospel Discussions
Topic: Polarizing Question
Replies: 166
Views: 5154

Re: Polarizing Question

brianj, Are we not taught that children who die will have the opportunity to be raised to adulthood during the Millennium? Surely they will be baptized as they reach the age of accountability during that wonderful time on Earth. If baptism and other ordinances are required for salvation, they will e...
by gclayjr
Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:37 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to happen?
Replies: 57
Views: 1375

Re: My birthday is Aug 21, Flat Earthers.. How do you explain Spherical earthers ability to Predict what is going to hap

harakim I have refuted all three of these points. If you transform the spherical coordinates of a spherical earth to cartesian coordinates of a flat earth, the formulas work out the same. I still don't believe in flat earth, but the arguments against are still disappointing. I have devised an experi...
by gclayjr
Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:15 pm
Forum: General Discussions
Topic: 5 Reasons to Avoid Russian Women
Replies: 79
Views: 2214

Re: 5 Reasons to Avoid Russian Women

Fiannan, I hope you are right. There is a young man in our ward who just finished a mission to Russia, and last week married a Russian Woman. haven't seen her yet . However, I can tell you that according to his family, Russia is not the Putinesque wonderful place you believe it to be. Crime and gang...

Go to advanced search